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4th May 2020, 07:48 AM | #761 |
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Not seeing an issue - at her oldest, she'd be 78 during her second primary, close to what Dolt 45, Biden, *and* Sanders are now. And the idea of Massachusetts as a stronghold for wild-eyed MAGAts is ridiculous. The only reason Scott Brown managed to get anywhere was due to an astoundingly poor opponent - and Warren quickly ran directly over him.
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4th May 2020, 08:33 AM | #762 |
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Re: Warren as a potential VP...
Yes, she is younger than Biden/Sanders is now, and would be about the same age range during later primaries. But, when you get near that age, any potential health issues get magnified. Hillary coughed once, and Republicans made it seem like she was at death's door. Biden messed up a couple of words and BernieBros are accusing him of senility. Plus, being president tends to age a politician. And while she is healthy now, she's getting pretty close to the average life expectancy of Americans.... its an increased risk that I would rather not see them take.
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A Warren or Sanders presidency could cost Democrats a Senate seat (NBC News) And even the special election is a risk. You suggested that the Republicans were only able to get Scott Brown elected because the Democrats picked a poor candidate...there is no guarantee that the same thing won't happen in any special election. (It is a low risk, but the risk is still there.)
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In the 2020 election, they would have Biden at the top of the ticket (for older and African American voters), and a younger VP (for the younger voters, whatever small number will be influenced by a VP pick). In 2024 (or 2028 if Biden does stick around for 2 terms), his VP (and probable nominee) will hopefully have Biden's coat tails to help them in the general election to help with older voters. (Plus, whomever Biden picks as VP will be 4 or 8 years older anyways.) |
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4th May 2020, 09:11 AM | #763 |
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There's no problem with considering how to try to draw more young voters. He already has all the old ones he can get. Adding more voters to that would make him more likely to win; failing to add more would make him less likely to win. With the old vote already wrapped up, the only ones left to try to add are younger. The fact that getting one group and not the other would nearly certainly fail in almost any case has no relevance to a real world that isn't all-or-nothing on this kind of thing and never has been.
The problem is not the idea of trying... the problem is that Biden has no apparent way to really do it. He's already openly announced his contempt for young adults and spent his career working against their interests since even before some of them were born, personally causing some of the major problems in their lives that he's now telling them they don't really have. What can he do now to reverse all that in a few months? Nominating somebody who happens to be young will do nothing because candidate age is just not something young voters care about. Nominating somebody who would push for policies the young want won't happen because he sees that kind of Democrat as more of an enemy than the Republicans, and might not help even if he did because young voters know who Biden is and would know he didn't really mean it and was just pandering. If anything it might taint that VP candidate as apparently having turned against them instead. |
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