Windows 10 S Mode: Is It Worth It? - Page 2

Childlike Empress · 16th September 2019, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Wudang

Check Amazon. USB sticks and other media sold as Linux.

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/s?k=linux...m_browse-bin_1

Yeah, but they're selling USB sticks and other media.

Wudang · 17th September 2019, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Yeah, but they're selling USB sticks and other media.

And charging extra for Linux. The simple fact is you can buy Linux if someone will sell it to you. If I go on the RHEL web page there's a big button "Buy it".

jeremyp · 17th September 2019, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

You can't buy Linux!

Of course you can.

jeremyp · 17th September 2019, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

No you can't. You can buy some perks like service contracts or special need distributions etc, but you can't buy Linux itself.

If you are going to be that pedantic, you can't buy macOS - it comes free with a Mac. You can't buy Windows - only a licence to use it. In fact, that applies to pretty much any software.

Elagabalus · 17th September 2019, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Why would you want to ruin a PC by installing Apple's crapware on it.

To piss off the Linux, Windoze and Apple fanbois all at once!!

Originally Posted by catsmate

Really? I've been using notebooks for 27 years and have had no more problems that with desktops.

They're problematic to install the best OS known to man, OSX!!!

And they suck. See my comment upthread.

@Shemp, look what YOUR thread has turned into!

Wudang · 17th September 2019, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

Why would you want to ruin a PC by installing Apple's crapware on it?

Yeah, but your ~~scientists~~ techies were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

CORed · 17th September 2019, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

To piss off the Linux, Windoze and Apple fanbois all at once!!

They're problematic to install the best OS known to man, OSX!!!

And they suck. See my comment upthread.

@Shemp, look what YOUR thread has turned into!

Way back in the days when Usenet was a thing, arguments about best OS, best text editor (EMACS or VI), etc. were called religious wars.

Wudang · 17th September 2019, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by CORed

Way back in the days when Usenet was a thing, arguments about best OS, best text editor (EMACS or VI), etc. were called religious wars.

Childlike Empress · 17th September 2019, 10:48 AM

Isn't that "MacOS" thing just another crappy window manager for Linux? I think I'll first try ratpoison... sounds interesting:

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zooterkin · 17th September 2019, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Childlike Empress

Isn't that "MacOS" thing just another crappy window manager for Linux?

I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based.

CORed · 18th September 2019, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based.

That matches my recollection, too. It could be said that MacOS is a GUI for UNIX. "Window manager" is pretty much an X Window concept, and most Linux GUI's are still based on X. I think a pretty good case could be made that the MacOS GUI is better than X.

Back in the dark ages, I used a DG Unix server using Motiff as the window manager. I actually liked it. It was pretty basic, with just a menu to launch programs that popped up with a right or middle (I forget which) mouse click. The menu was configured by editing a text file in your home directory, and it was simple to add programs to it, as long as you knew the directory path to the program. A lot of the more recent Linux "Desktop environments" I've used have way too many bells and whistles, and make configuring launch menus or desktop icons way more difficult than it should be.

Childlike Empress · 18th September 2019, 12:55 PM

Folks, this is the S Mode thread. We were at trolling each other.

commandlinegamer · 18th September 2019, 04:08 PM

Biggest annoyance about S Mode was having to register an email address to switch it off.

Trebuchet · 18th September 2019, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by commandlinegamer

Biggest annoyance about S Mode was having to register an email address to switch it off.

Microsoft owns you now!

a_unique_person · 19th September 2019, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based.

How to get rich. Take a free OS and charge people for it.

shemp · 8th December 2019, 03:34 PM

OK, so I had to download an app to the laptop for work purposes, so I've gone out of S mode. Now, I've got a thirty-day trial of McAfee antivirus, with the "opportunity" to purchase the first year for $39.99. Of course, I'm not going to jump at this.

I had Norton on a previous laptop, and while I never had any virus issues, it slowed performance a lot. After I got rid of it, Windows Defender took over, and I never had any issues. Should I just rely on Defender now?

So, what's your opinion? What are you running? What do you recommend?*

* Anyone who responds "Buy a Mac!" or "Switch to Linux!" will be ignored.

William Parcher · 8th December 2019, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Should I just rely on Defender now?

Yes, only Windows Defender.

Uninstall McAfee. Also, in addition to uninstalling it run this removal tool.

http://mcafee-removal-tool.com

Childlike Empress · 9th December 2019, 02:08 AM

I just have to post this tutorial video every time someone writes "uninstall McAfee". And yes, that really is the man who gave the name to the menace:

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Wudang · 9th December 2019, 03:04 AM

Brilliant!

16th September 2019, 01:16 PM	#41
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,858	Originally Posted by Wudang Check Amazon. USB sticks and other media sold as Linux. https://smile.amazon.co.uk/s?k=linux...m_browse-bin_1 Yeah, but they're selling USB sticks and other media.
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17th September 2019, 12:36 AM	#42
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,371	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Yeah, but they're selling USB sticks and other media. And charging extra for Linux. The simple fact is you can buy Linux if someone will sell it to you. If I go on the RHEL web page there's a big button "Buy it".
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17th September 2019, 09:39 AM	#45
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,896	Originally Posted by catsmate Why would you want to ruin a PC by installing Apple's crapware on it. To piss off the Linux, Windoze and Apple fanbois all at once!! Originally Posted by catsmate Really? I've been using notebooks for 27 years and have had no more problems that with desktops. They're problematic to install the best OS known to man, OSX!!! And they suck. See my comment upthread. @Shemp, look what YOUR thread has turned into!
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17th September 2019, 09:54 AM	#46
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,371	Originally Posted by catsmate Why would you want to ruin a PC by installing Apple's crapware on it? Yeah, but your ~~scientists~~ techies were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
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17th September 2019, 10:32 AM	#48
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,371	Originally Posted by CORed Way back in the days when Usenet was a thing, arguments about best OS, best text editor (EMACS or VI), etc. were called religious wars.
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17th September 2019, 05:07 AM	#43
jeremyp Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 1,267	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress You can't buy Linux! Of course you can.

17th September 2019, 05:11 AM	#44
jeremyp Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 1,267	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress No you can't. You can buy some perks like service contracts or special need distributions etc, but you can't buy Linux itself. If you are going to be that pedantic, you can't buy macOS - it comes free with a Mac. You can't buy Windows - only a licence to use it. In fact, that applies to pretty much any software.

17th September 2019, 10:27 AM	#47
CORed Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 9,999	Originally Posted by Elagabalus To piss off the Linux, Windoze and Apple fanbois all at once!! They're problematic to install the best OS known to man, OSX!!! And they suck. See my comment upthread. @Shemp, look what YOUR thread has turned into! Way back in the days when Usenet was a thing, arguments about best OS, best text editor (EMACS or VI), etc. were called religious wars.

17th September 2019, 11:30 PM	#50
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Photo Contest Winner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 47,992	Originally Posted by Childlike Empress Isn't that "MacOS" thing just another crappy window manager for Linux? I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based.
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18th September 2019, 09:46 AM	#51
CORed Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 9,999	Originally Posted by zooterkin I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based. That matches my recollection, too. It could be said that MacOS is a GUI for UNIX. "Window manager" is pretty much an X Window concept, and most Linux GUI's are still based on X. I think a pretty good case could be made that the MacOS GUI is better than X. Back in the dark ages, I used a DG Unix server using Motiff as the window manager. I actually liked it. It was pretty basic, with just a menu to launch programs that popped up with a right or middle (I forget which) mouse click. The menu was configured by editing a text file in your home directory, and it was simple to add programs to it, as long as you knew the directory path to the program. A lot of the more recent Linux "Desktop environments" I've used have way too many bells and whistles, and make configuring launch menus or desktop icons way more difficult than it should be.

18th September 2019, 12:55 PM	#52
Childlike Empress Ewige Blumenkraft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ivory Tower Posts: 18,858	Folks, this is the S Mode thread. We were at trolling each other.
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18th September 2019, 04:08 PM	#53
commandlinegamer Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mazes of Menace Posts: 9,080	Biggest annoyance about S Mode was having to register an email address to switch it off.
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18th September 2019, 04:18 PM	#54
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 30,608	Originally Posted by commandlinegamer Biggest annoyance about S Mode was having to register an email address to switch it off. Microsoft owns you now!
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19th September 2019, 10:01 PM	#55
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 42,977	Originally Posted by zooterkin I’m pretty sure MacOS is nothing to do with Linux, nor is it just a window manager. It’s a UNIX system, originally BSD based. How to get rich. Take a free OS and charge people for it.
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8th December 2019, 03:34 PM	#56
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 39,566	OK, so I had to download an app to the laptop for work purposes, so I've gone out of S mode. Now, I've got a thirty-day trial of McAfee antivirus, with the "opportunity" to purchase the first year for $39.99. Of course, I'm not going to jump at this. I had Norton on a previous laptop, and while I never had any virus issues, it slowed performance a lot. After I got rid of it, Windows Defender took over, and I never had any issues. Should I just rely on Defender now? So, what's your opinion? What are you running? What do you recommend?* * Anyone who responds "Buy a Mac!" or "Switch to Linux!" will be ignored.
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8th December 2019, 09:44 PM	#57
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,728	Originally Posted by shemp Should I just rely on Defender now? Yes, only Windows Defender. Uninstall McAfee. Also, in addition to uninstalling it run this removal tool. http://mcafee-removal-tool.com
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9th December 2019, 03:04 AM	#59
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,371	Brilliant!
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