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Old 18th May 2018, 01:37 AM   #1
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Open carrying whilst graduating at Kent State - too soon?!

BBC News: Kaitlin Bennett - Why she wore a rifle for graduation photos

"A woman who slung an assault-style rifle across her shoulder for her graduation photos in the US has sparked a fierce debate over personal freedom, student protests and white privilege.

Kaitlin Bennett graduated from Kent State University in Ohio with a degree in biology.

The following day, the 22-year-old returned to the campus with an AR-10 semi-automatic rifle strapped to her back and posed for photographs while holding a graduation cap emblazoned with the words "come and take it".

Bennett, who later posted the photographs on Twitter, says she was protesting against a university policy that prohibited students, professors and employees from carrying "lethal weapons" on campus - but allows "guests" to possess them on school grounds (but not in buildings).

She noted that Kent State was the location where "four unarmed students were shot and killed by the government" - a reference to the 1970 incident where soldiers clashed with Vietnam War protesters, firing shots that hit 13 protesters and bystanders."

So what's the sub-text of the last paragraph? The students should have got into a firefight with the National Guard?
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Old 18th May 2018, 01:52 AM   #2
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Subtext is:

"Young person does and says something stupid that in 10 years time will make them cringe"
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Old 18th May 2018, 02:01 AM   #3
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How brave of her. "Come and take it", as if the government is going around confiscating everyone's guns.

Compared to the journalists and activists in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Burma, etc who are fighting for basic human rights, this posturing is just plain cute.
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Old 18th May 2018, 02:26 AM   #4
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I thought the 'come and take it' meant she was looking for a boyfriend....

I agree with Darat, just juvenile nonsense.
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Old 18th May 2018, 03:23 AM   #5
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I don't see the problem.

This time if the Guard shows up, they can shoot back.
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Old 18th May 2018, 03:39 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Subtext is:

"Young person does and says something stupid that in 10 years time will make them cringe"
We're not talking about you
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Old 18th May 2018, 05:28 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
I don't see the problem.

This time if the Guard shows up, they can shoot back.

If she had been around in 1970 who would she have aimed at ?

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/w/...tate_Shootings
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Old 18th May 2018, 05:47 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
I don't see the problem.

This time if the Guard shows up, they can shoot back.
As I recall, they shot back (at unarmed students) last time.
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Old 18th May 2018, 05:58 AM   #9
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As I recall, they shot back (at unarmed students) last time.
Cleon's point is that, if armed, the students could shoot back at the Guard. Your claim that the Guard "shot back" in 1970 is technically false: "shot back" implies someone else shot first (Han?), but no-one else was armed, let alone shot.
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Old 18th May 2018, 06:18 AM   #10
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It is a silly rule- guests can carry but students not? What is the logic?
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Old 18th May 2018, 06:24 AM   #11
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It is a silly rule- guests can carry but students not? What is the logic?
Midterms are stressful.
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Old 18th May 2018, 06:55 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
Cleon's point dark-ass joke is that, if armed, the students could shoot back at the Guard.
Fixed. It really wasn't meant to be a serious point, just black humor.
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Old 18th May 2018, 07:03 AM   #13
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Note this person is also known for being a fan of very racist contributors and comments on social media. Of course.

A racist with an assault weapon. Very fine people.
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Old 18th May 2018, 07:22 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Subtext is:

"Young person does and says something stupid that in 10 years time will make them cringe"
I don't think that you understand this girl and her tribe. She will be permanently happy with what she did.
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Old 18th May 2018, 09:04 AM   #15
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And whilst she is seeking publicity for her warped vision of the world, on other educational premises (in Sante Fe), at least 8 are dead in the latest school shooting. Her timing is somewhere between unlucky and crass.
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Old 18th May 2018, 11:31 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Subtext is:

"Young person does and says something stupid that in 10 years time will make them cringe"
Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
I don't think that you understand this girl and her tribe. She will be permanently happy with what she did.
Albeit unemployed.
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Old 19th May 2018, 12:41 AM   #17
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I don't think that you understand this girl and her tribe. She will be permanently happy with what she did.
Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Albeit unemployed.
How so? She's good fit-in for the next NRA president. Or to succeed Sarah Huckabee as WH spokesperson. I can think of a couple of other places that would hire a fine person like her.
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And whilst she is seeking publicity for her warped vision of the world, on other educational premises (in Sante Fe), at least 8 are dead in the latest school shooting. Her timing is somewhere between unlucky and crass.
Updated to 10 as I read it. Which timing do you suggest is not a few days before the next school shooting?
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How so? She's good fit-in for the next NRA president. Or to succeed Sarah Huckabee as WH spokesperson. I can think of a couple of other places that would hire a fine person like her.
<shudder>With his finger on the pulse of the media, I'm sure Trump will be eager to offer her a position.</shudder>
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Originally Posted by Venom View Post
How brave of her. "Come and take it", as if the government is going around confiscating everyone's guns.

Compared to the journalists and activists in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Burma, etc who are fighting for basic human rights, this posturing is just plain cute.
This.
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
<shudder>With his finger on the pulse of the media, I'm sure Trump will be eager to offer her a position.</shudder>
I take it she's good looking?
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I take it she's good looking?
I consider her to be very good looking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-photos.html
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Albeit unemployed.
I doubt that she will face employment rejection in the future. She is going for a biology degree but we don't know what career she is seeking. Maybe she doesn't exactly know yet. Her enthusiasm for gun freedom shouldn't make any difference and many if not most will not even know about her stunt.

I don't think this even approaches being a sudden career ender.
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I don't see the problem.

This time if the Guard shows up, they can shoot back.
Actually, she'd be shooting the students right alongside the national guard.

(Yes, I know you were joking. I...am too?)
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I doubt that she will face employment rejection in the future. She is going for a biology degree but we don't know what career she is seeking. Maybe she doesn't exactly know yet. Her enthusiasm for gun freedom shouldn't make any difference and many if not most will not even know about her stunt.

I don't think this even approaches being a sudden career ender.
Checking social media is pretty routine for employers these days.
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Hey it was a protest and if there is one thing Kent State knows it is how to deal with protesters when people feel threatened by them.
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