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17th July 2018, 11:55 AM | #121 |
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Obama is not the President, even if he looms ever larger as the far greater authority on democracy and the rule of law. Bears repeating: Black man, a greater authority than bully white man. (Enjoy!) Regardless, irrelevant to the argument. There is substantiated evidence of a severe and ongoing attack on constitutional democracy, and Trump took a knee. Cowardice and weakness themselves took another, in what may by rights be called Trump's Epic Flail. A pink hanky waving retreat on the world stage. Beat, and bad.
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17th July 2018, 12:45 PM | #122 |
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It was right up to the line. Certainly, I've never seen a president in my lifetime do anything like that.
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17th July 2018, 01:26 PM | #123 |
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18th July 2018, 03:08 AM | #124 |
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18th July 2018, 03:11 AM | #125 |
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18th July 2018, 04:58 AM | #126 |
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18th July 2018, 05:24 AM | #127 |
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18th July 2018, 05:25 AM | #128 |
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18th July 2018, 05:26 AM | #129 |
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Russian Defence Ministry issues statement that Russia "is ready for the practical implementation of agreements in the area of global security reached in Helsinki between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump"
As yet, the only Americans who know what was said in the meeting are Trump and the translator. |
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18th July 2018, 05:33 AM | #130 |
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"I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic |
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18th July 2018, 05:38 AM | #131 |
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Am I wrong that the Intelligence community that Trump doubts, included James Clapper at the time of the hacking?
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18th July 2018, 05:43 AM | #132 |
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18th July 2018, 06:05 AM | #133 |
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My oh my, how the frightards cut and run from the facts. Even denials have the lies built in:
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18th July 2018, 06:30 AM | #134 |
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Can you imagine any scenario, where Trump stands there and throws Putin under the bus in front of the media?
Options 1. You call Putin a liar and go back to the path that isn't working, media attacks for lack of diplomacy. 2. You show Putin you are not calling him a liar in public, and build a relationship with the adversary. Media attacks you anyway. You take option 2 everytime. |
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18th July 2018, 06:34 AM | #135 |
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18th July 2018, 06:35 AM | #136 |
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18th July 2018, 06:49 AM | #137 |
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18th July 2018, 07:14 AM | #139 |
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That implies the person presenting the argument didn't know that in the first place, which he did. It's crazy that Trump has stood on both sides of this issue already, and his supporters have tried to cover for him both times. That can't be healthy to constantly have to betray yourself just to support this *******.
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18th July 2018, 07:26 AM | #140 |
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Keep in mind, that wording was created by people actively trying to protect Trump. Other sources, including both Democrats on that same committee and both Republicans and Democrats on the Senate committee are more specific and say that Russia was trying to help Trump win the election.
While preferred could mean that, you are correct in thinking that it’s more open to interpretation than what the intelligence community is actually saying. The use of softer less specific terminology is probably no accident. This type of terminology is less threatening and less likely to create negative sentiment towards Trump while still being a technically valid description of what the intelligence community says happened. |
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18th July 2018, 07:29 AM | #141 |
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18th July 2018, 11:12 AM | #142 |
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https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/...20180790530049
[quote]BREAKING Q: "Is Russia still targeting the U.S.?" Trump: "No." Just now in the Cabinet meeting.[quote] https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/...20571661918208
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18th July 2018, 11:20 AM | #143 |
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18th July 2018, 11:29 AM | #144 |
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18th July 2018, 11:56 AM | #146 |
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You support the guy who, bragging about the great intelligence he had access to, gave away state secrets to the Russian Ambassador and the Russian Foreign Minister shortly after his inauguration in a meeting in the Oval Office he kicked the American Press out of.
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18th July 2018, 12:16 PM | #147 |
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18th July 2018, 12:26 PM | #148 |
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I see Sanders is now claiming Trump's response of "no", when asked if Russia is still targeting the United States ahead of this year's congressional elections, really meant he wasn't going to answer any more questions. Yet he did.
The WH is counting on the American people to be stupid enough to believe that along with Trump's ridiculous "would" vs "wouldn't" excuse yesterday. Sadly, they have some grounds to base that on. |
18th July 2018, 12:30 PM | #149 |
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Did the CIA/FBI leak fake intel to trump, and only trump prior to the putin meeting; when it comes back from putin to the FBI/CIA, payback time. After taking a brad pitt (or is it a donald trump now) on the FBI and CIA, what is like to be treated like the enemy of the people like the free press.
Who has the football stealth listening device. Poor trump, had no real football to give putin since he also took a donald trump on the NFL. He can't to this, "We call it soccer, oh, but let me give you are real football, a maga football (rugby? ___)" Get back to work all your "haters and losers", trump supports don't have to make up the insults, trump is the leader of insults, and name calling, the cult leader. http://ew.com/tv/2017/07/07/donald-trump-haters-tweets/ No need for independent thinking, just repeat fearless leaders words. |
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18th July 2018, 12:52 PM | #150 |
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I just want to make sure you're clear on something. Putin has told the Russian defense minister about agreements he reached with Trump on Monday. We don't know if our own defense department knows. It's dubious that Trump could even articulate those agreements with any clarity. Is Trump obliged to tell the public anything about them? Probably not. But is he obliged to tell his Secretary of State and Defense Department? It takes some incredibly twisted logic to think that Russia's cabinet ministers should know things that America's cabinet doesn't.
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18th July 2018, 12:54 PM | #151 |
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.@maggieNYT asks @WHPressSec abt Russia’s call to intv @Billbrowder & @McFaul: “Pres will meet w/ his team & we’ll let you know when we have an announcement on that front.” Acknowledges the topic was discussed privately bween Trump & Putin. Democrats should introduce articles of impeachment over this to if nothing else forcing the GOP to defend it on record. He agreed to hand over innocent US and British citizens to a murderous regime. |
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18th July 2018, 01:39 PM | #154 |
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18th July 2018, 02:56 PM | #155 |
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19th July 2018, 03:38 AM | #156 |
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19th July 2018, 03:39 AM | #157 |
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19th July 2018, 03:42 AM | #158 |
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Russia says that the idea of questioning the interpreter at the Trump/Putin meeting threatens “the whole idea of diplomacy"
Reminder: One of the things it appears Trump has agreed to with Putin is allowing Russian agents to question a former diplomat who has committed no crime about incidents that happened while he had diplomatic immunity. |
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19th July 2018, 04:17 AM | #159 |
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Not just "a diplomat," but the U.S. ambassador to Russia. Putin also wants Trump to give him Bill Browder, the force behind the Magnitsky Act.
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