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Old 10th May 2022, 02:55 AM   #1281
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Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”
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Old 10th May 2022, 03:05 AM   #1282
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”
I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded.
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Old 10th May 2022, 10:26 AM   #1283
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”
I think it's a Kafkaesque thing "You must be guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be accusing you of everything".
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Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them.
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Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them.
They assumed he was as hypocritical & self serving as they are, when he proved not to be they were outraged.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”
I like* the pivot to "it's a technicality"

When he kept to the regulations and the technicality was that he ate a meal in the middle of a long working night - which was within the spirit and letter of the law.


*not really
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.
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Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.
Stealing that
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Millionaire Prince, sat on a gold throne read out some bollocks handed to him by a bunch of corrupt private school bellends that talked about the cost of living crisis.

I love these British traditions.
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If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?
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Old 10th May 2022, 10:38 PM   #1291
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?
Almost certainly not but if they are forced to do so it'll be on the bottom of page 34 after weeks of shrill headlines.
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Originally Posted by Matthew Best View Post
It was helpful of you to provide the link that directly contradicts the point you made:

"Metro is now distributed at 3,000 points in 50 cities across the UK"

Possibly it might have been a good idea to read the link before posting it.
Recent development?
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded.
Er, he's leader of the Labour party. There's your answer.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?
It won't care as the whole point of the exercise was to distract censure away from the Prime Minister and to interfere in the local elections. After all, it was known about for about a year, yet look at the timing the press chose to splatter the fake news over their front pages relentlessly as if it was a fact Starmer was no better than Johnson.
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No, I don't. You have not made any worthwhile comparison between the two, nor supported your claims with any actual evidence.
You also seem confused about what you are complaining about. Support for Brexit was highest among the working class, and also in the right-wing press many of them read. Where is the disconnect there?



Join the dots is pure conspiraspeak, so no, I haven't.
Do please specify exactly what fake news item you are referring to, along with the evidence you have seen that convinced you it was fake.
Then you can demonstrate the influence the owner of the Daily Mail group has on the editorial stance of the Metro. It seems they disagree with you, by the way:
I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.)
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Originally Posted by Vixen View Post
I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.)
As long as the eastern Europeans and darkies get sent home and the French and Germans don't get to make laws over the UK they are happy.

It's the EU picking on us that is causing the problems.
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Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.

Then Johnson would be over qualified
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The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration.

https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560

Can't see Steve or Cilla.

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Then Johnson would be over qualified
There's a first time for everything.
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The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration.

https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560

Can't see Steve or Cilla.
It does look like one of his.
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It does look like one of his.
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Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget."

He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget."

He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597
He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person).

I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling.
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He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person).

I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling.
It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric.
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It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric.
Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit!
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Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit!
Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit?
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Anderson claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit?


Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about.

More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them.

**** the Tories.
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Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about.

More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them.

**** the Tories.
Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote?
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If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?
I think you know the answer to that.
As far as I’m aware they have never apologised for their role in the MMR scare, they really are a blight on our national life.
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If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?
No, they'll take credit for his exoneration as a result of their fearless determination to expose the truth.

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Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote?
Good point.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg asked for his opinion on the Anderson '30p' comments said on Peston “I don’t think it would be right for me to say something like that as I can’t cook”

video in link https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1524608329368092673
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Meanwhile "Partygate" rumbles on. Another 50 fines:


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The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

The Fixed Penalty Notices come in addition to more than 50 handed out last month, including to Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak.

The identities of those fined this time are not yet known.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61422144

Of course the real villain here is Sir Keir Starmer and his beer and curry during a late night by-election planning session.
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Meanwhile "Partygate" rumbles on. Another 50 fines:
Funny how this didn't come out till after the local elections...

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No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?
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No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?
It was quite bizarre
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No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?
I thought it was a sketch from the Fast Show.
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