Dangerous Prisoner escapes with Prison Guard in Alabama - Page 4

Puppycow · 9th May 2022, 11:07 PM

Sad. I almost feel sorry for her. But not too sorry. She is the author of her own downfall.

bluesjnr · 10th May 2022, 12:53 AM

What a waste of a life that, up until she met him, seemed to be on the rails.

True love eh?

Puppycow · 10th May 2022, 02:30 AM

The heart wants what it wants I suppose. But sometimes the brain has to overrule the heart.

Darat · 10th May 2022, 06:29 AM

Find it funny the statement they got from the Sheriff:

"....It's hard to believe they've been here that many days, but we're lucky that we stumbled upon them today......,"

Good to know it was great police work that resulted in them being captured!

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 06:31 AM

♪♪♪♪♪ The road goes on forever and the party never ends ♪♪♪♪♪

catsmate · 10th May 2022, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Catsmate suggests this view has now been debunked.

It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?

"Uh sir, phrenology was dismissed as quackery 160 years ago."
"Of course you'd say that! You have the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter!"

RecoveringYuppy · 10th May 2022, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?

I cited a link showing it's not debunked (after correcting the XYY vs XXY typo). What are you citing to contradict that?

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 07:13 AM

I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:

Quote:

One law enforcement source told CBS News that as investigators took Casey White into custody, he said, "She shot herself. I did not do it.

Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.

SuburbanTurkey · 10th May 2022, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Sad. I almost feel sorry for her. But not too sorry. She is the author of her own downfall.

To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.

Puppycow · 10th May 2022, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.

You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail?

SuburbanTurkey · 10th May 2022, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail?

Not much of a gotcha cause she failed in that regard too

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:

Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.

Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out.

Thermal · 10th May 2022, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about:

Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that.

Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.

Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up?

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out.

Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it.

Originally Posted by Thermal

Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up?

Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already.

They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say.

He also referred to her as "my wife":

Quote:

The U.S. Marshals Service said when Casey White came out of the car, he exclaimed: "Please help my wife. She just shot herself in the head, and I didn’t do it."

It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says.

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 09:07 AM

//crazy theory//

Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court?

Thermal · 10th May 2022, 09:22 AM

Also, "wife" may have been a Hail Mary distraction on the off chance the police didn't know who they really were and were chasing them on something else.

Or, dude was nuts (long shot, I know) and considered she and he spiritually bonded or some crazy ****.

Eta: a legit quickie marriage might be problematic from an ID point of view

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

//crazy theory//

Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court?

I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards.

She was hit with a few fraud charges.

I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that.

I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her.

Brainster · 10th May 2022, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.

AJAB?

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 10:27 AM

Some more minor details starting to come to light.

- Vicki White was on the phone with 911 during some or all of the chase. The details of that call have not, at this time to the best of my knowledge, been made public.
- Casey White has waived an extradiction hearing, saying he "wants to go back to Arkansas."
- Several weapons, wigs, and about 29,000 dollars in cash were on the couple's person or in the vehicle when they were captured.

Thermal · 10th May 2022, 10:33 AM

Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works.

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 10:54 AM

Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops?

They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up.

I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods.

Thermal · 10th May 2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops?

They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up.

I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon.

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I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there somewhere, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods.

This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash.

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon.

From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range.

I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily.

I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye.

Originally Posted by Thermal

This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash.

Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol.

shemp · 10th May 2022, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by plague311

From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range.

I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily.

I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye.

Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol.

Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.

plague311 · 10th May 2022, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.

Sure, anything is possible.

JoeMorgue · 10th May 2022, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.

Cop: "Sir we found 60,000 dollars in cash."
Captain: "Did you say 45,000 dollars in cash?"
Cop: "Yes Sir, 30,000 dollars in cash."

(Stolen from a meme with the same joke but with marijuana I saw once)

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

And…Ms. White has died.

Oh dear. So she never made it to the 'trials and errors' thread. Bye then, Vicky White.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it.

Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already.

They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say.

He also referred to her as "my wife":

It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says.

She probably called herself that.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards.

She was hit with a few fraud charges.

I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that.

I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her.

Not really. She was a complete control freak IMV.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works.

He is not very bright.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 01:07 AM

Police body cam of the arrest here (English subtitles available).

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Police Bodycam Footage of Casey & Vicky White Arrest & Crash Site. Evansville Indiana!

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
Casey White leaving Lauderdale County Courthouse - going to state prison.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/statu...59nae5mk8LOfhg

He didn't like State Prison. Casey Cole White wanted a county jail. Back to square one.

newyorkguy · 11th May 2022, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Police body cam of the arrest here (English subtitles available).

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Police Bodycam Footage of Casey & Vicky White Arrest & Crash Site. Evansville Indiana!

Fox News Digital made a public records request and got the recorded audio of a 911 call Vicky White made in the moments before the high speed chase ended in disaster. You can hear the 911 operator answering the call and White (who never responds to the 911 operator) yelling, "The air bags are gonna kill us!" It sounds like she's saying they should "get out and run." The cell phone she was using remains on for over six minutes and you can hear the voices of the police arriving at the scene. It's kind of an audio overlay for the body cam video linked by Vixen.

The audio isn't too clear but you can hear one of the officers, trying to extricate White from the wrecked vehicle, exclaim, "She's got a gun in her hand." That "her trigger finger is on the trigger." Pretty amazing stuff. Below is a link to an MSN news report that includes the audio.

MSN report

mgidm86 · 11th May 2022, 09:15 PM

Good riddance, next story!

wobs · 13th May 2022, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Exactly the same thing happened in Australia. Female prison guard helps hardened criminal lover escape.

They literally blasted their way out with explosives

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gibb

Or they could be a Prison Teacher:
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...eacher-jailed/
I remember this one happening, what with her prestending she had a bomb in her car.

Quote:

The court had been told that McAllister and Hardy, of Chaucer Street,

Hull, had walked out of jail together through 10 security gates without

being challenged. Then, to give him time to escape, she staged a bomb

hoax at a supermarket with a device made out of Smarties tubes, masking

tape, compost, and a calculator.

The dangerous fugitive was recaptured five days later after an armed

raid on a house in Morden, Surrey.

JoeMorgue · Today, 12:14 PM

Casey, Vicky White motel room has abnormally long waitlist

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According to a motel clerk, who wished to remain anonymous, as of last week, 65 to 70 people were waiting to stay in Room 150 at Motel 41, where Casey and Vicky White stayed while authorities nationwide conducted a manhunt for the pair.

https://whnt.com/news/manhunt-for-es...long-waitlist/

People are ******* weird.

BobTheCoward · Today, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Casey, Vicky White motel room has abnormally long waitlist

https://whnt.com/news/manhunt-for-es...long-waitlist/

People are ******* weird.

I bet 85% are weirdos with a podcast....the rest are normal sexual perverts.

plague311 · Today, 12:21 PM

Why would they be sexual perverts? Probably just crime junkies more than anything else.

I sat in the same chair Wild Bill did when I was in my mid-teens. It was neat.

BobTheCoward · Today, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by plague311

Why would they be sexual perverts? Probably just crime junkies more than anything else.

I sat in the same chair Wild Bill did when I was in my mid-teens. It was neat.

"normal sexual perverts" is the joke by contrasting with the phrase "weirdos with a podcast"

9th May 2022, 11:07 PM	#121
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10th May 2022, 12:53 AM	#122
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10th May 2022, 02:30 AM	#123
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10th May 2022, 06:29 AM	#124
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 101,809	Find it funny the statement they got from the Sheriff: "....It's hard to believe they've been here that many days, but we're lucky that we stumbled upon them today......," Good to know it was great police work that resulted in them being captured!
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10th May 2022, 06:31 AM	#125
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10th May 2022, 06:34 AM	#126
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 26,912	Originally Posted by Vixen Catsmate suggests this view has now been debunked. It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material?
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10th May 2022, 06:36 AM	#127
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	Originally Posted by catsmate It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material? "Uh sir, phrenology was dismissed as quackery 160 years ago." "Of course you'd say that! You have the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter!"
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10th May 2022, 06:52 AM	#128
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13,487	Originally Posted by catsmate It was debunked decades ago, soon after it was hypothesised. Why did you find it necessary to quote that dubious, and utterly false, material? I cited a link showing it's not debunked (after correcting the XYY vs XXY typo). What are you citing to contradict that?

10th May 2022, 07:13 AM	#129
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about: Quote: One law enforcement source told CBS News that as investigators took Casey White into custody, he said, "She shot herself. I did not do it. Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that. Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro.
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10th May 2022, 07:16 AM	#130
SuburbanTurkey Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 15,159	Originally Posted by Puppycow Sad. I almost feel sorry for her. But not too sorry. She is the author of her own downfall. To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost.
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10th May 2022, 07:28 AM	#131
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 26,942	Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey To be fair, she was a jailer. Nothing of value was lost. You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail?
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10th May 2022, 07:32 AM	#132
SuburbanTurkey Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 15,159	Originally Posted by Puppycow You don't think men like Casey White should be in jail? Not much of a gotcha cause she failed in that regard too
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10th May 2022, 07:32 AM	#133
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	Originally Posted by plague311 I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about: Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that. Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro. Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out.
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10th May 2022, 07:35 AM	#134
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 18,699	Originally Posted by plague311 I'm going to remain slightly skeptical on the "killed herself" part. Something about: Seems like maybe something he'd say if he, like, you know, did it. She could have been fighting with him to pull over, or something like that. Either way, she won't be able to tell us. As someone said, that sucks for her. Was a great person and employee up until this guy. Could have lived out the rest of her days relaxing somewhere. Waddling too and fro. Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up?
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10th May 2022, 08:29 AM	#135
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Sadly the only reason I disagree with you is the fact that they have absolutely zero reason to lie about or hide the fact that they shot her if that's how the events played out. Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it. Originally Posted by Thermal Presumably police would have run a GSR test on both her and Casey, which would clear that right up? Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already. They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say. He also referred to her as "my wife": Quote: The U.S. Marshals Service said when Casey White came out of the car, he exclaimed: "Please help my wife. She just shot herself in the head, and I didn’t do it." It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says.
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10th May 2022, 09:07 AM	#136
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	//crazy theory// Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court?
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10th May 2022, 09:22 AM	#137
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 18,699	Also, "wife" may have been a Hail Mary distraction on the off chance the police didn't know who they really were and were chasing them on something else. Or, dude was nuts (long shot, I know) and considered she and he spiritually bonded or some crazy ****. Eta: a legit quickie marriage might be problematic from an ID point of view
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10th May 2022, 09:29 AM	#138
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue //crazy theory// Quickie marriage so one or both of them could (try to) invoke spousal privileges in court? I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards. She was hit with a few fraud charges. I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that. I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her.
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10th May 2022, 09:39 AM	#139
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10th May 2022, 10:27 AM	#140
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	Some more minor details starting to come to light. - Vicki White was on the phone with 911 during some or all of the chase. The details of that call have not, at this time to the best of my knowledge, been made public. - Casey White has waived an extradiction hearing, saying he "wants to go back to Arkansas." - Several weapons, wigs, and about 29,000 dollars in cash were on the couple's person or in the vehicle when they were captured.
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10th May 2022, 10:33 AM	#141
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 18,699	Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works.
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10th May 2022, 10:54 AM	#142
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops? They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up. I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods.
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10th May 2022, 11:12 AM	#143
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 18,699	Originally Posted by plague311 Her being on the phone with 9/11 is curious. It took them being hit to stop, so I can't imagine they were really haggling on the phone for surrender details. Maybe he shot her in the head because she called the cops? They really tore through cash if she had the $90k that was reported earlier. About $60k in 10ish days? Although, it looks like they purchased a total of 3 vehicles, unless one was stolen. I suppose that adds up. I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon. Quote: I'm a little surprised at how little distance they covered. In 10 days I would have been at a dock or somewhere trying to use some of that cash to get me the hell out of there somewhere, or gone all Ruby Ridge on it and hidden out in a cabin in the woods. This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash.
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10th May 2022, 11:38 AM	#144
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	Originally Posted by Thermal I would expect that at least some cash was put in an electronically accessed place, so if you had to dump the car and run, you wouldn't be out the whole kitty. And definitely using burner cars, not $10k+ vehicles that you were planning to abandon soon. From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range. I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily. I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye. Originally Posted by Thermal This. A carefully planned bug out cabin retreat and getting there faster would have been key to pulling this off. And wearing a hat and long sleeve shirt or something at the car wash. Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol.
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10th May 2022, 12:28 PM	#145
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: People's Democratic Republic of Planet X Posts: 47,712	Originally Posted by plague311 From what I've read she withdrew a total of $90k from area banks. That's what she had in cash. He said he paid for 14 days of a hotel room, which I'd assume was in the $500-700 range (weekly rates are in the $300 range up here), and they bought a total of 3 vehicles. I didn't catch the age of the Cadillac but the SUV and the Ford F-150 had to be in the $5k/per vehicle range. I assumed they'd stay as far away from electronic banking as possible since neither really had a valid ID to use to open up an account, getting a pre-paid card would expose them pretty easily. I don't think they intended on abandoning any of the cars. The first one had mechanical issues (I think) and the second I'd think they planned to keep if they were washing it. Then they were caught with $30k. By my math, even in the best case scenario, that leaves about $30k+ missing after minor deductions for dope wigs, and hair dye. Pretty much. Make sure there's a garage or building of some form to stash whatever vehicle you have from flyovers, and really lay low for few days. He did say they were trying to lay low but you usually don't do that within a days ride from the place you bailed from. If I ever end up going to prison again this has really taught me a lot lol. Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it.
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10th May 2022, 12:47 PM	#146
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 12,506	Originally Posted by shemp Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it. Sure, anything is possible.
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10th May 2022, 12:49 PM	#147
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	Originally Posted by shemp Entirely possible that if they had $60,000 in cash when apprehended, it could turn into $30,000 once the police "counted" it. Cop: "Sir we found 60,000 dollars in cash." Captain: "Did you say 45,000 dollars in cash?" Cop: "Yes Sir, 30,000 dollars in cash." (Stolen from a meme with the same joke but with marijuana I saw once)
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11th May 2022, 12:54 AM	#148
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin And…Ms. White has died. Oh dear. So she never made it to the 'trials and errors' thread. Bye then, Vicky White.
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11th May 2022, 12:56 AM	#149
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by plague311 Oh I don't think the cops did it, but I'd be open to believing that he did it. Only if one of them has none on their hands. I'm not sure how the vehicle chase went down. If there were shots fired, or if they had been shooting already. They're scheduling an autopsy for today. I'll wait to see what they say. He also referred to her as "my wife": It's just an odd choice of words, but if I was involved in that situation I don't know that I'd be speaking clearly. We'll see what the autopsy says. She probably called herself that.
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11th May 2022, 12:57 AM	#150
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by plague311 I'm not sure it would really help all that much. It might help her I guess, if he didn't have to testify to anything she did, but usually you don't intend on getting caught so you don't take steps for afterwards. She was hit with a few fraud charges. I don't think she really knew anything that would help him with the bulk of his problems. He was already serving 75 years and facing the death penalty. The breaking out charge was pretty "meh" in comparison to that. I really think her actions were drastic. The charge she was facing was a max of 10 years, and $10k. Considering everything about her I'd be shocked if she got more than some home monitoring and probation. She took the extreme way out, tough for her. Not really. She was a complete control freak IMV.
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11th May 2022, 12:58 AM	#151
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by Thermal Wigs make sense. Rule number one in ducking out of sight is to look different. Thets what blew me away about the car wash pic. He looked exactly the prison pic of him that was circulating, tats exposed and the works. He is not very bright.
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11th May 2022, 01:13 AM	#153
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Quote: Brian Entin @BrianEntin Casey White leaving Lauderdale County Courthouse - going to state prison. https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/statu...59nae5mk8LOfhg He didn't like State Prison. Casey Cole White wanted a county jail. Back to square one.
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11th May 2022, 09:15 PM	#155
mgidm86 Philosopher Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,740	Good riddance, next story!
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13th May 2022, 03:30 AM	#156
wobs Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hull Posts: 2,644	Originally Posted by a_unique_person Exactly the same thing happened in Australia. Female prison guard helps hardened criminal lover escape. They literally blasted their way out with explosives https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gibb Or they could be a Prison Teacher: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...eacher-jailed/ I remember this one happening, what with her prestending she had a bomb in her car. Quote: The court had been told that McAllister and Hardy, of Chaucer Street, Hull, had walked out of jail together through 10 security gates without being challenged. Then, to give him time to escape, she staged a bomb hoax at a supermarket with a device made out of Smarties tubes, masking tape, compost, and a calculator. The dangerous fugitive was recaptured five days later after an armed raid on a house in Morden, Surrey.
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Today, 12:14 PM	#157
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 39,418	Casey, Vicky White motel room has abnormally long waitlist Quote: According to a motel clerk, who wished to remain anonymous, as of last week, 65 to 70 people were waiting to stay in Room 150 at Motel 41, where Casey and Vicky White stayed while authorities nationwide conducted a manhunt for the pair. https://whnt.com/news/manhunt-for-es...long-waitlist/ People are ******* weird.
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