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Captain_Swoop · 10th May 2022, 02:55 AM

Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

The Don · 10th May 2022, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded.

P.J. Denyer · 10th May 2022, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

I think it's a Kafkaesque thing "You must be guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be accusing you of everything".

Garrison · 10th May 2022, 11:37 AM

Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them.

P.J. Denyer · 10th May 2022, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Garrison

Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them.

They assumed he was as hypocritical & self serving as they are, when he proved not to be they were outraged.

jimbob · 10th May 2022, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

I like* the pivot to "it's a technicality"

When he kept to the regulations and the technicality was that he ate a meal in the middle of a long working night - which was within the spirit and letter of the law.

*not really

Mojo · 10th May 2022, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.

jimbob · 10th May 2022, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.

Stealing that

Captain_Swoop · 10th May 2022, 04:48 PM

Millionaire Prince, sat on a gold throne read out some bollocks handed to him by a bunch of corrupt private school bellends that talked about the cost of living crisis.

I love these British traditions.

Captain_Swoop · 10th May 2022, 04:49 PM

If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

The Don · 10th May 2022, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

Almost certainly not but if they are forced to do so it'll be on the bottom of page 34 after weeks of shrill headlines.

Vixen · 10th May 2022, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Matthew Best

It was helpful of you to provide the link that directly contradicts the point you made:

"Metro is now distributed at 3,000 points in 50 cities across the UK"

Possibly it might have been a good idea to read the link before posting it.

Recent development?

Vixen · 10th May 2022, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded.

Er, he's leader of the Labour party. There's your answer.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

It won't care as the whole point of the exercise was to distract censure away from the Prime Minister and to interfere in the local elections. After all, it was known about for about a year, yet look at the timing the press chose to splatter the fake news over their front pages relentlessly as if it was a fact Starmer was no better than Johnson.

Vixen · 11th May 2022, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

No, I don't. You have not made any worthwhile comparison between the two, nor supported your claims with any actual evidence.
You also seem confused about what you are complaining about. Support for Brexit was highest among the working class, and also in the right-wing press many of them read. Where is the disconnect there?

Join the dots is pure conspiraspeak, so no, I haven't.
Do please specify exactly what fake news item you are referring to, along with the evidence you have seen that convinced you it was fake.
Then you can demonstrate the influence the owner of the Daily Mail group has on the editorial stance of the Metro. It seems they disagree with you, by the way:

I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.)

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.)

As long as the eastern Europeans and darkies get sent home and the French and Germans don't get to make laws over the UK they are happy.

It's the EU picking on us that is causing the problems.

P.J. Denyer · 11th May 2022, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mojo

Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.

Then Johnson would be over qualified

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 04:52 AM

The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration.

https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560

Can't see Steve or Cilla.

Darat · 11th May 2022, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer

Then Johnson would be over qualified

There's a first time for everything.

jimbob · 11th May 2022, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration.

https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560

Can't see Steve or Cilla.

It does look like one of his.

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by jimbob

It does look like one of his.

Satire is dead.

sarge · 11th May 2022, 06:48 AM

stop the bickering, please.

Responding to this mod box in thread will be off topic Posted By:sarge

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 11:31 AM

Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget."

He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597

GlennB · 11th May 2022, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget."

He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597

He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person).

I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling.

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by GlennB

He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person).

I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling.

It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric.

GlennB · 11th May 2022, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric.

Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit!

ponderingturtle · 11th May 2022, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit!

Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit?

Captain_Swoop · 11th May 2022, 01:10 PM

Anderson claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'

GlennB · 11th May 2022, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit?

Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about.

More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them.

**** the Tories.

catsmate · 11th May 2022, 02:28 PM

Time to find a copy of Herbert Boon's classic How to Live on One-and-Six.

Lothian · 11th May 2022, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by GlennB

Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about.

More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them.

**** the Tories.

Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote?

Dragon · 12th May 2022, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

I think you know the answer to that.
As far as I’m aware they have never apologised for their role in the MMR scare, they really are a blight on our national life.

Dave Rogers · 12th May 2022, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

No, they'll take credit for his exoneration as a result of their fearless determination to expose the truth.

Dave

GlennB · 12th May 2022, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Lothian

Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote?

Good point.

Captain_Swoop · 12th May 2022, 03:23 AM

Jacob Rees-Mogg asked for his opinion on the Anderson '30p' comments said on Peston “I don’t think it would be right for me to say something like that as I can’t cook”

video in link https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1524608329368092673

The Don · 12th May 2022, 03:40 AM

Meanwhile "Partygate" rumbles on. Another 50 fines:

Quote:

The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings.

The Fixed Penalty Notices come in addition to more than 50 handed out last month, including to Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak.

The identities of those fined this time are not yet known.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61422144

Of course the real villain here is Sir Keir Starmer and his beer and curry during a late night by-election planning session.

Dave Rogers · 12th May 2022, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Meanwhile "Partygate" rumbles on. Another 50 fines:

Funny how this didn't come out till after the local elections...

Dave

zooterkin · 12th May 2022, 03:50 AM

No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?

jimbob · 12th May 2022, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?

It was quite bizarre

Captain_Swoop · 12th May 2022, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

No mention of Gove's bizarre TV appearances yesterday morning? Funny voices, scouse accents; he's not on drugs, is he?

I thought it was a sketch from the Fast Show.

10th May 2022, 10:26 AM	#1283
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,704	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law” I think it's a Kafkaesque thing "You must be guilty of something because otherwise we wouldn't be accusing you of everything".
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10th May 2022, 11:37 AM	#1284
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,777	Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them.
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10th May 2022, 11:39 AM	#1285
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,704	Originally Posted by Garrison Its reaching new levels of the surreal when the papers that insisted Starmer should quit if he was found guilty are outraged he agrees with them. They assumed he was as hypocritical & self serving as they are, when he proved not to be they were outraged.
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10th May 2022, 12:30 PM	#1286
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 25,581	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law” I like* the pivot to "it's a technicality" When he kept to the regulations and the technicality was that he ate a meal in the middle of a long working night - which was within the spirit and letter of the law. *not really
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10th May 2022, 01:15 PM	#1287
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 35,778	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law” Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister.
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10th May 2022, 02:55 AM	#1281
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law”

10th May 2022, 03:05 AM	#1282
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,168	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Still trying to understand the phrase “If he gets away with not breaking the law” I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded.

10th May 2022, 01:26 PM	#1288
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 25,581	Originally Posted by Mojo Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister. Stealing that
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10th May 2022, 04:48 PM	#1289
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Millionaire Prince, sat on a gold throne read out some bollocks handed to him by a bunch of corrupt private school bellends that talked about the cost of living crisis. I love these British traditions.

10th May 2022, 04:49 PM	#1290
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise?

10th May 2022, 10:38 PM	#1291
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,168	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise? Almost certainly not but if they are forced to do so it'll be on the bottom of page 34 after weeks of shrill headlines.

10th May 2022, 11:14 PM	#1292
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by Matthew Best It was helpful of you to provide the link that directly contradicts the point you made: "Metro is now distributed at 3,000 points in 50 cities across the UK" Possibly it might have been a good idea to read the link before posting it. Recent development?
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10th May 2022, 11:24 PM	#1293
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by The Don I think that there tens (hundreds) of thousands of people in certain demographics who have direct experience of what you describe. The only surprise in this case is that a white, nominally Christian, straight, middle-aged, middle-class, cis-male is being railroaded. Er, he's leader of the Labour party. There's your answer.
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11th May 2022, 12:05 AM	#1294
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise? It won't care as the whole point of the exercise was to distract censure away from the Prime Minister and to interfere in the local elections. After all, it was known about for about a year, yet look at the timing the press chose to splatter the fake news over their front pages relentlessly as if it was a fact Starmer was no better than Johnson.
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11th May 2022, 12:12 AM	#1295
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 28,937	Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak No, I don't. You have not made any worthwhile comparison between the two, nor supported your claims with any actual evidence. You also seem confused about what you are complaining about. Support for Brexit was highest among the working class, and also in the right-wing press many of them read. Where is the disconnect there? Join the dots is pure conspiraspeak, so no, I haven't. Do please specify exactly what fake news item you are referring to, along with the evidence you have seen that convinced you it was fake. Then you can demonstrate the influence the owner of the Daily Mail group has on the editorial stance of the Metro. It seems they disagree with you, by the way: I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.)
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11th May 2022, 02:06 AM	#1296
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Originally Posted by Vixen I'll leave you to work out the connection. As a starter: is higher food prices in working class interests? Are long queues at the airport in people's interests or only being able to holiday in the sun for 90 days at a time up to a maximum of 180 days? (Hint: people like Farage made sure they had EU passports so don't have to queue or only stay 90 days at a time.) As long as the eastern Europeans and darkies get sent home and the French and Germans don't get to make laws over the UK they are happy. It's the EU picking on us that is causing the problems.

11th May 2022, 03:55 AM	#1297
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,704	Originally Posted by Mojo Perhaps they’re trying to make breaking the law a requirement for being Prime Minister. Then Johnson would be over qualified
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11th May 2022, 04:52 AM	#1298
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration. https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560 Can't see Steve or Cilla.
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11th May 2022, 04:56 AM	#1299
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 101,809	Originally Posted by P.J. Denyer Then Johnson would be over qualified There's a first time for everything.
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11th May 2022, 04:58 AM	#1300
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 25,581	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop The normalisation of poverty has upped to celebration. https://twitter.com/memorialdevice/s...47289707458560 Can't see Steve or Cilla. It does look like one of his.
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11th May 2022, 05:29 AM	#1301
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Originally Posted by jimbob It does look like one of his. Satire is dead.

11th May 2022, 11:31 AM	#1303
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget." He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597

11th May 2022, 11:43 AM	#1304
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leching at tractors (in Wales) Posts: 27,837	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Tory MP Lee Anderson said "I think you will see there is not this massive use for food banks in this country. We have got generation after generation who cannot cook properly. They cannot cook a meal from scratch. They cannot budget." He claimed people could cook meals from scratch for 30p a day. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...eople-26937597 He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person). I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling.
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11th May 2022, 11:50 AM	#1305
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Originally Posted by GlennB He's exaggerating. Half a tin of Tesco haricot beans and some rice costs more like 40p (per person). I seriously wonder whether some of these Tories have a bet running down at their 'Gentleman's club', based on who can make the stupidest public claim without giggling. It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric.

11th May 2022, 12:01 PM	#1306
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leching at tractors (in Wales) Posts: 27,837	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop It's not just ingredients though, cooking uses gas or electric. Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit!
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11th May 2022, 12:13 PM	#1307
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 52,385	Originally Posted by GlennB Nah, budgeting is the key. Couple of old bricks, some garden debris or twigs from down the park, then cook that stuff over a campfire. Make do and mend! Dunkirk spirit! Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit?
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11th May 2022, 01:10 PM	#1308
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Anderson claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'

11th May 2022, 01:10 PM	#1309
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leching at tractors (in Wales) Posts: 27,837	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Isn't that more the Leningrad spirit? Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about. More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them. **** the Tories.
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11th May 2022, 02:28 PM	#1310
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 26,913	Time to find a copy of Herbert Boon's classic How to Live on One-and-Six.
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11th May 2022, 11:37 PM	#1311
Lothian should be banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth, specifically the crusty bit on the outside Posts: 17,421	Originally Posted by GlennB Grass can be quite nutritious, I gather. Acorns in autumn, earthworms ... dunno what these poor Brits are moaning about. More seriously, I've had a big clear out of our jam-packed larder cupboard. I packed spare tins and unopened packets of dry food into some carrier bags and phoned a local food bank. The nice lady who collected nearly broke my heart when she told me they already have a list of over 50 local kids who are unlikely to get any kind of gift at Xmas, and are already working at collecting for them. **** the Tories. Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote?

12th May 2022, 12:25 AM	#1312
Dragon Graduate Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,610	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise? I think you know the answer to that. As far as I’m aware they have never apologised for their role in the MMR scare, they really are a blight on our national life.
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12th May 2022, 01:18 AM	#1313
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 33,297	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop If Keir Starmer isn’t fined by the police will the Daily Mail apologise? No, they'll take credit for his exoneration as a result of their fearless determination to expose the truth. Dave
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12th May 2022, 02:12 AM	#1314
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leching at tractors (in Wales) Posts: 27,837	Originally Posted by Lothian Are any of these people likely to go through the required hoops in order to vote? Good point.
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12th May 2022, 03:23 AM	#1315
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 42,150	Jacob Rees-Mogg asked for his opinion on the Anderson '30p' comments said on Peston “I don’t think it would be right for me to say something like that as I can’t cook” video in link https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1524608329368092673

12th May 2022, 03:40 AM	#1316
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 34,168	Meanwhile "Partygate" rumbles on. Another 50 fines: Quote: The Metropolitan Police have issued more than 50 new fines for breaches of Covid rules in Downing Street and other government buildings. The Fixed Penalty Notices come in addition to more than 50 handed out last month, including to Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak. The identities of those fined this time are not yet known. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61422144 Of course the real villain here is Sir Keir Starmer and his beer and curry during a late night by-election planning session.