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Old 19th September 2022, 02:59 PM   #1121
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Originally Posted by Rolfe View Post
"Old age" is indeed allowable on a death certificate. Whether it should be may be up for discussion, but I imagine it spares the relatives of a very elderly person the trauma of having to agree to a post mortem when a death is not unexpected as a result of obvious failing health.

And then there was Shipman.
Ah yes, Gavin and Stacey. A great British sitcom.
The surnames in the show Shipman, West and Sutcliffe were not coincidence. Ruth Jones chose them because they were murderers
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Old 19th September 2022, 03:15 PM   #1122
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
A doctor said that being old is not a cause of death. You still have to die of something.
This doesn't mean that an autopsy is indicated.
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Old 19th September 2022, 03:30 PM   #1123
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
For all the grief America gets for not nailing equality it always strikes me how homogenous most other major world powers still are at the top.

75% of the United States is white
87% of the UK is white.

We've had more black Presidents then you've had black Monarchs or black Prime Ministers, and you had a lot more chances.
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Best that we don’t bring up the matter of female heads of state/government then…..
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Please. You're done 3, all of them in my lifetime, and one of them was Thatcher. That's still negative point territory as far as I'm concerned.

Your magical "God said I'm special because I came out of a certain person's vagina first" figurehead women don't count.
4: The Queen, Thatcher, May, Truss.
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Old 19th September 2022, 03:41 PM   #1124
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Originally Posted by angrysoba View Post
4: The Queen, Thatcher, May, Truss.
To be fair, we haven't really 'done' Truss yet.

I agree though that the signs don't look too good.
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Old 19th September 2022, 04:13 PM   #1125
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Old 19th September 2022, 04:16 PM   #1126
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Is it too late to stand in the queue?
Never too late. Or you can start one now for when Chuck dies.
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Old 19th September 2022, 04:41 PM   #1127
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Is it too late to stand in the queue?

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Never too late. Or you can start one now for when Chuck dies.

Probably too late to start the queue for Chuck's coronation
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I heard her truss strangled her.
I heard she died laughing that she had finally seen the back of Bozza.
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This doesn't mean that an autopsy is indicated.
I don't think they would need one. She had a team of doctors watching her 24x7 with the best facilities. They would have a very good idea what was most likely to have happened.
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Is it too late to stand in the queue?

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Never too late. Or you can start one now for when Chuck dies.

Probably too late to start the queue for Chuck's coronation
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She was not going out as much as usual, had not appeared at many of her Jubilee events, and the outgoing and incoming PMs had gone to see her at Balmoral rather than her going to London, so it was clear she was not in the best of health.
She definitely had mobility problems, and I gather she was reluctant to use a wheelchair hence people having to go to her rather than she to them, but she seemed in remarkably good health for someone of her age otherwise. Her family did not start gathering until the day of her death, so whatever happened it looks to have been sudden. A stroke, heart attack or bad fall would be my guess. We may find out eventually, or we may not. I don't feel any great need to know myself.
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4: The Queen, Thatcher, May, Truss.
Er, we've had more than one Queen, you know.
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Er, we've had more than one Queen, you know.
Queen Elizabeth II wasn't the first one?

Anyway, I realize now that I misread what Joe Morgue said. Not sure why he decided to suddenly rule out monarchs when females were introduced given he was happy to wag his finger over no black monarchs.
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I don't really care myself but the rumours are sure to start.
That she is not actually dead but returned to the Lizard Planet or something?
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Old 20th September 2022, 12:58 AM   #1137
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A doctor said that being old is not a cause of death. You still have to die of something.
Heart failure.
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Heart failure.

Or pneumonia.
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Or pneumonia.
I think we can all agree that her heart stopped?
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I've just read that all six verses of "God save the (now) King" were sung at the funeral.

So much for the story we keep being told that the offensive verse was just a bit of doggerel made up in the 18th century, as were a number of other unofficial verses, not actually part of the national anthem, stop being so sensitive, nothing to see here.

God grant that Marshall Wade
may by thy mighty aid
victory bring.
May he sedition hush
and like a torrent rush
rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the King.

Well, now that it rhymes properly again, maybe they'll include it all the time. It expresses the true feelings of a fair chunk of the English establishment and their Daily Mail reading hangers-on, after all.
Just wait 'til IndyRef II - The UDI.
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Of course what eventually caught up with her was a lifetime exposure to the fumes of fresh paint, which followed her everywhere she visited.

Unless I learn convincingly to the contrary I shall presume that although fading she urged her doctors to keep her going by any means until that lying sack Boris was gone. And then delivered her "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..." monologue.
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Glad that’s all sorted out to your satisfaction then
It seems our Royal Family annoy Joe as much as they annoy me.

He can console himself with the knowledge that he's not paying for the bastards.
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Lack of blood flow to the brain perhaps
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Just wait 'til IndyRef II - The UDI.

I should live so long.
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I believe roller skates would add convenience without subtracting dignity.


See what you did?

https://mobile.twitter.com/fearandlo...25283832188934
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Lack of blood flow to the brain perhaps
Doesn't seem to be a problem in their family....
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Here's something Scottish to cheer up our Scottish contingent:

Quote:
The service ended with the Queen’s piper, Paul Burns, playing Sleep, Dearie, Sleep. The lyrics are also military, and very Scottish: “Sodger, lie doon on yer wee pickle straw/ It’s no very broad, and it’s no very braw/ But, Sodger, it’s better than naething at a’/ Sae sleep, Sodger, sleep.”
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PS I am probably the only person in the world who loves the sound of bagpipes.

Pictured: lone piper after Queen's lowering down to the vault.
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Jeez. An entire college of piping attached to the Scottish Conservatoire, competitions and recitals all over the country, young people taking up the pipes on a daily basis, new music being written for the instrument, classical composers incorporating the instrument into orchestral pieces...

... and Vixen thinks she's the only person in the world who likes it.
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There's a scene in an old war movie - might have been Patton, I can't remember - where both American and British forces are moving into a captured city. The Americans are blaring out their Sousa march and the British have their pipes and drums. When both bands reach the middle of town the cacophony is incredible.

I have to say that I prefer the sound of the pipes and drums over the American style marching band, especially when they play Sousa. But not so much that I'd sit through an entire Edenborough Tattoo.
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There's a scene in an old war movie - might have been Patton, I can't remember - where both American and British forces are moving into a captured city. The Americans are blaring out their Sousa march and the British have their pipes and drums. When both bands reach the middle of town the cacophony is incredible.

I have to say that I prefer the sound of the pipes and drums over the American style marching band, especially when they play Sousa. But not so much that I'd sit through an entire Edenborough Tattoo.
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Thank you. That was an autocorrect (why?) that went unnoticed.
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It's not all pipers: there's a wide variety of different groups, usually with a military connection, to be fair, from all over the world. We were there in 2019, nice and warm which was unfortunate as the wasps were out in force, until the thunder and pouring rain drove them away.

That night there were two performances, so unless those had a change of clothing, it would have been a pretty soggy affair. But they were nothing if not professional, and it went off without a hitch.

Now, the World Pipe Band Championships, held in Glasgow a few weeks back is a different kettle of fish. Being a competition, there's less emphasis on the entertainment side of things, though it still draws large crowds.

I don't think I could sit through a whole day of that.
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I remember being taken to a matinée as a child. It was a blazing hot day and most of what I remember is crying and trying to hide under the seats.
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For me the best procession music of the day was the Scottish and Irish bagpipes and drums. The bearskins brass band didn't compare.

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For me the best procession music of the day was the Scottish and Irish bagpipes and drums. The bearskins brass band didn't compare.

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Thanks Vixen. I did a bit of a search on Monday, unsuccessful, to find the name of that music. Now I know.
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Hell with that tame stuff.

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Thanks Vixen. I did a bit of a search on Monday, unsuccessful, to find the name of that music. Now I know.
MP3 version here by a US band:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T...serve_Band.mp3
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Hell with that tame stuff.

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Are you suggesting that these concert hall ditties are not "tame"? Sure not in the same league as any massed pipes and drums.
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Will people stop bumping this thread. It keeps making me think she has arisen to become our saviour!

As far as we know she is still dead.
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Headline in The Beaverton, a satirical web site:

Canada to honour the Queen by shutting off all hospital ventilators for 96 seconds
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