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Old 8th April 2015, 07:06 AM   #41
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Every single thing about this "gem" is wrong -
I'm learning english, I thought the word was "fun", now I know it's "wrong"
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Old 9th April 2015, 01:07 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Hans View Post
In the late 18th century 85% of the wealth (mainly land) of the UK was concentrated within 300 of the wealthiest families. In France it was more disbursed but the same concentration was also true for other European states with money/land/power being concentrated in the noble classes. In other places the concentration of wealth was even more centralized.

I can't remember if it was here or on another forum, but I remember someone telling a story about teaching a college history class. When discussing the wealthy European nobles of this period, the instructor asked if anyone knew how they had obtained their wealth. The class, almost in unison, responded "hard work".
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Old 9th April 2015, 01:28 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Suppose history teaches that powerful people (and madmen) tend to consolidate power.

I dont know if that is true, but it sounds like some human nature I've seen.
It is. I don't think anybody would denie that. but still *politician* supposedly should know better still stand by trickle down and all that nonsense. Despite the evidence that this does not work. And never had.
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Old 9th April 2015, 02:55 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by Joey McGee View Post
Orders of magnitude of difference...
OH, I think Carlin was by far the better comedian,but I do think both of them did buy into a lot of nonsense.
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Old 9th April 2015, 03:19 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
I can't remember if it was here or on another forum, but I remember someone telling a story about teaching a college history class. When discussing the wealthy European nobles of this period, the instructor asked if anyone knew how they had obtained their wealth. The class, almost in unison, responded "hard work".
Well for many of their ancestors it was a task of warfare and political scheming which could be considered 'hard work', later generations had it a tad easier but still few nobles of the present time retain any great wealth or power. A few do but often from non-noble pursuits or of being in 'zoos'.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
OH, I think Carlin was by far the better comedian,but I do think both of them did buy into a lot of nonsense.
Carlin was more philosophical and is not on record buying into the major conspiracy theories whereas Hicks promoted them. Orders of magnitude stands.
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Originally Posted by Joey McGee View Post
Carlin was more philosophical and is not on record buying into the major conspiracy theories whereas Hicks promoted them. Orders of magnitude stands.
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.
No, he didn't.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.

A lie.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.
Bubba you're significantly hanicapping yourself by not examining and rethinking claims before posting them. My favorite is when you said Randi lied about psychic dogs in a conspiracy to cover-up false positives in the paranormal. I mean, that's funny to me. So are comments like "Still cant believe that anyone thinks muslims did 911. Mental ****ers." the top comment on the george carlin video.
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Old 10th April 2015, 09:35 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
I can't remember if it was here or on another forum, but I remember someone telling a story about teaching a college history class. When discussing the wealthy European nobles of this period, the instructor asked if anyone knew how they had obtained their wealth. The class, almost in unison, responded "hard work".
Oh it was hard work, undoubtedly!
Just not theirs
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Didn't Carlin pride himself on being a skeptic? Just because he said some sh*t about some stuff ( ) doesn't make him right. He could be dead-on on some things and full of it on others. As we all are, to one extent or another.

Part of critical thinking is critiquing and reevaluating your own position, especially in light of the evidence. CT'ers miss that part, perhaps deliberately, as they focus all their incoherent rambling "theories" and "questions" on the "NWO" or "the government" or "the Powers That Be."

I liked Carlin, but don't take his word as Gospel. I don't think even he would appreciate that (and not just for religious reasons )
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I figured I'd put this in the Conspiracy Theory section because it seems that Conspiracy Theorists is what we label people who speak against the powers that be.

What They Don't Want You To Know
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Old 7th February 2019, 02:25 PM   #55
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So what don't they want you to know?

As I don't watch random Youtube videos.
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A lot of the time it's not what you don't know that hurts you, but what you know that ain't so.
That applies to conspiracy loons in spades.
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Old 7th February 2019, 03:16 PM   #58
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Originally Posted by fagin View Post
So what don't they want you to know?

As I don't watch random Youtube videos.
Great answer.
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Originally Posted by fagin View Post
So what don't they want you to know?

As I don't watch random Youtube videos.
I watched a little of it. It's a rant about how we're all puppets of the power elite, and stuff like that. Carlin has been dead for over a decade, so I suspect that the novelty of the information is getting a little stale. It's like a few years ago the constant spam I was getting for the forbidden CD. Send away now and get the secret CD nobody has ever heard of full of secrets nobody is allowed to know. Or before that the big shiny mass market books of secrets nobody is supposed to know.

One is reminded a bit of the old Beyond the Fringe sketch about "the Aftermyth of War:" Please, sir, I want to join the few! I'm sorry, there are far too many.
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Is this like that letter on the dangers of aspartame that makes a new email round about every 5 years? Carlin died a decade ago.
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Apparently someone remixed a George Carlin bit into a Super Serious Revolutionary Manifesto
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I watched a little of it. It's a rant about how we're all puppets of the power elite, and stuff like that. Carlin has been dead for over a decade, so I suspect that the novelty of the information is getting a little stale. It's like a few years ago the constant spam I was getting for the forbidden CD. Send away now and get the secret CD nobody has ever heard of full of secrets nobody is allowed to know. Or before that the big shiny mass market books of secrets nobody is supposed to know.

One is reminded a bit of the old Beyond the Fringe sketch about "the Aftermyth of War:" Please, sir, I want to join the few! I'm sorry, there are far too many.
When it comes to a comedian promoting conspiracy crap, though, Carlin comes nowhere close to Bill Hicks.
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Somewhere along the line Carlin stopped being funny and just became a cranky old man.
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Somewhere along the line Carlin stopped being funny and just became a cranky old man.
He was always cranky
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I watched a little of it. It's a rant about how we're all puppets of the power elite, and stuff like that.
Yes, but with the usual The Matrix style cutaways to sped up crowds of shoppers and fast food being served and the building music to signify the feeling of profound realisation in the viewer. There seems to be a huge market for this type of vague, 'We're all just sheep and slaves to money! Wake up!' stuff (usually pedalled by a multi-millionaire entertainer ). Russell Brand (absolutely awful English 'comedian'; if you've never seen his stuff, don't bother) is another very popular one, Michael Moore and so on.

Having said that, one bit of the Carlin routine above that I think makes a lot of sense is right at the start when he says, 'Be happy with what you've got.' I completely agree with that; you should constantly question whether you actually need (or even actually want) that thing that everyone else is suddenly buying and so on.
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I watched a little of it. It's a rant about how we're all puppets of the power elite, and stuff like that. Carlin has been dead for over a decade, so I suspect that the novelty of the information is getting a little stale. It's like a few years ago the constant spam I was getting for the forbidden CD. Send away now and get the secret CD nobody has ever heard of full of secrets nobody is allowed to know. Or before that the big shiny mass market books of secrets nobody is supposed to know.

One is reminded a bit of the old Beyond the Fringe sketch about "the Aftermyth of War:" Please, sir, I want to join the few! I'm sorry, there are far too many.
But it was probably satirical comedy, not some all powerful voice against "them".
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In the late 18th century 85% of the wealth (mainly land) of the UK was concentrated within 300 of the wealthiest families. In France it was more disbursed but the same concentration was also true for other European states with money/land/power being concentrated in the noble classes. In other places the concentration of wealth was even more centralized.

History tends to repeat itself in some ways:

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Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation's wealth; the bottom 80% own 7%; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent".
(...)
More recently, in 2017, an Oxfam study found that eight rich people, six of them Americans, own as much combined wealth as half the human race.
Wealth inequality in the USA (Wikipedia)
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You don't actually have to link to George Carlin routines. We're all on the Internet here. We all know how to find Carlin if we want Carlin.

Why don't you focus on posting your own original thoughts and ideas, if you're going to post at all?
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You don't actually have to link to George Carlin routines. We're all on the Internet here. We all know how to find Carlin if we want Carlin.

Why don't you focus on posting your own original thoughts and ideas, if you're going to post at all?
Well y'know, seemed like a good way to start conversation on a topic.
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I figured I'd put this in the Conspiracy Theory section because it seems that Conspiracy Theorists is what we label people who speak against the powers that be.



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We?

Who is labeling the people who speak against the powers that be? Of all the people that speak against power, what portion of them are labeled as conspiracy theorists and might it be for a reason like maybe it’s true?

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We?

Who is labeling the people who speak against the powers that be? Of all the people that speak against power, what portion of them are labeled as conspiracy theorists and might it be for a reason like maybe it’s true?
We the oh-so-illuminated who can see through the illogic of these silly childish conspiracy theorists.

I don't know what portion of the questioning people are labelled as Conspiracy Theorists. I imagine some people even label uncontroversial people like Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein conspiracy theorists.

Is it true? In the case of George Carlin, far from it. The guy is just talking about the facts of capitalism, he isn't needlessly ascribing occult explanations to things. He's just speaking with honesty, and seeing things with open-mindedness and clarity.
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I have three distinct lasting images of George Carlin, all from movies.

As Rufus, from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Simply a cool character.

As a priest in Dogma -- somehow oxymoronically perfect.

As a hitchhiker in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Unfortunately this is the latest image and it features him
comically opening his mouth wide and bending over to go down on the trucker who picked him up.
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We the oh-so-illuminated who can see through the illogic of these silly childish conspiracy theorists.



I don't know what portion of the questioning people are labelled as Conspiracy Theorists. I imagine some people even label uncontroversial people like Noam Chomsky and Naomi Klein conspiracy theorists.



Is it true? In the case of George Carlin, far from it. The guy is just talking about the facts of capitalism, he isn't needlessly ascribing occult explanations to things. He's just speaking with honesty, and seeing things with open-mindedness and clarity.


You imagine a straw man argument, then. You want to argue against a thing that no one is saying, for which you didn’t provide evidence. That’s generally discouraged on this forum.
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Is it true? In the case of George Carlin, far from it. The guy is just talking about the facts of capitalism, he isn't needlessly ascribing occult explanations to things. He's just speaking with honesty, and seeing things with open-mindedness and clarity.
George Carlin was worth around $10 million at the time of his death. This means capitalism was very good to him.

I love Carlin's work, I bought all of his albums starting back in the 70's. I'm certain he would be disappointed that people would quote him as some kind of expert on anything. In fact, he'd make fun of those people. Do you ask a comedian to fill cavities in your teeth? Do you want a comedian doing your taxes?

I hope not.

Carlin's act was about 60 to 90 minutes, he told a lot of great jokes. He came from the branch of observational humor where the absurdities and inconsistencies of of daily life are boiled down to punch-lines. Carlin rejected Catholicism, and was pro-choice ("Have you ever noticed that the women who are against abortion or chick you wouldn't want to **** in the first place?" - George Carlin, Class Clown, 1972.)

My guess is that you are unfamiliar with the entirety of Carlin's work.

The problem here is that you have brought a tired old video to a place where we ask for substance when defending a position, not another YouTube video.
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Originally Posted by Bubba
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.

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No, he didn't.
You`re right AJM, he actually said he "wouldn`t trust an investigation".

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Originally Posted by Bubba
Carlin agreed there should be a new investigation of 9/11, on video, while he was signing books in a bookstore. Just sayin, not that it proves anything.



You`re right AJM, he actually said he "wouldn`t trust an investigation".

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Old 10th February 2019, 04:50 AM   #80
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
You imagine a straw man argument, then. You want to argue against a thing that no one is saying, for which you didn’t provide evidence. That’s generally discouraged on this forum.
Well I don't see the thread being moved out of the "Conspiracy Theories" section.
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