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Old 1st October 2022, 01:11 AM   #2441
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Here's a good map showing the changes in Ukrainian sovereign territory this week. The orcs mumbled something about a fake "vote" or something but no one cares what they think.
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Old 1st October 2022, 01:17 AM   #2442
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Originally Posted by Stellafane View Post
The demise of the vile Russian state cannot come fast enough for many, many reasons. But one minor benefit to which I'm looking forward is that it will hopefully put a dent in the fetid stupidity and lies that their most mindless supporters keep parroting.
Have these people ever given you the slightest reason so presume that their mind can be swayed by real-world facts?
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Old 1st October 2022, 01:30 AM   #2443
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https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/49.0206/38.0027

As of this morning Lyman is not completely encircled. However the Deep State map (a fairly conservative source) puts the Ukrainian FLOT within about 400 meters of the last MSR going into the city. That means Ukraine can take the MSR under direct fires and infantry mortars.

Denys thinks there are about 3000 enemy troops in Lyman, two local regiments and a Russian infantry regiment. I'm not sure what he based that on or that Ukraine knows (or even the Russian commanders know) how many troops they have left. In addition to casualties, I'm sure there have been surrenders and desertions a plenty.

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Old 1st October 2022, 02:34 AM   #2444
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
^ This is Mad Max territory.
Yes, the behavior of the Russians in occupied Ukraine is not too dissimilar to how people behave in those movies. Good observation.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:09 AM   #2445
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The ultimate irony is that Russia is now murdering the people it claims as its own, people whom they notionally invaded Ukraine to save. Previously the Russians always dishonestly argued that they were Ukrainian citizens and falsely claimed that it was an "internal conflict" in Ukraine which they had nothing to do with.

All for one and one for none.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:17 AM   #2446
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The Siege of Lyman in which Russians are surrounded by Ukrainian troops:

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As many as 5,000 Russian troops could be currently trapped in Lyman, and its recapture by Ukraine would be one of Russia's worst military defeats since the start of its invasion on 24 February.

It would allow Ukrainian troops to completely mop up the northern part of the Donetsk region and move further into neighbouring Luhansk region.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:19 AM   #2447
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UK Ministry of Defence believes the 30 people killed in an humanitarian aid convoy were the victims of Russia, who used high worth missiles normally used to bring down planes. It reckons therefore, that the Russian military is severely short of ground missiles.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:33 AM   #2448
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
The Siege of Lyman in which Russians are surrounded by Ukrainian troops:

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We have ourselves a motti!
I'd still watch what is happening in Kherson as well. It's far slower, but the screws are continuously tightening. And with very few routes out.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:35 AM   #2449
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Does the Nazi know that Lord Humungus dies at the end of Road Warrior?
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:43 AM   #2450
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Does the Nazi know that Lord Humungus dies at the end of Road Warrior?
He’s not gonna die in a head-on collision with an 18 wheeler. I see a suicide in a bunker.
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
He’s not gonna die in a head-on collision with an 18 wheeler. I see a suicide in a bunker.
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Old 1st October 2022, 03:53 AM   #2452
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Those interested in the parallels of Nazi Germany annexing the Sudetenland (the then Czechoslovakia) on the same day 84 years ago as Putin's criminal state annexing the Donbass region, might enjoy this thread:

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Today in 1938 at the Munich Conference, Britain & France agreed to Hitler's annexation of around 20% of Czechoslovakia.
The annexed territory lay along the German-Czech border which Hitler insisted had been historically part of Greater Germany.
https://twitter.com/thehistoryguy/st...D28SeA3w1W0IXg

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Old 1st October 2022, 03:58 AM   #2453
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
He’s not gonna die in a head-on collision with an 18 wheeler. I see a suicide in a bunker.
We know it's almost over when the Nazi **** twit marries the girlfriend.
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Old 1st October 2022, 05:59 AM   #2454
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So, it looks like Lyman is liberated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...etaken_by_the/
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Old 1st October 2022, 06:00 AM   #2455
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Those interested in the parallels of Nazi Germany annexing the Sudetenland (the then Czechoslovakia) on the same day 84 years ago as Putin's criminal state annexing the Donbass region, might enjoy this thread:

https://twitter.com/thehistoryguy/st...D28SeA3w1W0IXg

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Given the forces in play... would be totally unsurprising if it wasn't a coincidence at all, but rather an opportunistic dog whistle.
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Old 1st October 2022, 06:18 AM   #2456
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Another day, another Russian war crime, another civilian convoy attacked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share
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https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/30-sep...-in-drobysheve

https://deepstatemap.live/en#11.5/48.9766/37.8998

Live Map and Deep State have Ukrainian troops entering Lyman but not that it's liberated yet. Thus far both have been fairly conservative about what they add to the maps and have a demonstrated track record of accuracy. Live Map has the town surrounded and Ukrainians entering the city from the north east and south east. The city will likely be liberated and free of occupying forces by the end of the weekend.

The next big story should be Severodonetsk. There are no militarily significant terrain features between Lyman and the north/south MSR connecting Severodonetsk to Belgorod. Once Ukraine gets to that road, the east/west MSR will come under their artillery fire. Once that happens, it's a matter of time before Severodonetsk falls. That's a huge salient into Luhansk that could cut the break away sections in two.
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Old 1st October 2022, 08:24 AM   #2458
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The BBC is saying that Russian troops have withdrawn from Lyman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share
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Old 1st October 2022, 08:35 AM   #2459
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Interesting set of post originating from Wagner affiliated (?) Gray Zone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...f_the_russian/

Apparently the situation in and around Lyman was FUBAR yesterday already, but because of Putin's speech ...
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Hey, CE, your "annexation" is turning into a complete cluster ****.
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Old 1st October 2022, 08:59 AM   #2461
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Is it a counter-offensive yet?
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I wonder how close we are to seeing the cutover from "Russia's special military operation is succeeding, don't be fooled by their crafty deception operations and false western propaganda" to "Russia would have prevailed if NATO hadn't lifted one finger against them, while leaving its other hand tied behind its back"?
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Cheap shot, I know, but they are now quite literally self-destructing:

https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/st...32345278947330

Edit: I believe that's somewhere around Sevastopol.

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Old 1st October 2022, 09:17 AM   #2465
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Russia is claiming its troops withdrew from Lyman. I wonder whether that's a lie to cover up the fact that they surrendered.
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Old 1st October 2022, 09:21 AM   #2466
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Originally Posted by Olmstead View Post
Cheap shot, I know, but they are now quite literally self-destructing:

https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/st...32345278947330

Edit: I believe that's somewhere around Sevastopol.
That's close to Sevastopol so with any luck, it was a Ukrainian attack. Maybe partisan or special forces? If the Russian squatters who moved there think it was an attack, that's just as good. A flow of Russians leaving Crimea only helps Ukraine.
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How long before it's realized that Normally Victorious Russia was

STABBED IN THE BACK!

by agents of the interNATOist conspiracy working in the shadows -- shadows cast by the glaring lights of Broadway! I mean Wall Street!

Oooooh, there'll be a reckoning! We'll make 'em pay!
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Russia is claiming its troops withdrew from Lyman. I wonder whether that's a lie to cover up the fact that they surrendered.
They withdrew to a POW camp.
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Russia is claiming its troops withdrew from Lyman. I wonder whether that's a lie to cover up the fact that they surrendered.
It's all a part of that clever Russian trap we were told of. It will be sprung any minute now. The have the Ukraine army right where they want them.
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Russia is claiming its troops withdrew from Lyman. I wonder whether that's a lie to cover up the fact that they surrendered.
Another cunning ruse to lure Ukraine into yet another trap.

Edited to add....

Ninja'd by Steve, great minds and all that

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One of the nice young men who gave a speech at Nuremburg Red Square the other day was Ivan Okhlobystin, formerly an actor.

He gave a nice speech calling for a Holy War.

Here he is making a Nazi salute.

Here's the time he called for gay people to be burned in gas chambers.

But by all means, let's keep insisting that the Ukrainians are the Nazis here, what with their Jewish President and tolerance for gay and transgender people.
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One of the nice young men who gave a speech at Nuremburg Red Square the other day was Ivan Okhlobystin, formerly an actor.

He gave a nice speech calling for a Holy War.

Here he is making a Nazi salute.

Here's the time he called for gay people to be burned in gas chambers.

But by all means, let's keep insisting that the Ukrainians are the Nazis here, what with their Jewish President and tolerance for gay and transgender people.
That's how cunning (((they))) are, pretending to be Jewish and tolerant to fool those in the West whilst those Russians who superficially appear to be Nazis cannot be because no-one would ever do that
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Is it a counter-offensive yet?
No, it will only count as a counter offensive when Ukraine's pre 2014 borders are restored and it must all be by force and without any Russian retreats, otherwise it's just Ukraine stumbling into a cunningly laid Russian trap.
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I can see Putin having such disregard for his own military that he orders a strike on an area where many of them happen to be, just to get at the Ukrainians.
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No, it will only count as a counter offensive when Ukraine's pre 2014 borders are restored and it must all be by force and without any Russian retreats, otherwise it's just Ukraine stumbling into a cunningly laid Russian trap.
Honestly, if the Russians lay enough clever traps, they may be home in time for Christmas!
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It is a pity that the photo is in black and white. His suspenders seem to be black-red-gold colored, as in the German Federal flag. Nazi-salute + black-red-gold
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That's close to Sevastopol so with any luck, it was a Ukrainian attack. Maybe partisan or special forces? If the Russian squatters who moved there think it was an attack, that's just as good. A flow of Russians leaving Crimea only helps Ukraine.
It looks like it was genuinely a plane overshooting the runway.

In Putin's Russia, military targets destroy themselves.
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How long before it's realized that Normally Victorious Russia was

STABBED IN THE BACK!

by agents of the interNATOist conspiracy working in the shadows -- shadows cast by the glaring lights of Broadway! I mean Wall Street!

Oooooh, there'll be a reckoning! We'll make 'em pay!
They might need another scapegoat to make that work.

I'm thinking they need some Jewish Nazis.
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They withdrew to a POW camp.
An orderly, strategic withdraw...
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As a goodwill gesture . . .
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