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Old 11th February 2018, 11:25 PM   #1361
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
The problem with this tweet is that idiot wife-beater boy told Kelly that this was going to be a problem. This isn't just an allegation; this is Porter telling Kelly that he knew the whole "wife-beating thing" would be a problem. Remember, Porter isn't contesting that he beat his wife.
Actually, he is.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/02/07...stic-violence/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/u...0F1C8B&gwt=pay
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Old 12th February 2018, 01:53 AM   #1362
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Devin Nunes has started his own "alternative news" site
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Old 12th February 2018, 01:56 AM   #1363
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White House set to release a budget that doesn't balance
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Old 12th February 2018, 08:08 AM   #1364
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The hypocrisy rolls on. Here is Trump responding to the furor over the abuse allegation involving Rob Porter and the White House's handling of it:

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Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump
So many positive things going on for the U.S.A. and the Fake News Media just doesn’t want to go there. Same negative stories over and over again! No wonder the People no longer trust the media, whose approval ratings are correctly at their lowest levels in history! #MAGA
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Donald Trump wraps up a year in office with the lowest average approval rating of any elected president in his first year. That is according to polling by Gallup, which shows that Trump has averaged just a 39% approval rating since his inauguration. The previous low was held by Bill Clinton, whose first-year average stood 10 points higher than Trump’s, at 49%. Link
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Old 12th February 2018, 08:33 AM   #1365
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
That Tweet will not hurt Trump. If that quote came from anybody else in any other context it would be applauded.

A few years from now the quote will be all that is remembered. "Wow, people complained about that quote? Must have been some uptight people back in the early century."

I'm glad someone has the balls to say the truth about this issue rather than bend over like every other politically correct douchebag. MeToo could go too far - he is not incorrect to say that we need to be cautious.

Trump says dumb things, this is not one of them.
Trump wasn't embracing a principle. He was claiming that "false allegations" were being made by two specific, named women who gave sworn accounts of their abuse by their ex-husband to the FBI, supported by photographs, police reports and an emergency order of protection, which the FBI took seriously enough to block his security clearance. His tweet was identical with his defense and endorsement of serial child molester Roy Moore. And of course, he has denied allegations made against himself by more than a dozen women, and his own recorded claims that "when you're a celebrity they let you do anything you want." Trump is openly, plainly contemptuous of women unless they are fawning over him.

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Old 12th February 2018, 10:11 AM   #1366
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I'm sure we've seen or heard that Omorasa (spelling? and I don't care what the spelling might be) kinda threw our commander-in-ept under the bus on Celebrity Big Brother?

The Google results so you can pick your own poison:

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This happened a few days ago.
I guess "they" have been keeping his phone from him because he has tweet thrown her under the bus.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:00 PM   #1367
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
That Tweet will not hurt Trump. If that quote came from anybody else in any other context it would be applauded.

A few years from now the quote will be all that is remembered. "Wow, people complained about that quote? Must have been some uptight people back in the early century."

I'm glad someone has the balls to say the truth about this issue rather than bend over like every other politically correct douchebag. MeToo could go too far - he is not incorrect to say that we need to be cautious.

Trump says dumb things, this is not one of them.
Except Trump could have ordered Kelly not to accept Porter's resignation (or to not fire him, not sure which happened) in order to ensure due process. We're not talking about a legal due process, we're talking about an employer's due process, and who was in charge of Porter's employment? Trump was, ultimately, so Trump was in charge of that process.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:03 PM   #1368
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Except Trump could have ordered Kelly not to accept Porter's resignation (or to not fire him, not sure which happened) in order to ensure due process. We're not talking about a legal due process, we're talking about an employer's due process, and who was in charge of Porter's employment? Trump was, ultimately, so Trump was in charge of that process.
Of course trump fired him, he was getting far too many headlines for a staffer and that will get you fired. But he can't appear weak on feminism in front of his base so he has to make it seem like he was fighting for Porter. It is really simple you just have to understand trump.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:18 PM   #1369
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So, it seems that there are dozens of staffers in the White House without security clearances.
After a year.

It's widely reported that Trump doesn’t read his daily intelligence briefing but Jared Kushner and others who don’t have security clearances do.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:23 PM   #1370
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
So, it seems that there are dozens of staffers in the White House without security clearances.
After a year.

It's widely reported that Trump doesn’t read his daily intelligence briefing but Jared Kushner and others who don’t have security clearances do.
You think the FBI would give kushner a security clearance after he lied about his contacts with the russians on pervious security form? But they can't refuse to give him clearance because it isn't their job to fire him and it ultimately is the presidents call on all security arrangements.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:28 PM   #1371
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You think the FBI would give kushner a security clearance after he lied about his contacts with the russians on pervious security form? But they can't refuse to give him clearance because it isn't their job to fire him and it ultimately is the presidents call on all security arrangements.
This is why we elect the executive and don't grant departments like the FBI final authority.
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Old 12th February 2018, 12:31 PM   #1372
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
You think the FBI would give kushner a security clearance after he lied about his contacts with the russians on pervious security form? But they can't refuse to give him clearance because it isn't their job to fire him and it ultimately is the presidents call on all security arrangements.
I know it's just a felicitous misprint, but I suspect that Kushner is more "pervious" than the authors of the form.
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Old 12th February 2018, 01:38 PM   #1373
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
So, it seems that there are dozens of staffers in the White House without security clearances.
After a year.

It's widely reported that Trump doesn’t read his daily intelligence briefing but Jared Kushner and others who don’t have security clearances do.
That would be criminal.
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That would be criminal.
Not if Trump authorized it.
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Old 12th February 2018, 02:37 PM   #1376
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Does anyone believe Trump could get a top level security clearance if the POTUS was required to get one?

Of course Trump doesn't give a rip about anyone else's clearance in his admin.
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Old 12th February 2018, 02:42 PM   #1377
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Not the least bit surprising.

Once again while CNN and MSNBC are going on and on about Kelly's "40 minutes he was out" vs Suckabie's "24 hours", no one is asking, "didn't the FBI see the photo?" Surely they saw the police reports and restraining order.

The reporters never call these people on their lies to their faces. Wusses!
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This is just Trump defending himself against his own accusers.
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Old 12th February 2018, 03:23 PM   #1379
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So, it seems that there are dozens of staffers in the White House without security clearances.
After a year.

It's widely reported that Trump doesn’t read his daily intelligence briefing but Jared Kushner and others who don’t have security clearances do.
They have temporary clearances. Certainly not a good situation late in the term, but not the sane as having no clearances.
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They have temporary clearances. Certainly not a good situation late in the term, but not the sane as having no clearances.
I expect this is a permanent solution. They would almost certainly fail clearance, which is worse than not having one.

Perpetually renewing temporary clearances is the only way to get around this.
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Old 12th February 2018, 03:39 PM   #1381
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They have temporary clearances. Certainly not a good situation late in the term, but not the sane as having no clearances.
But the temporary clearance is based on the premise that someone the President wants in the White House is presumed to be suitable during a clearance process that, according to press accounts, takes four to six weeks. Once negative information is revealed, the person should either be booted out, or someone at the top should make an affirmative decision that the revealed criminal record, bad debts, spousal abuse, Russian deals etc. aren't terrible enough to be disqualifying. Either way, "temporary" isn't supposed to be a work-around.
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Trump's fund set up to pay the legal bills of people caught up in the Russia investigation allows the money donated to it to be funnelled into his re-election campaign
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It's being reported that Rachel Brand is leaving her position at the DOJ because she was "frustrated" about the vacancies Trump has left unfilled for more than a year, and because she feared Rosenstein would be got rid of, leaving her to oversee the Russia investigation
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They have temporary clearances. Certainly not a good situation late in the term, but not the sane as having no clearances.
Other than Trump said it was OK, what's the actual difference between no clearance and a temp clearance?
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He is now but not when he told Kelly the wife beating thing was going to be a problem.
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The creature can't even be ethical when he is defending himself from charges of being unethical.
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Account suspended.
It was a fake account.
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Trump and White House: not interesting. He will surround himself with people who pretend to praise him. All irtelevant. As long as there is a messenger to run over to Trump from Congress with stufffor him to sign and a tweet explainer, that is all he needs.
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Other than Trump said it was OK, what's the actual difference between no clearance and a temp clearance?
Theoretically, a temp clearance limits the access that the employee has to the highest levels of secrets. In practice, especially in the Trump White House, they probably don't make much of a distinction.

Big problems throughout the security clearance process:
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Murderers, rapists and pedophiles are just some of the people who were reportedly given top-secret security clearances by the federal government as it faces a huge bureaucratic backlog.
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Theoretically, a temp clearance limits the access that the employee has to the highest levels of secrets. In practice, especially in the Trump White House, they probably don't make much of a distinction.
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He is now but not when he told Kelly the wife beating thing was going to be a problem.
Did he actually tell Kelly that he had beaten his wives? Or did he just tell Kelly something like "my crazy ex-wives are trying to screw me over, but you shouldn't believe a word of it." I suspect it's the latter.
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Porter's first wife shares some thoughts about the impact of domestic abuse.
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Did he actually tell Kelly that he had beaten his wives? Or did he just tell Kelly something like "my crazy ex-wives are trying to screw me over, but you shouldn't believe a word of it." I suspect it's the latter.
... which would make alarm bells ring for a competent Chief of staff.
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I wonder how much Soros and Killary paid for this hit piece.
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It was a fake account.
I noticed some claims in the comments that the account was fake. I allow for that possibility but as the quotes have been repeated (many times) by news organizations my first assumption is that they have been vetted.
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I noticed some claims in the comments that the account was fake. I allow for that possibility but as the quotes have been repeated (many times) by news organizations my first assumption is that they have been vetted.
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What if that's the fake (or non-related) account? I'm expecting a clarification very soon.
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