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Old 24th May 2018, 09:51 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
By the way, I don't begrudge you distrust of rotties, and I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. It's a reasonable default position so far as I'm concerned.

Distrust of any dog one is not intimately familiar with is always reasonable. One never knows what their temperament is, or how well-trained they are.

When I was younger, our family owned a Rottweiler. He was purebred, from an AKC line, but 1 inch too tall to meet standards, topped out at 158 pounds full grown (bigger than me at the time). He was very well-trained, and the biggest drama queen you would have ever met. If he'd been human, he'd have been Goth. Very friendly and tolerant dog, and scared to death of cats (got repeatedly beat up by a barn cat when he was a still a puppy/adolescent, even though he was something like 4 times her size at the time).

He rarely ever barked at strangers. What he would do is stand stock still, "on point", and at worst let out a deep, rumbling growl if they did not seem to belong there. Never attacked anyone, but I would not have wanted to be on the wrong end of that growl if I had bad intentions. When it came to people who were clearly allowed on the property, he was a slobbery attention whore who loved making new friends.

The only dog I've ever been attacked and bittn by was a neighbor's Cocker Spaniel, who attacked me in my own yard for no reason I was able to discern. Dog was a complete psycho. Fortunately it didn't do any damage (aside from a small bruise), and one good kick sent it running.
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Old 24th May 2018, 10:21 AM   #82
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[quote=arthwollipot;12303571]I have this delightful creature staying with me for a week and a half while his Other Person is interstate.

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Arthwollipot, can I have your stuff after the hellhound kills you?
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Old 25th May 2018, 02:52 AM   #83
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I have this delightful creature staying with me for a week and a half while his Other Person is interstate.

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Arthwollipot, can I have your stuff after the hellhound kills you?
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Old 26th May 2018, 12:30 AM   #84
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It's all down to one's own experiences. I've never met a Rottweiler that wanted to do anything but lean on me.

I' have met may Jack Russells that, in my opinion, should be destroyed. Far too many of these dogs are owned by people who don't think it's an issue, cos their dog is so small.
I couldn't agree more about the first part, and feel quite sad about the second.

My Rottweiler was the world's cuddliest footstool, and lived to sit silently leaning on every human in the world. I could only imagine her injuring a person, if she accidentally rolled over on one.

My Jack Russell (see my avatar) was the sweetest, most loveable dog, except when killing rats. She was a rat killing machine, and for many people, terrifying to watch in action.

Current fluff balls are little terriers. Fabulous pets, except for being a little over familiar with visitors. But... a boxer once knocked the fluffiest one down in a surprise attack. The boxer barely escaped with its face still attached. I really have to agree that all dogs need to be trained and socialised. Terriers really are scrappers, no matter how cute and fluffy.
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Old 9th July 2018, 11:13 AM   #85
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My future in-laws invited my mother and her husband up to visit over the 4th at their lakehouse. It's the first time they've met and will be the only time they meet before my wedding in spring. Like when all new people come by, the dog went mad. They seemed to calm it down after they first arrived, but it bit my mother's husband on the knee when he reached in to shake my future father in laws hand. Luckily he was able to jerk back on the leash at the last second, so the bite didn't pierce his jeans or injure him. The dog wouldn't calm down and after about 15 minutes it was taken to their other home, which required my future FIL to be gone most of the week while my people were visiting.

I'm am losing patience with this situation. This dog has bit other invited guests in the past. It tried to bite me when I was restraining it in one of its many frenzies. It tries to bite other people and animals while walking, lunging and pulling hard on the leash. If it ever escapes unleashed, it will get into a fight or attack someone or some animal.

My future in laws do little to curb this behavior. They ignore its aggression and allow it to bark and lunge at will. They feed it from their hands at the table and in the kitchen, making it very aggressive around food. It jumps on the frail grandma when she has food, resulting in repeat bruises to her legs. The future FIL feeds it from the grill and the dog is very aggressive when the grill is in use, having bitten someone for trying to approach to chat at a cookout.

Given that I have no faith in the owners (my future in-laws) to do the work necessary to correct this behavior, the dog ought to be re-homed or euthanized. This, of course, won't happen. The dog will in all likelihood live another 5 years at least and shows no signs of mellowing in her golden years.
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Old 9th July 2018, 11:20 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
My future in-laws invited my mother and her husband up to visit over the 4th at their lakehouse. It's the first time they've met and will be the only time they meet before my wedding in spring. Like when all new people come by, the dog went mad. They seemed to calm it down after they first arrived, but it bit my mother's husband on the knee when he reached in to shake my future father in laws hand. Luckily he was able to jerk back on the leash at the last second, so the bite didn't pierce his jeans or injure him. The dog wouldn't calm down and after about 15 minutes it was taken to their other home, which required my future FIL to be gone most of the week while my people were visiting.

I'm am losing patience with this situation. This dog has bit other invited guests in the past. It tried to bite me when I was restraining it in one of its many frenzies. It tries to bite other people and animals while walking, lunging and pulling hard on the leash. If it ever escapes unleashed, it will get into a fight or attack someone or some animal.

My future in laws do little to curb this behavior. They ignore its aggression and allow it to bark and lunge at will. They feed it from their hands at the table and in the kitchen, making it very aggressive around food. It jumps on the frail grandma when she has food, resulting in repeat bruises to her legs. The future FIL feeds it from the grill and the dog is very aggressive when the grill is in use, having bitten someone for trying to approach to chat at a cookout.

Given that I have no faith in the owners (my future in-laws) to do the work necessary to correct this behavior, the dog ought to be re-homed or euthanized. This, of course, won't happen. The dog will in all likelihood live another 5 years at least and shows no signs of mellowing in her golden years.
Maybe a nice Christmahannukwanzakkah gift would be to hire a local behaviorist to come by for some in-home training?

I mean, it'll all go to **** if the owners don't keep up with it, but maybe they'll be excited to see what kind of progress can be made with a little effort.
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