[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 27 - Page 54

Ladewig · 6th March 2021, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

If he's smart

Well, there’s your problem

Quote:

(or can follow a smart playbook)

Well there’s your other problem.

Trump is merely an uncreative two-bit grifter who made it into the major leagues by being able to change his patter to suit his audience. But he is not wily enough or shrewd enough to run the clever cons. He wastes what little energy he has attacking real or imagined enemies without understanding how to make alliances or even understanding how and when to ignore someone.

He is entirely transaction oriented, but he is too dim-witted to even grasp the value of long-term transactionalism.

Bob001 · 6th March 2021, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

.....
As you note, in the deep south, if Trump supported a peanut butter sandwich, it would win.
.....

Against many Repub candidates, the peanut butter sandwich would be the better choice.

Armitage72 · 6th March 2021, 01:56 PM

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

Skeptic Ginger · 6th March 2021, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

Oh my word! Bet McConnell's pissed.

The sad thing is Trump can rip off as many donors as he can con.

Bob001 · 6th March 2021, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

That appears to be literally true.

Quote:

In filings with the Federal Election Commission, he converted both his presidential campaign committee, Donald J. Trump for President, and his leadership PAC, Save America, into two political action committees that can support other candidates for office. Trump's campaign committee has become the Make America Great Again PAC -- or MAGA PAC.

"There's only one way to contribute to our efforts to elect America First Republican conservatives, and in turn to make America great again, and that's through Save America PAC and DonaldJTrump.com," Trump said during his remarks to the Conservative Political Action Conference last week.

Stacyhs · 6th March 2021, 08:29 PM

MAGA: My America Grifter Association

SezMe · 6th March 2021, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

IANAL but I doubt that usage of an ex-president's image and name can be restricted.

Skeptic Ginger · 6th March 2021, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by SezMe

IANAL but I doubt that usage of an ex-president's image and name can be restricted.

Except Trump has been using his name/brand for decades. I'm guessing he has it trademarked.

Norman Alexander · 6th March 2021, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Except Trump has been using his name/brand for decades. I'm guessing he has it trademarked.

Then he better not change his face. And the word "trump" is both a noun and a verb in other contexts, and probably can't be trademarked as a result.

Norman Alexander · 6th March 2021, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

What would happen if they told him to stick it up his jacksie?

Skeptic Ginger · 6th March 2021, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Then he better not change his face. And the word "trump" is both a noun and a verb in other contexts, and probably can't be trademarked as a result.

I'm pretty sure you can't market something using the POTUS name/image. Being in the public domain for satire or a news report are different situations.

KGSW Law: you can't use Trump in your brand either.

Quote:

So why has the USPTO refused to register any trademark with the Trump name, without Donald or Ivanka Trump’s personal written consent? It’s because the Trademark Act and numerous decisions by the USPTO’s Trademark Trial and Appeal Board have consistently held that a trademark registration will be refused if the mark consists of a name, portrait or signature identifying a particular living individual, unless that individual provides his or her written consent.

But I believe you can set up a PAC to raise money for Trump's campaign but not give him any of the money.

Fast Eddie B · Yesterday, 06:58 AM

I remember a test case where a fellow named McDonald could not legally use his own name for a restaurant.

I’d also think Trump can prohibit use of his name or likeness in any way that seems to promote or endorse a particular product or cause without his consent. But I assume it’s complicated. I expect either the Leagal Eagle or Opening Arguments, or both, to opine on this in the near future.

Delphic Oracle · Yesterday, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

I remember a test case where a fellow named McDonald could not legally use his own name for a restaurant.

I’d also think Trump can prohibit use of his name or likeness in any way that seems to promote or endorse a particular product or cause without his consent. But I assume it’s complicated. I expect either the Leagal Eagle or Opening Arguments, or both, to opine on this in the near future.

For commercial purposes, that all holds.

A former office holder being able to control name and likeness (or license it for a fee?) in communications from a political committee (tightly controlled in other ways), especially campaign and party organizations, is ominous to me.

Bob001 · Yesterday, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

For commercial purposes, that all holds.

A former office holder being able to control name and likeness (or license it for a fee?) in communications from a political committee (tightly controlled in other ways), especially campaign and party organizations, is ominous to me.

Why? If they're raising money by falsely claiming to represent him or that he endorses them, it looks like a pretty straightforward fraud issue. Why ominous?

Delphic Oracle · Yesterday, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Why? If they're raising money by falsely claiming to represent him or that he endorses them, it looks like a pretty straightforward fraud issue. Why ominous?

Are the claims false?

That would fall under defamation, anyways.

This issue is treating a political figure's identity and descriptions of their political positions like intellectual property. That goes into a rabbit hole of ownership, transfer of this IP or parts of it to other owners, licensing platforms.

Not sure I like private interests potentially deciding who can say what about which public office holder (not already addressed by other civil or criminal penalties).

bruto · Yesterday, 09:17 AM

It seems a little odd, but maybe it is just part of a new level of hypernarcissistic apotheosis. So the Republican party, until now acting as mindless puppets to support the reprehensible stupidity of the administration, must now, it seems, say "We still stand with that guy whose name is so awesome we cannot speak it."

Ladewig · Yesterday, 09:18 AM

This is more of a desire than a citation of law, but I think it would be awesome if the court said, “if you are trying to protect your trademark, then you need to put a (tm) next to your name every time you use it in any fundraising material.”

Delphic Oracle · Yesterday, 10:18 AM

If he believes there is commercial use of his name/image by political committees, the venue would be FEC. An FEC decision could then be challenged in a suit.

If he believes the use is not commercial, case dismissed. Political organizations (not found in violation of prohibitions against commercial activity) have different leeway.

Maybe this will change as "political activity" and "intellectual property" are always being weighed and balanced, but any major precedent reversals are likely a decade or so out if someone is just now spinning up some cease-and-desist.

It does trap the RNC. Concede fundraising on Trump to Trump only (unless he gets a cut?) or give Trumo ammunition to portray himself as victim of a corrupt RNC.

RolandRat · Yesterday, 10:19 AM

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-said...130653895.html

Trump said he would travel the 5,000 miles from Mar-a-Lago to Alaska to bury the political career of GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski in revenge for her impeachment vote.

"I will not be endorsing, under any circumstances, the failed candidate from the great State of Alaska, Lisa Murkowski. She represents her state badly and her country even worse, Trump told Politico.

"I do not know where other people will be next year, but I know where I will be - in Alaska campaigning against a disloyal and very bad Senator."

Trebuchet · Yesterday, 10:21 AM

Murkowski already got primaried once. She came back and won as a write-in.

The Great Zaganza · Yesterday, 10:48 AM

And Alaska now has a Ranked Voice, neutered Primary system that makes it utterly irrelevant what Trump wants.

Ladewig · Yesterday, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

And Alaska now has a Ranked Voice, neutered Primary system that makes it utterly irrelevant what Trump wants.

President Trump wasting his time far away from home.
The very idea warms my heart.

Babbylonian · Yesterday, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by RolandRat

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-said...130653895.html

Trump said he would travel the 5,000 miles from Mar-a-Lago to Alaska to bury the political career of GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski in revenge for her impeachment vote.

"I will not be endorsing, under any circumstances, the failed candidate from the great State of Alaska, Lisa Murkowski. She represents her state badly and her country even worse, Trump told Politico.

"I do not know where other people will be next year, but I know where I will be - in Alaska campaigning against a disloyal and very bad Senator."

There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason.

shemp · Yesterday, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason.

Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing.

Aridas · Yesterday, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

It seems a little odd, but maybe it is just part of a new level of hypernarcissistic apotheosis. So the Republican party, until now acting as mindless puppets to support the reprehensible stupidity of the administration, must now, it seems, say "We still stand with that guy whose name is so awesome we cannot speak it."

Or, in more common parlance - He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, who happens to be very well known in the Harry Potter stories. Given the long-standing pleasure that Trumpy Republican politicians seem to take in associating themselves with the villainous side, some of them might actually have fun making that exact invocation. A bit like they did with Senator Kelly (X-Men) and the Death Star.

Bob001 · Yesterday, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason.

Except if he sees a way to make money.

Trebuchet · Yesterday, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

"This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit?

Skeptic Ginger · Yesterday, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit?

He sucked up all the life in the RNC. They either need to break free or do like Graham, kiss his ass.

Classic example of be careful what you wish for.

Segnosaur · Yesterday, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Quote:

Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising.

You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit?

He may be a private individual now, but a short while ago he was president, and he only obtained that position because he had been a member (and received the backing of) the Republican party. I can certainly understand the republicans in the party thinking "We helped campaign for Trump in 2016, we voted to confirm Drunky McRapeface and the Stepford Wife, we voted against impeachment twice...I think its valid associating his name with our party."

Segnosaur · Yesterday, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Quote:

There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason.

Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing.

Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm.

Stacyhs · Yesterday, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm.

I'd pay to see that. And will that be before or after Junior pays to kill wolves from a helicopter?

arthwollipot · Yesterday, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm.

And you thought... he smelled bad... on the outside.

dirtywick · Yesterday, 08:15 PM

I bet Eric smells like someone who eats cereal in bed, spills it all over, but never changes the sheets

Norman Alexander · Yesterday, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing.

There's room for jokes about Qnut lemmings here, following T**** over a cliff to their slow agonising deaths far away in the frozen wastes.*

* Yeah, I know this is completely false and made up by the Disney team. Just let it ride, OK?

Ladewig · Today, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by dirtywick

I bet Eric smells like someone who eats cereal in bed, spills it all over, but never changes the sheets

Is that a euphemism?

Wait. I don’t want to know.

Horatius · Today, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

If he believes there is commercial use of his name/image by political committees, the venue would be FEC. An FEC decision could then be challenged in a suit.

If he believes the use is not commercial, case dismissed. Political organizations (not found in violation of prohibitions against commercial activity) have different leeway.

Trump, of course, sees no distinction between "commercial use" and "political use". Everything is about the money, and all the money belongs to him.

I hope he does manage to suck up a lot of the fundraising that would have otherwise gone to the party, because then, every dollar he steals from it won't be used to support the party in 2022 and 2024. Anything that hurts their abilities in these elections can only be considered a good thing.

Fast Eddie B · Today, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit?

Seeing the flip side, could the DNC be prohibited from using Trump's likeness or words in their advertising?

The Great Zaganza · Today, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

Seeing the flip side, could the DNC be prohibited from using Trump's likeness or words in their advertising?

an excellent point IMO.
But I guess the RNC and Republicans don't really want to a legal battle with Trump.
Trump has won most of his cases by making winning against him a Pyrrhic victory.

Skeptic Ginger · Today, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

Seeing the flip side, could the DNC be prohibited from using Trump's likeness or words in their advertising?

That's a good point. I get fundraising emails all the time listing Trump's latest outrage as the reason I must donate.

6th March 2021, 04:35 AM	#2121
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,044	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle If he's smart Well, there’s your problem Quote: (or can follow a smart playbook) Well there’s your other problem. Trump is merely an uncreative two-bit grifter who made it into the major leagues by being able to change his patter to suit his audience. But he is not wily enough or shrewd enough to run the clever cons. He wastes what little energy he has attacking real or imagined enemies without understanding how to make alliances or even understanding how and when to ignore someone. He is entirely transaction oriented, but he is too dim-witted to even grasp the value of long-term transactionalism.
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6th March 2021, 12:52 PM	#2122
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,664	Originally Posted by SezMe ..... As you note, in the deep south, if Trump supported a peanut butter sandwich, it would win. ..... Against many Repub candidates, the peanut butter sandwich would be the better choice.
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6th March 2021, 02:25 PM	#2124
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,013	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me." Oh my word! Bet McConnell's pissed. The sad thing is Trump can rip off as many donors as he can con.
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6th March 2021, 11:05 PM	#2129
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,815	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Except Trump has been using his name/brand for decades. I'm guessing he has it trademarked. Then he better not change his face. And the word "trump" is both a noun and a verb in other contexts, and probably can't be trademarked as a result.
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6th March 2021, 11:06 PM	#2130
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,815	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me." What would happen if they told him to stick it up his jacksie?
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6th March 2021, 01:56 PM	#2123
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,263	Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me."

6th March 2021, 03:10 PM	#2125
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,664	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me." That appears to be literally true. Quote: In filings with the Federal Election Commission, he converted both his presidential campaign committee, Donald J. Trump for President, and his leadership PAC, Save America, into two political action committees that can support other candidates for office. Trump's campaign committee has become the Make America Great Again PAC -- or MAGA PAC. "There's only one way to contribute to our efforts to elect America First Republican conservatives, and in turn to make America great again, and that's through Save America PAC and DonaldJTrump.com," Trump said during his remarks to the Conservative Political Action Conference last week.

6th March 2021, 08:29 PM	#2126
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,029	MAGA: My America Grifter Association

6th March 2021, 09:54 PM	#2127
SezMe post-pre-born Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 25,004	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me." IANAL but I doubt that usage of an ex-president's image and name can be restricted.

6th March 2021, 10:02 PM	#2128
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,013	Originally Posted by SezMe IANAL but I doubt that usage of an ex-president's image and name can be restricted. Except Trump has been using his name/brand for decades. I'm guessing he has it trademarked.

6th March 2021, 11:22 PM	#2131
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,013	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Then he better not change his face. And the word "trump" is both a noun and a verb in other contexts, and probably can't be trademarked as a result. I'm pretty sure you can't market something using the POTUS name/image. Being in the public domain for satire or a news report are different situations. KGSW Law: you can't use Trump in your brand either. Quote: So why has the USPTO refused to register any trademark with the Trump name, without Donald or Ivanka Trump’s personal written consent? It’s because the Trademark Act and numerous decisions by the USPTO’s Trademark Trial and Appeal Board have consistently held that a trademark registration will be refused if the mark consists of a name, portrait or signature identifying a particular living individual, unless that individual provides his or her written consent. But I believe you can set up a PAC to raise money for Trump's campaign but not give him any of the money.
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Yesterday, 06:58 AM	#2132
Fast Eddie B Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lenoir City, TN/Mineral Bluff, GA Posts: 6,749	I remember a test case where a fellow named McDonald could not legally use his own name for a restaurant. I’d also think Trump can prohibit use of his name or likeness in any way that seems to promote or endorse a particular product or cause without his consent. But I assume it’s complicated. I expect either the Leagal Eagle or Opening Arguments, or both, to opine on this in the near future.

Yesterday, 07:42 AM	#2133
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,372	Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B I remember a test case where a fellow named McDonald could not legally use his own name for a restaurant. I’d also think Trump can prohibit use of his name or likeness in any way that seems to promote or endorse a particular product or cause without his consent. But I assume it’s complicated. I expect either the Leagal Eagle or Opening Arguments, or both, to opine on this in the near future. For commercial purposes, that all holds. A former office holder being able to control name and likeness (or license it for a fee?) in communications from a political committee (tightly controlled in other ways), especially campaign and party organizations, is ominous to me.

Yesterday, 08:21 AM	#2134
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,664	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle For commercial purposes, that all holds. A former office holder being able to control name and likeness (or license it for a fee?) in communications from a political committee (tightly controlled in other ways), especially campaign and party organizations, is ominous to me. Why? If they're raising money by falsely claiming to represent him or that he endorses them, it looks like a pretty straightforward fraud issue. Why ominous?

Yesterday, 08:44 AM	#2135
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,372	Originally Posted by Bob001 Why? If they're raising money by falsely claiming to represent him or that he endorses them, it looks like a pretty straightforward fraud issue. Why ominous? Are the claims false? That would fall under defamation, anyways. This issue is treating a political figure's identity and descriptions of their political positions like intellectual property. That goes into a rabbit hole of ownership, transfer of this IP or parts of it to other owners, licensing platforms. Not sure I like private interests potentially deciding who can say what about which public office holder (not already addressed by other civil or criminal penalties).

Yesterday, 09:17 AM	#2136
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 27,792	It seems a little odd, but maybe it is just part of a new level of hypernarcissistic apotheosis. So the Republican party, until now acting as mindless puppets to support the reprehensible stupidity of the administration, must now, it seems, say "We still stand with that guy whose name is so awesome we cannot speak it."
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Yesterday, 09:18 AM	#2137
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,044	This is more of a desire than a citation of law, but I think it would be awesome if the court said, “if you are trying to protect your trademark, then you need to put a (tm) next to your name every time you use it in any fundraising material.”
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Yesterday, 10:18 AM	#2138
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 5,372	If he believes there is commercial use of his name/image by political committees, the venue would be FEC. An FEC decision could then be challenged in a suit. If he believes the use is not commercial, case dismissed. Political organizations (not found in violation of prohibitions against commercial activity) have different leeway. Maybe this will change as "political activity" and "intellectual property" are always being weighed and balanced, but any major precedent reversals are likely a decade or so out if someone is just now spinning up some cease-and-desist. It does trap the RNC. Concede fundraising on Trump to Trump only (unless he gets a cut?) or give Trumo ammunition to portray himself as victim of a corrupt RNC.

Yesterday, 10:19 AM	#2139
RolandRat Muse Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 931	https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-said...130653895.html Trump said he would travel the 5,000 miles from Mar-a-Lago to Alaska to bury the political career of GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski in revenge for her impeachment vote. "I will not be endorsing, under any circumstances, the failed candidate from the great State of Alaska, Lisa Murkowski. She represents her state badly and her country even worse, Trump told Politico. "I do not know where other people will be next year, but I know where I will be - in Alaska campaigning against a disloyal and very bad Senator."
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Yesterday, 10:21 AM	#2140
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,066	Murkowski already got primaried once. She came back and won as a write-in.
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Yesterday, 10:48 AM	#2141
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,686	And Alaska now has a Ranked Voice, neutered Primary system that makes it utterly irrelevant what Trump wants.
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Yesterday, 12:17 PM	#2142
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,044	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza And Alaska now has a Ranked Voice, neutered Primary system that makes it utterly irrelevant what Trump wants. President Trump wasting his time far away from home. The very idea warms my heart.
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Yesterday, 12:17 PM	#2143
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,502	Originally Posted by RolandRat https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-said...130653895.html Trump said he would travel the 5,000 miles from Mar-a-Lago to Alaska to bury the political career of GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski in revenge for her impeachment vote. "I will not be endorsing, under any circumstances, the failed candidate from the great State of Alaska, Lisa Murkowski. She represents her state badly and her country even worse, Trump told Politico. "I do not know where other people will be next year, but I know where I will be - in Alaska campaigning against a disloyal and very bad Senator." There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason.

Yesterday, 12:38 PM	#2144
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 40,328	Originally Posted by Babbylonian There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason. Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing.
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Yesterday, 12:45 PM	#2145
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,469	Originally Posted by bruto It seems a little odd, but maybe it is just part of a new level of hypernarcissistic apotheosis. So the Republican party, until now acting as mindless puppets to support the reprehensible stupidity of the administration, must now, it seems, say "We still stand with that guy whose name is so awesome we cannot speak it." Or, in more common parlance - He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, who happens to be very well known in the Harry Potter stories. Given the long-standing pleasure that Trumpy Republican politicians seem to take in associating themselves with the villainous side, some of them might actually have fun making that exact invocation. A bit like they did with Senator Kelly (X-Men) and the Death Star.
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Yesterday, 02:52 PM	#2146
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,664	Originally Posted by Babbylonian There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason. Except if he sees a way to make money.

Yesterday, 04:17 PM	#2147
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,066	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. "This is my party. If you want money, you have to get it directly from me." You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit?
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Yesterday, 04:51 PM	#2148
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,013	Originally Posted by Trebuchet You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit? He sucked up all the life in the RNC. They either need to break free or do like Graham, kiss his ass. Classic example of be careful what you wish for.

Yesterday, 06:16 PM	#2149
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,127	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Quote: Trump's lawyers have sent cease-and-desist letters to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee to stop them from using his name and likeness in their fundraising. You know, this seems entirely reasonable to me. He's a private individual. Why should the RNC be able to use his name and image for their own benefit? He may be a private individual now, but a short while ago he was president, and he only obtained that position because he had been a member (and received the backing of) the Republican party. I can certainly understand the republicans in the party thinking "We helped campaign for Trump in 2016, we voted to confirm Drunky McRapeface and the Stepford Wife, we voted against impeachment twice...I think its valid associating his name with our party."
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Yesterday, 06:19 PM	#2150
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,127	Originally Posted by shemp Quote: There is absolutely no chance that Trump will be in Alaska next year, for any reason. Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing. Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm.
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Yesterday, 08:11 PM	#2151
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,029	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm. I'd pay to see that. And will that be before or after Junior pays to kill wolves from a helicopter?

Yesterday, 08:14 PM	#2152
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 70,300	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Yeah but then Trump Jr. or Eric will try to stuff themselves inside his bloated corpse as a way to stay warm. And you thought... he smelled bad... on the outside.
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Yesterday, 08:15 PM	#2153
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,140	I bet Eric smells like someone who eats cereal in bed, spills it all over, but never changes the sheets
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Yesterday, 11:26 PM	#2154
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,815	Originally Posted by shemp Exactly my thoughts, though the idea of him freezing to death in the tundra is appealing. There's room for jokes about Qnut lemmings here, following T**** over a cliff to their slow agonising deaths far away in the frozen wastes.* * Yeah, I know this is completely false and made up by the Disney team. Just let it ride, OK?
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Today, 04:25 AM	#2155
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,044	Originally Posted by dirtywick I bet Eric smells like someone who eats cereal in bed, spills it all over, but never changes the sheets Is that a euphemism? Wait. I don’t want to know.
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