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Old 22nd May 2022, 10:59 PM   #281
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Originally Posted by HansMustermann View Post
Nope, still not getting what you're trying to say.
Doesn't matter.
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Old 23rd May 2022, 06:04 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
I don't care whether fear is the driver of modern Christian theology or not, so I wouldn't try to convince them that it is.

But I would like them to at least admit that that's the basis, the original version, which the modern version came from.

But I also don't know how to get them to face that fact. If they want to insist not only on pretending it means something other than what it says for themselves, but also that the authors who originally chose the words didn't mean what they wrote either, then the word choice alone is not the way to go. And pointing to modern preachers blathering on & on about how they think the whole world is out to get them for being Christian, or to studies showing that getting people to think scary thoughts primes them to take more conservative political & social positions, is not the way to go either, because any individual in modern times can just dismiss either of them as applying to some other Christian or pseudo-Christian church out there, not their own, not the "real" one(s). And the former can also be dismissed on the basis "But the whole world really is out to get us! It says so right here in the totally-not-fear-inspired Bible!".
While simultaneously claiming it's the word of god.
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