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Old 3rd February 2021, 06:47 AM   #1
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Britain's next PM

Can't see how Boris will recover from the mishandling of Covid.

When he steps down, or if there's a leadership challenge forcing him to, who do you reckon will take over from him ?
Sunak ? Too close perhaps ?
Raab ?
Mogg ? Too slimy, but he's kept his head down this last 12 months.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 08:57 AM   #2
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The bookies have it
Sunak 2-1
Starmer 2-1
Gove 13/2
Raab 10-1
Hunt 10-1
Others 15-1 upwards

Mogg has no chance.

If we assume that Johnson's leaving before the next election is a given then you'd have to adjust the odds to reflect Starmer's absence from the race.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 09:04 AM   #3
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Some are touting Elizabeth Truss. What a nightmare the UK finds itself in!
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Old 3rd February 2021, 09:07 AM   #4
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Sunak - if we can't have a posh Etonian, we will go for money!
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Old 3rd February 2021, 09:47 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
Some are touting Elizabeth Truss. What a nightmare the UK finds itself in!
Who ?

It's not something I've heard.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 10:04 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Who ?

It's not something I've heard.
New European were bigging up Truss for promotion come the reshuiffle. Anyone in a senior post can be a leadership contender.

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Liz Truss is tipped to receive a more senior role in government after Boris Johnson seeks to promote more female ministers in the next reshuffle.

The international trade secretary is likely to join Kemi Badenoch, Lucy Frazer, Gillian Keegan and Victoria Atkins in receiving boosts in the next reshuffle, the Daily Mail reports.

Housing secretary Robert Jenrick and policing minister Kit Malthouse are also favoured to be rewarded for their efforts defending the government in television interviews.

Johnson could also aim to quieten backbench rebellions by promoting lockdown critics Steve Baker and Sir Graham Brady.

As previously reported home secretary Priti Patel could be demoted in the move, while Sajid Javid could also return to cabinet.

The measures could come in June after local elections in May, and come after allies Carrie Symonds and Allegra Stratton encouraging the prime minister to refresh his top team.

A source told the newspaper: "Boris has a woman problem. The only way you solve that is to put more women in the top jobs".

Truss was rated the best-performing government minister by a recent poll of Tory members.
And from Political Betting:

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Liz Truss moves from a 100/1 shot for next PM to 33/1 in just two weeks – politicalbetting.com
Remember Liz Truss called for the abolition of the monarchy at her party conference in 1994.
I won't include the url for this site as a message came up saying CONGRATULATIONS YOU HAVE WON A MILLION POUNDS!!! With lots of confetti and balloons, which I exited fast and got the above as a quote instead.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 10:56 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Who ?

It's not something I've heard.
Liz Truss is the current secretary of state for international trade.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 10:58 AM   #8
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Ask Murdoch who he wants. It'll be whoever that is.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 11:53 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Airfix View Post
Can't see how Boris will recover from the mishandling of Covid.

When he steps down, or if there's a leadership challenge forcing him to, who do you reckon will take over from him ?
Sunak ? Too close perhaps ?
Raab ?
Mogg ? Too slimy, but he's kept his head down this last 12 months.
Recover from what? Boris is fine.

And whoever the next PM will be will be whoever the Tory party decide it will be.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 12:17 PM   #10
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It's probably in Boris's interests to stand down when this is over and say that Covid has taken it's toll on his health and that he's bowing out.

It's certainly taken it's toll on his polling.

Bowing out would save him from an embarrassing leadership challenge.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 12:25 PM   #11
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Ask Murdoch who he wants. It'll be whoever that is.
Nice.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 12:36 PM   #12
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I've never liked Rupert Murdoch, but I'm glad he's not suffered Covid, the sympathy headlines would be unbearable.
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Old 3rd February 2021, 03:36 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
Recover from what? Boris is fine.

And whoever the next PM will be will be whoever the Tory party decide it will be.

And when Labor has a majority, the next PM will be who Labor decides it will be.That's the way a Pure Parliamentary system works. The votres have only an indirect vote in National SHip.
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And when Labor has a majority, the next PM will be who Labor decides it will be.That's the way a Pure Parliamentary system works. The votres have only an indirect vote in National SHip.
There is no Labor Party in the UK.
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I've never liked Rupert Murdoch, but I'm glad he's not suffered Covid, the sympathy headlines would be unbearable.
We never liked Rupert Murdoch either. We made him an American citizen as punishment.
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Originally Posted by Airfix View Post
It's probably in Boris's interests to stand down when this is over and say that Covid has taken it's toll on his health and that he's bowing out.

It's certainly taken it's toll on his polling.

Bowing out would save him from an embarrassing leadership challenge.
He won't. And Labour will not force him to do that. He's the best champion for Labour that they have, frankly. The more Boris tries to wiffle-waffle his way out of this hell-hole he inhabits, the better it is for Starmer.
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Old 4th February 2021, 04:42 AM   #17
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Who ?

It's not something I've heard.
Liz "Pork Bellies" Truss, architect of the Japanese deal that allows us to export cheese to a lactose intolerant nation. She's the one who appears to have missed her true calling as a would be CeeBeebies presenter who failed the screen test, presumably with that awful video from last summer where she stood infront of a greenscreen waving a steering wheel about and pretending to drive while mugging & waving to 'passers by'. (I tried to find it, but search for "Liz Truss Car" on YouTube and you get a list of her interviews titled with "Car Crash")
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He won't. And Labour will not force him to do that. He's the best champion for Labour that they have, frankly. The more Boris tries to wiffle-waffle his way out of this hell-hole he inhabits, the better it is for Starmer.
Labour should want him out, pretty much no-one thinks he'll fight the next election so the goal should be to have the change over soon enough that his replacement doesn't get to fight the next election during their honeymoon period, and possibly more importantly doesn't get to distance themselves from previous government decisions as Johnson somehow managed to do in 2019.
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He won't.
We'll see.
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And Labour will not force him to do that.
No, but his own back benchers seeing the writing on the wall might.

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He's the best champion for Labour that they have, frankly. The more Boris tries to wiffle-waffle his way out of this hell-hole he inhabits, the better it is for Starmer.
Agreed.

He's presently sinking the Conservative party.
The 2024 election is still 3 years away, but that's not a long time and 100,000+ deaths from Covid will be hard to forget.
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There is no Labor Party in the UK.
That is the American spelling, and the way almost all US newspapers spell it.
Pedanty and nitpiciking.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
That is the American spelling, and the way almost all US newspapers spell it.
No it isn't, afaics.

I just checked the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal and USA Today before getting bored looking. They all use the word Labour.
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No it isn't, afaics.

I just checked the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal and USA Today before getting bored looking. They all use the word Labour.
The American spelling of the word is "labor", but the name remains "Labour Party".
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
The American spelling of the word is "labor", but the name remains "Labour Party".
I suspect we all know that.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
That is the American spelling, and the way almost all US newspapers spell it.
Flat-out false.

Look, I try to use the spelling Pearl Harbor. I think you could try to use the correct name of the party, and it is the spelling of the party name whatever country you are in.

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Pedantry and nitpiciking.
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The bookies have it
Sunak 2-1
[ . . . ]
Sunak would need to get the job before too much of that austerity or tax rises stuff, because it's going to make him look like Scrooge not Santa.

(Still, apparently the government has ruled out both of austerity and tax so p'raps no hurry to change jobs)
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