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Skeptic Ginger · 6th February 2019, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by cmikes

I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Politico

Venezuela style Socialists are about as popular for the Democratic establishment as Libertarians are for the Republican establishment.

Meh, very common for a newbie. We'll have to wait and see.

Eddie Dane · 7th February 2019, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

It was this comment after discussing right and left wing stereotypes:It sounded like you were dividing up the battle techniques.

I'm happy to take your word that isn't what you meant.

I should also add, I don't think the number of left wing SJW is a very large percentage on the left. This argument comes up all the time with the false equivalence: The right wingers are radical from the top down, the left is only radical on the fringe.

I just don't know about those percentages. I think we are all likely to overestimate the percentage of crazies on "their" side and underestimate the percentage of crazies on "our" side.

Both Twitter mobs are super-loud compared to the general population, though. There was a good article about that here in the Netherlands that claimed the large, moderate middle is being completely over-shouted by the extremists on both sides and companies and political parties are responding to this nonsense. Media companies and political parties feel they have to go "woke" because of left-wing Social Media activism, and when they do they get attacked by the right-wingers on social media.

Organisations should find a way to listen to the much larger middle. Now we have people demanding black women be put in charge, and another wing going ******* insane if black women are put in charge. The vast majority just want competent people in charge regardless of race and see black women getting to higher positions as a positive progression of society.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th February 2019, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

I just don't know about those percentages. I think we are all likely to overestimate the percentage of crazies on "their" side and underestimate the percentage of crazies on "our" side. ....

Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages?

Can you at least acknowledge there are no equivalent wackos leading the Democratic Party?

Belz... · 7th February 2019, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages?

Percentages don't exist anymore; Trump has dissolved reality.

Eddie Dane · 7th February 2019, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages?

Can you at least acknowledge there are no equivalent wackos leading the Democratic Party?

There are no equivalent wackos in the leadership of the Democratic party.

There are plenty of equivalent wackos in left-wing social media and in activism.

I don't know the size of the wacko segments on either side, but following the Pareto principle, I'm going to assume 20%.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th February 2019, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Dane

There are no equivalent wackos in the leadership of the Democratic party.

There are plenty of equivalent wackos in left-wing social media and in activism.

I don't know the size of the wacko segments on either side, but following the Pareto principle, I'm going to assume 20%.

I've yet to see any evidence for this false equivalence. Perhaps you have some.

Granted this stuff cycles on both sides over time, but right now the Trump camp and all that goes with it simply overwhelms anything wacko on the left.

I don't remember which country you're in Eddie. I am referring to the wackos in the US.

carlitos · 7th February 2019, 09:14 PM

I think one could open a thread in politics if they wanted to discuss this left right nonsense.

Skeptic Ginger · 7th February 2019, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by carlitos

I think one could open a thread in politics if they wanted to discuss this left right nonsense.

I agree but it's one of those proverbially overlapping subjects when CTs are discussed.

I think we wrapped it up there for the moment.

6th February 2019, 02:53 PM	#161
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,781	Originally Posted by cmikes I wouldn't get my hopes up. Politico Venezuela style Socialists are about as popular for the Democratic establishment as Libertarians are for the Republican establishment. Meh, very common for a newbie. We'll have to wait and see.
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7th February 2019, 04:23 AM	#162
Eddie Dane Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,464	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger It was this comment after discussing right and left wing stereotypes:It sounded like you were dividing up the battle techniques. I'm happy to take your word that isn't what you meant. I should also add, I don't think the number of left wing SJW is a very large percentage on the left. This argument comes up all the time with the false equivalence: The right wingers are radical from the top down, the left is only radical on the fringe. I just don't know about those percentages. I think we are all likely to overestimate the percentage of crazies on "their" side and underestimate the percentage of crazies on "our" side. Both Twitter mobs are super-loud compared to the general population, though. There was a good article about that here in the Netherlands that claimed the large, moderate middle is being completely over-shouted by the extremists on both sides and companies and political parties are responding to this nonsense. Media companies and political parties feel they have to go "woke" because of left-wing Social Media activism, and when they do they get attacked by the right-wingers on social media. Organisations should find a way to listen to the much larger middle. Now we have people demanding black women be put in charge, and another wing going ******* insane if black women are put in charge. The vast majority just want competent people in charge regardless of race and see black women getting to higher positions as a positive progression of society.
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7th February 2019, 12:31 PM	#163
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,781	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane I just don't know about those percentages. I think we are all likely to overestimate the percentage of crazies on "their" side and underestimate the percentage of crazies on "our" side. .... Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages? Can you at least acknowledge there are no equivalent wackos leading the Democratic Party?
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7th February 2019, 12:51 PM	#164
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the details Posts: 80,610	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages? Percentages don't exist anymore; Trump has dissolved reality.
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7th February 2019, 04:05 PM	#165
Eddie Dane Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,464	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Trump is POTUS and you don't know the percentages? Can you at least acknowledge there are no equivalent wackos leading the Democratic Party? There are no equivalent wackos in the leadership of the Democratic party. There are plenty of equivalent wackos in left-wing social media and in activism. I don't know the size of the wacko segments on either side, but following the Pareto principle, I'm going to assume 20%.
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7th February 2019, 04:11 PM	#166
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,781	Originally Posted by Eddie Dane There are no equivalent wackos in the leadership of the Democratic party. There are plenty of equivalent wackos in left-wing social media and in activism. I don't know the size of the wacko segments on either side, but following the Pareto principle, I'm going to assume 20%. I've yet to see any evidence for this false equivalence. Perhaps you have some. Granted this stuff cycles on both sides over time, but right now the Trump camp and all that goes with it simply overwhelms anything wacko on the left. I don't remember which country you're in Eddie. I am referring to the wackos in the US.
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7th February 2019, 09:14 PM	#167
carlitos "más divertido" Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19,667	I think one could open a thread in politics if they wanted to discuss this left right nonsense.

7th February 2019, 09:25 PM	#168
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 72,781	Originally Posted by carlitos I think one could open a thread in politics if they wanted to discuss this left right nonsense. I agree but it's one of those proverbially overlapping subjects when CTs are discussed. I think we wrapped it up there for the moment.
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