Are you ready for another Trump Presidency? - Page 5

lobosrul5 · 9th September 2023, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Yes, they said this the first time around too.

But seems that for the most part, folks in govt. prefer to follow the law and the Constitution, not the desperate needs of a jackass.

Barr, Pence, Bolton, like literally everyone turned on Trump. They cared more about their oath to the nation.

Because they aren't total Trump sycophants. I guess the only other hope is the crazies are denied confirmation by the Senate. His next vp will likely be Kari Lake or similar.

W.D.Clinger · 9th September 2023, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Donal

Trump slurs and butchers words plenty. especially towards the end of his klan rallies.

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Got a video to prove that?

Multiple videos here show Trump mispronouncing Tanzania ("Tanzaynia"), Namibia ("Nambia"), diversity ("diversary"), Barcelona ("Bar-th-elona"), Puerto Rico ("Poooooerto Rico"), Ulysses S Grant, United States ("United Shtatesh"), enormous (or anonymous? He said "Anomous").

He has also mispronounced fatalities ("fatilities"), doctors ("doxxers"), and Yosemite ("Yo-Semite").

He butchers words in writing as well: "unpresidented", "smocking gun", "Scott free", counsel (which he regularly misspells, in multiple ways including "councel"), role (which he misspells as "roll"), lose (which he misspells as "loose"), honored (which he tweeted as "honered"), heal ("heel"). And who could forget "covfefe"?

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

Biden has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you have been a stutterer since childhood.

To engage in a bit of whataboutism: Trump too has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you've been stupid since childhood.

Lurch · 9th September 2023, 10:25 AM

Oh, FFS!

Let's assume it does indeed come down to B vs T. If that's the choice, then even in the extreme an imbecilic good man is better than a genius psychopath.

Because the good man will have good people in his Administration. The psychopath will demand none better than bootlickers.

Those who disparage Biden would seem reveal an affinity for the unitary Executive, where it's all about one man at the top. A functioning Government is far more a team.

Biden = team.

Trump = ME!

Dave Rogers · 9th September 2023, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

I think you are engaging in wishful thinking. IMO those who will likely vote for President Trump in 2024 are:

The hardcore MAGA supporters
People who would vote always for the Republican Presidential candidate regardless of who they are and who they are running against - there may be considerable overlap with MAGA supporters but there are also dyed in the wool GOP supporters who cannot vote for anyone other than a Republican
The woefully underinformed who will simply vote on name recognition - they recognise Trump from the Apprentice and right wing media outlets, Biden less so
Contrarians and pizza cutters (all edge and no point)

Or, as The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin had it:

Quote:

Reggie: You realise the sort of people you're going to attract, don't you Jimmy? Thugs, bully-boys, psychopaths, sacked policemen, security guards, sacked security guards, racialists, Paki-bashers, queer-bashers, Chink-bashers, basher-bashers, anybody-bashers, Rear Admirals, queer Admirals, Vice-Admirals, fascists, neo-fascists, crypto-fascists, loyalists, neo- loyalists, crypto-loyalists.

Jimmy: Do you really think so? I thought support might be difficult.

Dave

Stacyhs · 9th September 2023, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by W.D.Clinger

Multiple videos here show Trump mispronouncing Tanzania ("Tanzaynia"), Namibia ("Nambia"), diversity ("diversary"), Barcelona ("Bar-th-elona"), Puerto Rico ("Poooooerto Rico"), Ulysses S Grant, United States ("United Shtatesh"), enormous (or anonymous? He said "Anomous").

He has also mispronounced fatalities ("fatilities"), doctors ("doxxers"), and Yosemite ("Yo-Semite").

He butchers words in writing as well: "unpresidented", "smocking gun", "Scott free", counsel (which he regularly misspells, in multiple ways including "councel"), role (which he misspells as "roll"), lose (which he misspells as "loose"), honored (which he tweeted as "honered"), heal ("heel"). And who could forget "covfefe"?

To engage in a bit of whataboutism: Trump too has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you've been stupid since childhood.

Being a bit nit-picky here, but in Spain itself, Barcelona is pronounced Bar-the-lona although I doubt Trump knew that. I doubt he even knows where it is.

Hercules56 · 9th September 2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Lurch

Oh, FFS!

Let's assume it does indeed come down to B vs T. If that's the choice, then even in the extreme an imbecilic good man is better than a genius psychopath.

Because the good man will have good people in his Administration. The psychopath will demand none better than bootlickers.

Those who disparage Biden would seem reveal an affinity for the unitary Executive, where it's all about one man at the top. A functioning Government is far more a team.

Biden = team.

Trump = ME!

Biden has been a good President. He will be a good President again. Its getting him across the finish line that I am concerned about. But lets see where we are in January.

johnny karate · 9th September 2023, 01:17 PM

Reminds me of this thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=362526

Hercules56 · 9th September 2023, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

Reminds me of this thread:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=362526

My prediction was right, Dems lost the House.

johnny karate · 9th September 2023, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

My prediction was right, Dems lost the House.

Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t.

Hercules56 · 9th September 2023, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t.

Before 2022 the Dems controlled the House. After 2022 they no longer had control.

So I was part right, as I stated in the thread that the Dems may lose big or lose little but it still would be a net loss.

johnny karate · 9th September 2023, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Before 2022 the Dems controlled the House. After 2022 they no longer had control.

So I was part right, as I stated in the thread that the Dems may lose big or lose little but it still would be a net loss.

A net loss would mean the Republicans overall had more victories than the Democrats. They didn’t. They won the House by a slim majority and lost ground everywhere else. The House elections weren’t the totality of the midterms.

Feel free to take it to the other thread and defend your nonsensical position there.

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Hercules56 · 9th September 2023, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t.

Dems had full control of Congress in 2022. In 2023, they did not, hence Biden's agenda was fully put on hold.

That's a loss.

johnny karate · 9th September 2023, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Dems had full control of Congress in 2022. In 2023, they did not, hence Biden's agenda was fully put on hold.

That's a loss.

What part of Biden’s agenda has been put on hold? Please be specific. The one major legislative showdown between Democrats and Republicans since the midterms was about the debt ceiling. How’d that work out?

Hercules56 · 9th September 2023, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by johnny karate

What part of Biden’s agenda has been put on hold? Please be specific. The one major legislative showdown between Democrats and Republicans since the midterms was about the debt ceiling. How’d that work out?

You're joking, right?

dann · 10th September 2023, 12:52 AM

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It may have come as a surprise to Bunker Boy that the radicalized minority who show up to worship him at his rallies aren't representative of ordinary Iowans or ordinary Americans in general.

Gulliver Foyle · 10th September 2023, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

This was what I was about to say. Why are people assuming he plans to participate?

For the first presidential debate they should just empty chair him. And every so often after President Biden explains how he's helping Ameicans, the host could turn to the chair and say "And what would you do here Mr. T****? Oh, sorry about that, I forgot for a moment that Mr. T**** was too cowardly to turn up tonight."

Do that two or three times over 90 minutes would ensure a blazing hissy fit of incoherence from T****y in the next debate.

Gulliver Foyle · 10th September 2023, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Beerina

The only good thing I can say about Trump* is he was fough to a standstill on most politicies, and do nothing governments tend to be better than do something from a libertarian point of view.

* Not technically true. He resisted national lockdowns in favor of letting states do it. Don't grant the executive emergency powers is probably the single greatest lesson of history. Of course that may have been an accidental side effect while trying to avoid piling on an emergency he was trying to undersell, rather than a principled stancchaha hahahaha principled stance.

That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done.

johnny karate · 10th September 2023, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

You're joking, right?

No, I’m not joking. I want you to tell me how Republicans, who according to you won the midterms, have leveraged that victory to impede Biden’s agenda.

Please be specific and let’s take it to the appropriate thread.

PitPat · 10th September 2023, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle

That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done.

Another good question. Third parties have an effect, remember Ross Perot? HA, just kidding, nobody does, but many remember Stockdale. Or Ralph Nader.

All it takes for some traction towards the end that may skew things one way or another.

Donal · 10th September 2023, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle

That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done.

So a few planes fall out of the sky or all the meat in the country is contaminated. That's not a big deal.

Gulliver Foyle · 12th September 2023, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Donal

So a few planes fall out of the sky or all the meat in the country is contaminated. That's not a big deal.

And everybody who's not in the top 5% of wealth holders and who's not WASP suddenly finds them a slave, it's the American dream.

dudalb · 13th September 2023, 02:13 PM

Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected.
We could have Red Dawn for real.

Hercules56 · 13th September 2023, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected.
We could have Red Dawn for real.

What did he say?

Resume · 13th September 2023, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

What did he say?

Maybe this:

Quote:

“It’s all happening, even worse than anyone projected,” Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social just after midnight Wednesday.

“President Vladimir Putin of Russia is using Crooked Joe Biden’s illegal Banana Republic style treatment of his Political Opponent, who is beating him badly in the Polls, to condemn America and all of the good things it once stood for,” Trump continued. “The whole World is watching as the USA is being torn apart by dreams of Election Interference!”

The former president’s comments come a day after Putin claimed the prosecution of Trump reveals the “rottenness” of the political system in the United States. The Russian president also backed Trump’s claims that the charges were political.

Stacyhs · 13th September 2023, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Resume

Maybe this:

Trump is insane.

TragicMonkey · 13th September 2023, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Trump is insane.

Lots of People randomly Capitalize words!

Brainster · 13th September 2023, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected.
We could have Red Dawn for real.

Wolverines!

Darat · 14th September 2023, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Lots of People randomly Capitalize words!

It's easy to forget that he only started his random capitalization of words after he'd been criticised for some typos in tweets.

TragicMonkey · 14th September 2023, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

It's easy to forget that he only started his random capitalization of words after he'd been criticised for some typos in tweets.

According to the dictionary "covfefe" can be capitalized but doesn't have to be.

dann · 14th September 2023, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Lots of People randomly Capitalize words!

It doesn't appear to be entirely random. He seems to favor capitalized nouns:

Quote:

... who is beating him badly in the Polls ... The whole World is watching as the USA is being torn apart by dreams of Election Interference!

(But he forgot to capitalize dreams)

Maybe it's his

ancestry.

gnome · 14th September 2023, 10:04 AM

Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words.

Bear in mind, this man has a college degree.

Darat · 14th September 2023, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words.

Bear in mind, this man has a college degree.

Nope, he was called out for typos in his tweets so he adopted it as a "style" rather than admit he made typos, entirely ego based.

PitPat · 15th September 2023, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words.

Bear in mind, this man has a college degree.

Can you guess where? I think it's the "Wharton School of Business."

Gord_in_Toronto · 15th September 2023, 05:34 PM

"Are you ready for another Trump Presidency?"

These guys aren't.

Big Lie Two Is Here, and It’s Far More Insidious Than Big Lie One

Quote:

. . . we are launching a “Stop Trump Summit” to be held in New York City in October. The summit will be a timely strategy session gathering some of the brightest minds in American politics and culture. Guests will include the sharpest analyst of Trump’s dangerous mind, his niece, psychologist Mary L. Trump; congressman and Trump impeachment manager Jamie Raskin; anti-Trump lawyer and CNN contributor George Conway; National Action Network founder Al Sharpton; and Stuart Stevens, senior adviser at the Lincoln Project; and actor Robert De Niro.

Lurch · 17th September 2023, 08:13 AM

It seems that a significant plurality of Americans are ready for a Trump Presidency v2.0.

As a chain is as strong as its weakest link, this land of crazies is defined by the clowns with flamethrowers.

FU, America.

Stacyhs · 17th September 2023, 01:05 PM

On Meet the Press, Trump continues his pathological lying:

1. New York and other places have passed legislation allowing them to kill babies after birth.

Truth: No state allows this.

2. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Jan 6 security.

Truth: That’s the responsibility of the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the US Capitol Police and approves requests for National Guard assistance.

3. Nancy Pelosi refused offer of 10,000 National Guard troops.

Truth: No such offer was made and she had no authority over it.

4. He was cheated out of the 2020 election due to rigging.

Truth: No evidence ever found.

5. No people on the terrorist watch list were encountered at the southern border when he was president in 2019 and the number has since 'exploded'.

Truth:

6. He killed the Nordstream Russia gas pipeline.

Truth: "Trump signed a bill in 2019 that included sanctions against companies building the pipeline. Construction was suspended, but resumed a year later, while Trump was in office. The pipeline has never gone into service because German Chancellor Olaf Scholz stopped the certification process last year."

7. Bacon's price has quintupled in price.

Truth: Bacon has increased by 11%.

8. About $85 Billion in military equipment was left behind in Afghanistan.

Truth: About $7 Billion was left behind.

MAGA doesn't care that Trump's a pathological liar as long as he tells them what they want to hear.

Stacyhs · 17th September 2023, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lurch

It seems that a significant plurality of Americans are ready for a Trump Presidency v2.0.

As a chain is as strong as its weakest link, this land of crazies is defined by the clowns with flamethrowers.

FU, America.

Ya know, I can empathize with your frustration with the political situation in the US, but you hateful, anti-American rhetoric has become very offensive.

Hercules56 · 17th September 2023, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

On Meet the Press, Trump continues his pathological lying:

1. New York and other places have passed legislation allowing them to kill babies after birth.

Truth: No state allows this.

2. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Jan 6 security.

Truth: That’s the responsibility of the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the US Capitol Police and approves requests for National Guard assistance.

3. Nancy Pelosi refused offer of 10,000 National Guard troops.

Truth: No such offer was made and she had no authority over it.

4. He was cheated out of the 2020 election due to rigging.

Truth: No evidence ever found.

5. No people on the terrorist watch list were encountered at the southern border when he was president in 2019 and the number has since 'exploded'.

Truth:

6. He killed the Nordstream Russia gas pipeline.

Truth: "Trump signed a bill in 2019 that included sanctions against companies building the pipeline. Construction was suspended, but resumed a year later, while Trump was in office. The pipeline has never gone into service because German Chancellor Olaf Scholz stopped the certification process last year."

7. Bacon's price has quintupled in price.

Truth: Bacon has increased by 11%.

8. About $85 Billion in military equipment was left behind in Afghanistan.

Truth: About $7 Billion was left behind.

MAGA doesn't care that Trump's a pathological liar as long as he tells them what they want to hear.

Question: in NY, at one stage of fetal development is abortion no longer legal?

DevilsAdvocate · 17th September 2023, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Question: in NY, at one stage of fetal development is abortion no longer legal?

First 24 weeks of pregnancy. After that, only if there is a health risk.

Hercules56 · 17th September 2023, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate

First 24 weeks of pregnancy. After that, only if there is a health risk.

Wow, I found an abortion clinic in New York that talks about abortions even in the 9th month.

https://eastsidegynecology.com/blog/...-get-abortion/

9th September 2023, 05:13 AM	#161
lobosrul5 Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 6,175	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Yes, they said this the first time around too. But seems that for the most part, folks in govt. prefer to follow the law and the Constitution, not the desperate needs of a jackass. Barr, Pence, Bolton, like literally everyone turned on Trump. They cared more about their oath to the nation. Because they aren't total Trump sycophants. I guess the only other hope is the crazies are denied confirmation by the Senate. His next vp will likely be Kari Lake or similar.
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9th September 2023, 07:50 AM	#162
W.D.Clinger Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,361	Originally Posted by Donal Trump slurs and butchers words plenty. especially towards the end of his klan rallies. Originally Posted by Hercules56 Got a video to prove that? Multiple videos here show Trump mispronouncing Tanzania ("Tanzaynia"), Namibia ("Nambia"), diversity ("diversary"), Barcelona ("Bar-th-elona"), Puerto Rico ("Poooooerto Rico"), Ulysses S Grant, United States ("United Shtatesh"), enormous (or anonymous? He said "Anomous"). He has also mispronounced fatalities ("fatilities"), doctors ("doxxers"), and Yosemite ("Yo-Semite"). He butchers words in writing as well: "unpresidented", "smocking gun", "Scott free", counsel (which he regularly misspells, in multiple ways including "councel"), role (which he misspells as "roll"), lose (which he misspells as "loose"), honored (which he tweeted as "honered"), heal ("heel"). And who could forget "covfefe"? Originally Posted by ZiprHead Biden has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you have been a stutterer since childhood. To engage in a bit of whataboutism: Trump too has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you've been stupid since childhood.
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9th September 2023, 10:45 AM	#164
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 34,086	Originally Posted by The Don I think you are engaging in wishful thinking. IMO those who will likely vote for President Trump in 2024 are: The hardcore MAGA supporters People who would vote always for the Republican Presidential candidate regardless of who they are and who they are running against - there may be considerable overlap with MAGA supporters but there are also dyed in the wool GOP supporters who cannot vote for anyone other than a Republican The woefully underinformed who will simply vote on name recognition - they recognise Trump from the Apprentice and right wing media outlets, Biden less so Contrarians and pizza cutters (all edge and no point) Or, as The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin had it: Quote: Reggie: You realise the sort of people you're going to attract, don't you Jimmy? Thugs, bully-boys, psychopaths, sacked policemen, security guards, sacked security guards, racialists, Paki-bashers, queer-bashers, Chink-bashers, basher-bashers, anybody-bashers, Rear Admirals, queer Admirals, Vice-Admirals, fascists, neo-fascists, crypto-fascists, loyalists, neo- loyalists, crypto-loyalists. Jimmy: Do you really think so? I thought support might be difficult. Dave
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9th September 2023, 01:09 PM	#166
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by Lurch Oh, FFS! Let's assume it does indeed come down to B vs T. If that's the choice, then even in the extreme an imbecilic good man is better than a genius psychopath. Because the good man will have good people in his Administration. The psychopath will demand none better than bootlickers. Those who disparage Biden would seem reveal an affinity for the unitary Executive, where it's all about one man at the top. A functioning Government is far more a team. Biden = team. Trump = ME! Biden has been a good President. He will be a good President again. Its getting him across the finish line that I am concerned about. But lets see where we are in January.
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9th September 2023, 01:35 PM	#168
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by johnny karate Reminds me of this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=362526 My prediction was right, Dems lost the House.
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9th September 2023, 10:25 AM	#163
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,473	Oh, FFS! Let's assume it does indeed come down to B vs T. If that's the choice, then even in the extreme an imbecilic good man is better than a genius psychopath. Because the good man will have good people in his Administration. The psychopath will demand none better than bootlickers. Those who disparage Biden would seem reveal an affinity for the unitary Executive, where it's all about one man at the top. A functioning Government is far more a team. Biden = team. Trump = ME!

9th September 2023, 12:43 PM	#165
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 31,719	Originally Posted by W.D.Clinger Multiple videos here show Trump mispronouncing Tanzania ("Tanzaynia"), Namibia ("Nambia"), diversity ("diversary"), Barcelona ("Bar-th-elona"), Puerto Rico ("Poooooerto Rico"), Ulysses S Grant, United States ("United Shtatesh"), enormous (or anonymous? He said "Anomous"). He has also mispronounced fatalities ("fatilities"), doctors ("doxxers"), and Yosemite ("Yo-Semite"). He butchers words in writing as well: "unpresidented", "smocking gun", "Scott free", counsel (which he regularly misspells, in multiple ways including "councel"), role (which he misspells as "roll"), lose (which he misspells as "loose"), honored (which he tweeted as "honered"), heal ("heel"). And who could forget "covfefe"? To engage in a bit of whataboutism: Trump too has always slurred and tripped over his words. That's what happens when you've been stupid since childhood. Being a bit nit-picky here, but in Spain itself, Barcelona is pronounced Bar-the-lona although I doubt Trump knew that. I doubt he even knows where it is.

9th September 2023, 01:17 PM	#167
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,207	Reminds me of this thread: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=362526

9th September 2023, 01:40 PM	#169
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,207	Originally Posted by Hercules56 My prediction was right, Dems lost the House. Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t.

9th September 2023, 03:41 PM	#170
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by johnny karate Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t. Before 2022 the Dems controlled the House. After 2022 they no longer had control. So I was part right, as I stated in the thread that the Dems may lose big or lose little but it still would be a net loss.
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9th September 2023, 03:53 PM	#172
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by johnny karate Your prediction was that they would lose the midterms. They didn’t. Dems had full control of Congress in 2022. In 2023, they did not, hence Biden's agenda was fully put on hold. That's a loss.
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9th September 2023, 04:28 PM	#173
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,207	Originally Posted by Hercules56 Dems had full control of Congress in 2022. In 2023, they did not, hence Biden's agenda was fully put on hold. That's a loss. What part of Biden’s agenda has been put on hold? Please be specific. The one major legislative showdown between Democrats and Republicans since the midterms was about the debt ceiling. How’d that work out?

9th September 2023, 06:12 PM	#174
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by johnny karate What part of Biden’s agenda has been put on hold? Please be specific. The one major legislative showdown between Democrats and Republicans since the midterms was about the debt ceiling. How’d that work out? You're joking, right?
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10th September 2023, 05:25 AM	#176
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,503	Originally Posted by gnome This was what I was about to say. Why are people assuming he plans to participate? For the first presidential debate they should just empty chair him. And every so often after President Biden explains how he's helping Ameicans, the host could turn to the chair and say "And what would you do here Mr. T***? Oh, sorry about that, I forgot for a moment that Mr.* T** was too cowardly to turn up tonight." Do that two or three times over 90 minutes would ensure a blazing hissy fit of incoherence from T**y in the next debate.
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10th September 2023, 05:32 AM	#177
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,503	Originally Posted by Beerina The only good thing I can say about Trump* is he was fough to a standstill on most politicies, and do nothing governments tend to be better than do something from a libertarian point of view. * Not technically true. He resisted national lockdowns in favor of letting states do it. Don't grant the executive emergency powers is probably the single greatest lesson of history. Of course that may have been an accidental side effect while trying to avoid piling on an emergency he was trying to undersell, rather than a principled stancchaha hahahaha principled stance. That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done.
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10th September 2023, 08:43 AM	#178
johnny karate ... and your little dog too. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16,207	Originally Posted by Hercules56 You're joking, right? No, I’m not joking. I want you to tell me how Republicans, who according to you won the midterms, have leveraged that victory to impede Biden’s agenda. Please be specific and let’s take it to the appropriate thread.

10th September 2023, 08:56 AM	#179
PitPat Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,084	Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done. Another good question. Third parties have an effect, remember Ross Perot? HA, just kidding, nobody does, but many remember Stockdale. Or Ralph Nader. All it takes for some traction towards the end that may skew things one way or another.

10th September 2023, 09:32 AM	#180
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,898	Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle That's only because libertarians have little understanding reality, and have no understanding of how to get things done. So a few planes fall out of the sky or all the meat in the country is contaminated. That's not a big deal.
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12th September 2023, 10:13 AM	#181
Gulliver Foyle Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 2,503	Originally Posted by Donal So a few planes fall out of the sky or all the meat in the country is contaminated. That's not a big deal. And everybody who's not in the top 5% of wealth holders and who's not WASP suddenly finds them a slave, it's the American dream.
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13th September 2023, 02:13 PM	#182
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 59,466	Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected. We could have Red Dawn for real.
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13th September 2023, 02:53 PM	#183
Hercules56 Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 6,595	Originally Posted by dudalb Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected. We could have Red Dawn for real. What did he say?
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13th September 2023, 05:40 PM	#184
Resume Troublesome Passenger Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 21,674	Originally Posted by Hercules56 What did he say? Maybe this: Quote: “It’s all happening, even worse than anyone projected,” Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social just after midnight Wednesday. “President Vladimir Putin of Russia is using Crooked Joe Biden’s illegal Banana Republic style treatment of his Political Opponent, who is beating him badly in the Polls, to condemn America and all of the good things it once stood for,” Trump continued. “The whole World is watching as the USA is being torn apart by dreams of Election Interference!” The former president’s comments come a day after Putin claimed the prosecution of Trump reveals the “rottenness” of the political system in the United States. The Russian president also backed Trump’s claims that the charges were political.
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13th September 2023, 05:44 PM	#185
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 31,719	Originally Posted by Resume Maybe this: Trump is insane.

13th September 2023, 05:53 PM	#186
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,160	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Trump is insane. Lots of People randomly Capitalize words!
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13th September 2023, 06:11 PM	#187
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 20,140	Originally Posted by dudalb Trump has just confirmed that he would pretty be a Putin Puppet even more then last time if he is elected. We could have Red Dawn for real. Wolverines!
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14th September 2023, 02:12 AM	#188
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,239	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Lots of People randomly Capitalize words! It's easy to forget that he only started his random capitalization of words after he'd been criticised for some typos in tweets.
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14th September 2023, 04:58 AM	#189
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 67,160	Originally Posted by Darat It's easy to forget that he only started his random capitalization of words after he'd been criticised for some typos in tweets. According to the dictionary "covfefe" can be capitalized but doesn't have to be.
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14th September 2023, 08:37 AM	#190
dann Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,927	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Lots of People randomly Capitalize words! It doesn't appear to be entirely random. He seems to favor capitalized nouns: Quote: ... who is beating him badly in the Polls ... The whole World is watching as the USA is being torn apart by dreams of Election Interference! (But he forgot to capitalize dreams) Maybe it's his ancestry.
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14th September 2023, 10:04 AM	#191
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,317	Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words. Bear in mind, this man has a college degree.
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14th September 2023, 10:16 AM	#192
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 111,239	Originally Posted by gnome Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words. Bear in mind, this man has a college degree. Nope, he was called out for typos in his tweets so he adopted it as a "style" rather than admit he made typos, entirely ego based.
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15th September 2023, 12:16 AM	#193
PitPat Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,084	Originally Posted by gnome Maybe he thinks it's a form of emphasis. Like people that put quotes around words. Bear in mind, this man has a college degree. Can you guess where? I think it's the "Wharton School of Business."

15th September 2023, 05:34 PM	#194
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17th September 2023, 08:13 AM	#195
Lurch Master Poster Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,473	It seems that a significant plurality of Americans are ready for a Trump Presidency v2.0. As a chain is as strong as its weakest link, this land of crazies is defined by the clowns with flamethrowers. FU, America.

17th September 2023, 01:05 PM	#196
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 31,719	On Meet the Press, Trump continues his pathological lying: 1. New York and other places have passed legislation allowing them to kill babies after birth. Truth: No state allows this. 2. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Jan 6 security. Truth: That’s the responsibility of the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the US Capitol Police and approves requests for National Guard assistance. 3. Nancy Pelosi refused offer of 10,000 National Guard troops. Truth: No such offer was made and she had no authority over it. 4. He was cheated out of the 2020 election due to rigging. Truth: No evidence ever found. 5. No people on the terrorist watch list were encountered at the southern border when he was president in 2019 and the number has since 'exploded'. Truth: 6. He killed the Nordstream Russia gas pipeline. Truth: "Trump signed a bill in 2019 that included sanctions against companies building the pipeline. Construction was suspended, but resumed a year later, while Trump was in office. The pipeline has never gone into service because German Chancellor Olaf Scholz stopped the certification process last year." 7. Bacon's price has quintupled in price. Truth: Bacon has increased by 11%. 8. About $85 Billion in military equipment was left behind in Afghanistan. Truth: About $7 Billion was left behind. MAGA doesn't care that Trump's a pathological liar as long as he tells them what they want to hear.

17th September 2023, 01:08 PM	#197
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 31,719	Originally Posted by Lurch It seems that a significant plurality of Americans are ready for a Trump Presidency v2.0. As a chain is as strong as its weakest link, this land of crazies is defined by the clowns with flamethrowers. FU, America. Ya know, I can empathize with your frustration with the political situation in the US, but you hateful, anti-American rhetoric has become very offensive.