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Old 21st August 2019, 11:46 AM   #241
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Obama and the baby blimp were both coming to Denmark. No wonder Trump cancelled his visit.

Wouldn't it be fun if Obama and the baby blimp headed off Trump on visits to multiple countries?
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:55 AM   #242
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Originally Posted by Ryokan View Post
Non of those, as far as I know, were citizens of another country.

The Greenlanders are Danish citizens, which gives them a lot of rights. Even if they retained their Danish citizenship, what would happen to their health care? What would happen to their free education?

But this is all so stupid, anyway. I can't understand what Trump was thinking, or how how advisors didn't talk some sense into him.

The nickname "The Emperor Without Clothes" is used in many Scandinavian newspapers today.
Given that Hans Christian Andersen was a Dane, that reference is so damn appropriate.
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:56 AM   #243
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Obama and the baby blimp were both coming to Denmark. No wonder Trump cancelled his visit.

Wouldn't it be fun if Obama and the baby blimp headed off Trump on visits to multiple countries?
Seems like a crap thing to do to Obama. Doesn't he have better things to do with his life than travel the world with a baby balloon, saving sovereign nations from Donald Trump?

Also, they're sovereign nations. Why do they need Barack Obama to deal with their Trump problem? It seemed to me like the Danish government had the situation under control, without having to appeal to the Obamassiah.
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:58 AM   #244
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Good God, a horrid thought occurs: you don't suppose he was trying to buy it for himself, personally, like the Belgian Congo? Like he read up on King Leopold and the atrocities and thought "that sounds smart!"
Leopold the Damned would be the kind of person Trump would admire...
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Old 21st August 2019, 11:59 AM   #245
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Seems like a crap thing to do to Obama. Doesn't he have better things to do with his life than travel the world with a baby balloon, saving sovereign nations from Donald Trump?

Also, they're sovereign nations. Why do they need Barack Obama to deal with their Trump problem? It seemed to me like the Danish government had the situation under control, without having to appeal to the Obamassiah.
You can spin it all you want, but your Dear Leader just made a total ass of himself in the eyes of all but his braindead followers.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:01 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Seems like a crap thing to do to Obama. Doesn't he have better things to do with his life than travel the world with a baby balloon, saving sovereign nations from Donald Trump?

Also, they're sovereign nations. Why do they need Barack Obama to deal with their Trump problem? It seemed to me like the Danish government had the situation under control, without having to appeal to the Obamassiah.
Sorry, how do you think the Obama invitation happened?

He is giving a talk on September 28, far as I can tell. What makes you think that this was needed to help "deal with their Trump problem"?

Honestly, your recent comments are hard to follow.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:15 PM   #247
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
You can spin it all you want, but your Dear Leader just made a total ass of himself in the eyes of all but his braindead followers.
One, he's not my dear leader.

Two, if you think he only just now made an ass of himself in the eyes of the world, you haven't been paying attention.

Three, no spin, just having fun with the idea of Barack Obama and a baby balloon traveling the world, driving off Donald Trump like some sort of surreal exorcist. It was Skeptic Ginger's idea; maybe talk to her about the spin.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:21 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Sorry, how do you think the Obama invitation happened?

He is giving a talk on September 28, far as I can tell. What makes you think that this was needed to help "deal with their Trump problem"?

Honestly, your recent comments are hard to follow.
You may find it helpful to read the post I'm replying to. I usually try to quote it, to make the necessary context easily accessible.

In this case, as you can see from SG's post, I'm replying to the idea of Obama making a regular thing of this. Every time Trump plans to go somewhere, Obama arranges to be there with a big baby balloon and scare him off. Which seems to me to be both a crappy job to give to Obama, and also probably unnecessary.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:32 PM   #249
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
You may find it helpful to read the post I'm replying to. I usually try to quote it, to make the necessary context easily accessible.

In this case, as you can see from SG's post, I'm replying to the idea of Obama making a regular thing of this. Every time Trump plans to go somewhere, Obama arranges to be there with a big baby balloon and scare him off. Which seems to me to be both a crappy job to give to Obama, and also probably unnecessary.
Fair point.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:47 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Seems like a crap thing to do to Obama. Doesn't he have better things to do with his life than travel the world with a baby balloon, saving sovereign nations from Donald Trump?

Also, they're sovereign nations. Why do they need Barack Obama to deal with their Trump problem? It seemed to me like the Danish government had the situation under control, without having to appeal to the Obamassiah.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:49 PM   #251
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
You can spin it all you want, but your Dear Leader just made a total ass of himself in the eyes of all but his braindead followers.
He's now admitted when questioned that the PM telling him the proposal was "absurd" was offensive.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:51 PM   #252
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Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Fair point.
I thought it was a good idea.

TP is worried about wasting Obama's time.
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Old 21st August 2019, 12:59 PM   #253
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
I thought it was a good idea. : cool :

TP is worried about wasting Obama's time. : rolleyes :
It's not like he has an infinite amount of the stuff. Even I can acknowledge that whatever good Obama can still do in the world, it's probably a lot more than simply being Donald Trump's personal scarecrow.

Even I have better fantasies about Obama than that.
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Old 21st August 2019, 01:24 PM   #254
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Seems like a crap thing to do to Obama. Doesn't he have better things to do with his life than travel the world with a baby balloon, saving sovereign nations from Donald Trump?

Also, they're sovereign nations. Why do they need Barack Obama to deal with their Trump problem? It seemed to me like the Danish government had the situation under control, without having to appeal to the Obamassiah.
I did not get from SG's post the idea that Obama was needed, nor that he was summoned by Denmark, nor any reason for someone so vociferously opposed to nasty nicknames when they apply to Trump to find a new one for Obama. Simply a suggestion that it would be convenient and economical if he and the balloon were sufficient to steer Trump.

A Trump supporter could even spin this into a benefit, as it might thus prevent the irascible and unpredictable president from making a further fool of himself in distant lands. e.t.a. you could even count Obama, then, as a Trump aide.

By the way, when speaking of Greenland and the utterly ridiculous proposal to buy it from Denmark, one ought to remember that it is an autonomous nation, with its own parliament, home rule, flag, and a constitutional right of self-determination, though it remains a part of the Kingdom of Denmark. In other words, in addition to the silliness of the proposition, to make it at all requires a level of ignorance that some might consider inexcusable for a world leader.
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Old 21st August 2019, 01:26 PM   #255
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He's now admitted when questioned that the PM telling him the proposal was "absurd" was offensive.
She didn't even tell him, or any member of his staff. She just answered a reporter's question about it.
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Old 21st August 2019, 01:28 PM   #256
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Good God, a horrid thought occurs: you don't suppose he was trying to buy it for himself, personally, like the Belgian Congo? Like he read up on King Leopold and the atrocities and thought "that sounds smart!"
Nah, Greenland isn't good rubber country.
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Looks like the Danes dodged a bullet.... the rest of us haven't been so lucky.
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Old 21st August 2019, 01:31 PM   #258
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By the way, when speaking of Greenland and the utterly ridiculous proposal to buy it from Denmark, one ought to remember that it is an autonomous nation, with its own parliament, home rule, flag, and a constitutional right of self-determination, though it remains a part of the Kingdom of Denmark. In other words, in addition to the silliness of the proposition, to make it at all requires a level of ignorance that some might consider inexcusable for a world leader.
LOL give me a break. Do you think Trump knows that? Or literally any of his aides or cabinet members? They looked on Wikipedia and saw that "Greenland belongs to the Kingdom of Denmark" and stopped reading at that point; to them that meant Greenland is Denmark's Guam.
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Looks like the Danes dodged a bullet.... the rest of us haven't been so lucky.
Don't lose hope yet! Trump may decide to try buying Newfoundland next.
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Don't lose hope yet! Trump may decide to try buying Newfoundland next.
Does he like fish?
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Does he like fish?
Good point. He should hold out for Hawaii.
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Sorry, how do you think the Obama invitation happened?

He is giving a talk on September 28, far as I can tell. What makes you think that this was needed to help "deal with their Trump problem"?

Honestly, your recent comments are hard to follow.
That happens when you try to defend the indefensible.
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Does he like fish?
Let the "And Canada Might Be Ready To Sell" jokes start here...….

The "Goofy Newfies" have a certain reputation in Canada....
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This man’s a genius! Don’t you see? It is the standard rejection-retreat negotiation tactic.

First, make a ludicrously large offer (buy Greenland), then when it is rejected make a smaller offer and in doing so make a concession that looks like you are doing the other side a favour, and the other side reciprocates by accepting the smaller offer. Mark my words, Copenhagen will sell Denmark by this time next week.
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That happens when you try to defend the indefensible.
Nobody is defending anything. I riffed on something SG said. Phiwum missed the connection. You ended up way off base. Do you want to try again?
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What the Stupid Bitch in Chief doesn't understand is that the prime minister of Denmark wasn't talking to the United States; she was talking to the **** investing the Oval Office. America remains unoffended. There may be some Maggascum who are offended but they aren't valuable as human beings.
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You may find it helpful to read the post I'm replying to. I usually try to quote it, to make the necessary context easily accessible.

In this case, as you can see from SG's post, I'm replying to the idea of Obama making a regular thing of this. Every time Trump plans to go somewhere, Obama arranges to be there with a big baby balloon and scare him off. Which seems to me to be both a crappy job to give to Obama, and also probably unnecessary.
I took SG's notion as just a little fun mental picture to roll around in the noggin. Nothing to take up in discussion, as though a serious policy suggestion that demanded hashing out. Boy, the things Trump defenders jump into the fray over...
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Let the "And Canada Might Be Ready To Sell" jokes start here...….

The "Goofy Newfies" have a certain reputation in Canada....
I'm a Newfie, and I resemble that remark!

Now we have Jimmy Kimmel as Honorary Mayor of Dildo!
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I took SG's notion as just a little fun mental picture to roll around in the noggin. Nothing to take up in discussion, as though a serious policy suggestion that demanded hashing out. Boy, the things Trump defenders jump into the fray over...
This has been a strategy of late. Reinterpret satirical expression as serious comment and then make a self righteous comment about how silly all the "lefties" are being.
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This has been a strategy of late. Reinterpret satirical expression as serious comment and then make a self righteous comment about how silly all the "lefties" aare being.
Don't forget: And pretend not to understand irony or parody and play The Coulter Card... "See? It's the lefties who are the bigots!"
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I took SG's notion as just a little fun mental picture to roll around in the noggin. Nothing to take up in discussion, as though a serious policy suggestion that demanded hashing out. Boy, the things Trump defenders jump into the fray over...
Just because I'm responding to SG's idea in kind, that doesn't mean take it any more seriously than she does, or you do.

Although you wanting to turn this into a partisan slapfight suggests that you're taking it a lot more seriously than I do.
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Let the "And Canada Might Be Ready To Sell" jokes start here...….

The "Goofy Newfies" have a certain reputation in Canada....
As some of our best soldiers.

Or were you referring to something else?
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Whether Greenlanders could opt to retain their original citizenship, would be compelled to become US citizens, or would be allowed dual citizenship is a good (but hopefully moot) question IMO

Greenlanders are much too brown for Trump's taste. He and the other Republicans will confuse them with Latin American invaders!
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Maybe Denmark should consider buying Puerto Rico (DR.dk, Aug. 23, 2019). The Puerto Ricans don't seem to mind: https://twitter.com/gabrielrodz/stat...963731970?s=20

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Puerto Rican Twitter users coined the term "Caribbean Vikings" and created their own Danish "starter kits" in case Puerto Rico becomes a colony of Denmark.Trump joked about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland. Puerto Ricans are joking back. MSNBC, Aug. 22, 2019)

More salsa dancers! I'm looking forward to it already.
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I have today written to Boris Johnston asking that he publicly declare that the Isle of Mull will not be sold to America.


It cost us £18m in police costs alone last time the orange menace came.
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I have today written to Boris Johnston asking that he publicly declare that the Isle of Mull will not be sold to America.


It cost us £18m in police costs alone last time the orange menace came.
What I like about the Isle of Mull is that they named their capital after a Womble.....
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Meme with the queen of Denmark holding the Trump baby: "But I want a polar bear!"
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Old 23rd August 2019, 10:38 AM   #278
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News from Greenland + Conan without Borders

Trump had a "constructive" conversation with Mette F. (sermisiaq.ag, Aug. , 2019)

Conan O'Brian is in Nuuk (sermitsiaq.ag, Aug. 23, 2019)

I look forward to Team Coco's reports from the North Atlantic. It was funny to see Conan learn to dance salsa and rumba in Cuba back in 2015:
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I wonder what they'll teach him in Greenland. I don't think they club baby seals anymore, so maybe kayaking or the old Inuit custom of wife-swapping, but I don't know if he's married.

Conan Announces His Trip To Greenland, Aug. 19, 2019 (4:30 min.):
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What Conan Is Packing For His Trip To Greenland, Aug. 21, 2019 (3:31, min.):
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The "Property Brothers" Give Conan Advice About Buying Greenland, Aug. 21, 2019 (min. 4:00):
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"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx
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Trump is now officially feeble-minded. He's a buffoon and there's nothing to discuss with him. A "state visit" is just a show of pomp and ceremony. There needs to be no actual reason other than shoring up relations. You go, you eat the bad food, shake the hands, review the nancy-boys in their fancy uniforms, you shake some more hands, you leave.

He just confirmed to the world that he's a bully-boy without a clue. The "Let's Buy Greenland" meme was really an afterthought. The POTUS can visit countries and should visit countries. If his minions hadn't been so anxious to embarrass him by confirming that he actually though he could buy Greenland, the visit could've gone off without a hitch (oh, a big baby balloon and a few thousand protesters, but he gets that everywhere he goes). But having to defend his brilliant thought processes once leaked, he actually ran with "We're gonna go buy us some green land, Jared. Pack up the carpet bags!"
No, no, no. You have it wrong. When you diss Trump, you diss the USA.
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"He's treating us like a good he can purchase," she said. "He's not even talking to Greenland - he's talking to Denmark about buying Greenland."
Ebbe Volquardsen, a professor of culture and social history at the University of Greenland, raises the same question: "Trump is talking about buying Greenland, but the first question is, who is he buying it from?
"Then it turned out that he wanted to buy it from Denmark, as if Greenland is the property of Denmark," he told the BBC. "Which of course is not the case."
'This is very scary': Greenlanders on Trump wanting to buy their island (BBC News, Aug. 24, 2019)

The Greenlanders also aren't happy about the Danish-American cooperation in Greenland:

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"The American presence in Greenland is not to the benefit of Greenlanders," she said. "Even though America said, and Denmark said, that the expansion [of the Thule Air Base in 1953] was just in case there was an attack from Russia... we see it differently. We never asked Americans to come. Denmark allowed them to come and build an air base.
"Then, the Americans and Denmark together only gave the Inughuit people four days to move out of their homes, and told them that if they didn't move out they would demolish their houses - because [they said] it was important that they built the air strip right then, because the Cold War was going on.
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