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14th April 2020, 06:17 PM | #41 |
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Indiana congressman, Republican Rep. Trey Hollingsworth, says a higher death toll from COVID-19 is the lesser of two evils when compared to a 20% drop in the Gross Domestic Product in a financial quarter.
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I should feel refreshed that the subtext is becoming the text. Generally speaking I'll take honest evil over passive aggressive dishonest evil anytime.
I still don't though. |
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So much for the claim that the halting of abortions in TX was due to not wanting to take away PPE, other essentials to fight Covid 19 and hospital beds:
The order also prohibited medical abortions which require none of the above. A woman takes two pills in early pregnancy and basically has a heavy period. A TX judge just threw the ban on medical abortions out. This was just another way that TX is trying to prevent women from having abortions. |
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no punishment, women having casual sex as much as anyone else, they should have the responsibility to handle the weight of their actions. Life threatening situations regarding abortion bear the need for care the others should lessened in priority. Spare me the liberal nonsense otherwise.
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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I gotta say the Right's...
Step 1: Do/say something evil. Step 2: Wait for someone to go "That's evil, stop doing it." Step 3: Tell the person they are being hyperbolic. Step 4: Keep being evil ...strategy is working better then I thought. |
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Tell that to the folk whose diets and lifestyles lead to heart disease and diabetes, to take just two bad outcomes that can lead to ongoing strain on the medical system. That consumes a hell of a lot more resources than conducting abortions, and results in good part from lack of discipline. Yet you get your knickers in a twist over women's reproductive rights.
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and yet aborting the kid is the only option, so much love behind that notion. Right.....
The trouble with all this noise, is that abortion shouldn't be treated as black and white, but case by case and granular is scope, but all I see the liberal end doing is in black and white terms. And false nazification of any who disagree with that black and white notion. |
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Carrying a child to term uses far far far far far far far more medical resources than an abortion. Also far far far.... far more dangerous and unsafe.
If medical capacity is the controlling issue, the government should be even more supportive of abortions than usual. |
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It's not a responsibility angle in any meaningful way.
What has happened is that there is a service, abortion, which is normally available. It is a service that cannot be put off. There is a time limit. It is a service that has a major impact on a person's life. So, it is normally available, it has a time limit, and has a major impact on someone's life. So, should it continue to be available. The answer ought to be yes, unless its continued availability is jeopardizing other people's lives. Can you say, with a straight face, that the continued availability of abortions constitutes a sufficiently extreme risk to either providers or recipients of the service that continuing to off that service is something that ought to be prohibited? I'm prepared to say that about, for example, restaurant food. I miss eating at restaurants, but under the circumstances, it risks the health of patrons and providers. While I enjoy restaurant food, the lack of it will have no impact on my life in the post-pandemic world. Therefore, I'm ok with banning it. Can you say the same about abortions? Is there any other service that has those three characteristics, Normally available, Time limited, Major impact on life, which has been restricted, or ought to be restricted, due to the pandemic? I can't think of any. It seems to me that some politicians who do not want abortions to be available, ever, are taking advantage of the epidemic to push an unrelated agenda. |
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We can do all sorts of absurd things by shifting meanings and considering a zygote or fetus to be a child.
If a child did to someone what a fetus does to the mother carrying it we would condone any force necessary to escape or prevent the situation. Which is no less an absurd way to look at this than is claiming a fetus is a child. |
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But that's just absurd. Do you think the "beds" in an abortion clinic would suddenly be made available to stroke patients now that abortion is ruled non-essential? It's a phony argument. Abortion is an outpatient procedure generally conducted in a facility specific for that purpose.
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How is it legal for a politician to use tax payers money in a crisis and then put his name on it?
Does that mean democrats can do that too? Especially during election years? |
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********, when theres a shortage of beds theirs are as good as any for helping to stem the curve. Nothing absurd about it. Whats absurd is the obsession of one type treatment when all could be potentially impacted by the pandemic. Never mind there's a rising number of Covid patients each day, just keep flushing fetuses. That's absurd.
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