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15th April 2020, 11:00 AM | #121 |
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15th April 2020, 11:12 AM | #123 |
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A rich fop doesn't need $1.7 mil that he'll just salt away anyway. But spread that out to 1,700 lower income people getting a grand apiece, and that's far better for the economy. Not to mention more humane. And more efficient in terms of spreading the love, so to speak. And better for fostering goodwill among the populace, which is generally a good thing when seeking re-election.
But nope. The powers that be prefer to dole out the 'charity for the rich'; that's the Republican version of socialism. Screw the little people. |
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15th April 2020, 11:22 AM | #125 |
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Noooo! Giving away money to poor people in need is communism.
Apparently giving away money to rich people isn't. Go figure.
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15th April 2020, 11:45 AM | #127 |
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15th April 2020, 11:54 AM | #128 |
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15th April 2020, 11:58 AM | #129 |
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15th April 2020, 12:34 PM | #130 |
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Oh, I know. THe GOP figured out decades ago that they weren't going to change enough opinions about abortion to get anything resembling a majority, so they have been working steadily since to whittle away at limiting access and putting in restrictions.
Of late, they've been straight up 'as-good-as-banned' methods to their restrictions. Even worse is they often disguise the bills with Orwellian names like "Women's Health Care Initiative" and other creative doublespeak names. COVID19 is just another opportunity. The fact that RockySmith acts like there is a legitimate medical use for these facilities in the fight against COVID19 shows either pig-ignorance of medical facilities or blind allegiance to a right-wing cause. Given his telling "keep your legs shut, whore!" comment earlier I'm gonna assume the latter. |
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15th April 2020, 02:10 PM | #131 |
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I really have no idea why you think abortion should be singled out and made special during an outbreak. Except you have hinted at pregnancies being punishment on women for having sex, and apparently think that telling pregnant women to not have gotten pregnant in the first place is in any way useful instructions. How about you answer the question about why a time-limited procedure that greatly reduces an individual's risk in a full-blown pandemic is actually non-essential and can wait for six months to a year?
People, please stop talking about abortion clinics. There are no abortion clinics. What Republicans are foaming at the mouth over are medical clinics aimed at protecting the reproductive health of low income men and women. Prenatal care, STD testing, routine checkups, treatment that people aren't going to be able to afford at a dermatology clinic and not enough of an emergency for urgent care. One of the Planned Parenthood shops protested and shuttered never performed a single abortion but that wasn't good enough. |
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15th April 2020, 02:24 PM | #132 |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-epidemic.html
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15th April 2020, 02:25 PM | #133 |
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Gunter Haas, the 'leading British expert,' was a graphologist who advised couples, based on their handwriting characteristics, if they were compatible for marriage. I would submit that couples idiotic enough to do this are probably quite suitable for each other. It's nice when stupid people find love. - Ludovic Kennedy |
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15th April 2020, 03:44 PM | #137 |
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Good point. I forgot about whom we're talking here.
Steve Doocy: Trump gave him a 12 out of 10 for loyalty. He was also accused by Gretchen Carlson in her lawsuit against Roger: "Doocy engaged in a pattern and practice of severe and pervasive sexual harassment of Carlson, including, but not limited to, mocking her during commercial breaks, shunning her off air, refusing to engage with her on air, belittling her contributions to the show, and generally attempting to put her in her place by refusing to accept and treat her as an intelligent and insightful female journalist rather than a blond female prop."
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15th April 2020, 03:45 PM | #138 |
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15th April 2020, 04:02 PM | #140 |
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So is this the anything re US politics and if relevant to coronavirus that's a bonus thread? Because I don't want to post off-topic.
I was annoyed the news media isn't addressing this issue so I went looking for the answer myself. No surprises found. Fact check: President Donald Trump vs. the World Health Organization
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These are the sources they cited: White House media briefings World Health Organization statements U.S. Centers for Disease Control Thomas J. Bollyky, Council on Foreign Relations Think Global Health, a unit of Council on Foreign Relations Yanzhong Huang, Seton Hall University |
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15th April 2020, 04:38 PM | #142 |
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[nitpick]I know this forum is less open to theological pedantry than most, but the purported Immaculate Conception was the conception of Mary, not Jesus. The biological mechanics were the same as for everyone else because Mary's parents were both humans, the magical bit was that somehow they didn't pass Original Sin to Mary.[/nitpick]
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15th April 2020, 04:51 PM | #143 |
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TM, I've read this three times and I'm still confused. I know I'm not the most versed when it comes to christian mythology... but I thought the whole thing was that Mary was a virgin untouched by man, but still managed to get knocked up by god. Your post reads like it's something totally different?
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15th April 2020, 05:02 PM | #144 |
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It is. Separate event. Mary's parents, Sts Joachim and Anne, were normal humans. They banged in the normal fashion. However, Mary, being the future mother of the messiah, couldn't inherit Original Sin from them because then she'd pass it on to Jesus. So God miraculously intervened in Mary's conception, so she was the only human born free of Original Sin. That made her sufficiently "pure" to eventually serve as the human incubator for God's son/other personality/clone that was Jesus.
This is a purely Catholic doctrine, by the way, and it's only official since the 1850s. It was invented to get Catholic theology out of the corner of how Mary could be human and yet her kid not inherit Original Sin, which was supposed to be inherent to all humans after Adam and Eve. It's pretty much akin to just saying "magic happened!" but that's kind of par for the course for theology. It's asking too much for theology to maintain logical consistency when it's all wacky craziness in the first place. |
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15th April 2020, 05:24 PM | #146 |
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When many people hear the term "Immaculate Conception," they think it refers to the conception of Jesus. It doesn't—it refers to the conception of his mother Mary. Christian theology states every person is born with what's referred to as "original sin," which could be problematic for a young woman who is supposed to be carrying the Son of God. So Roman Catholic (and others? don't know) theology states that Mary herself was immaculately conceived, and thus did not carry the burden of original sin, and therefore was a pure vessel for the Son of God.
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15th April 2020, 05:40 PM | #148 |
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Yep, it's surprising how many confuse the Immaculate Conception with the Virgin Birth ( birth of Jesus to the Virgin Mary).
I'm an atheist but I knew that. |
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In addition: Early reports are coming in, Trump's wishful thinking silver bullet isn't. No evidence of clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 infection with oxygen requirement: results of a study using routinely collected data to emulate a target trial
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15th April 2020, 06:02 PM | #150 |
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Are you trying to tell us that (not a )Dr. Trump was blowing it out of his ****?
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15th April 2020, 06:16 PM | #151 |
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I would have been happy if it worked. But we all know how valid a couple anecdotal stories are to draw a conclusion from. I have already said, with as many people using this drug we would have known by now if it was working even without controlled trials. Such reports of success are not forthcoming. |
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Of course, it was silly to think it was going to be the silver bullet that people claimed. As a viral illness, wouldn't you think that, at best, it might work something like Tamiflu? I mean, we know Tamiflu works and stuff, but still tens of thousands of people die each year from the flu.
And think about cold medications. You might get some help with symptoms, but it's not like there are cures. Unless you can use a anti-histamine to dry things up, but that's a completely different situation. Why should we expect anything dramatic with a COVID medication? |
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A lot of people think that, but TragicMonkey is absolutely correct. The Immaculate Conception was the conception of Mary, not Jesus.
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15th April 2020, 07:17 PM | #155 |
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Going back to Kellyanne Conway's stupid "covid 19" statement, you know who made the same stupid statement? That (completely unearned) receiver of the Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh:
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Speaking of the WWE, Trump has appointed Vince McMahon to an advisory group dedicated to re-starting the economy
In the mean time, Vince's response to the pandemic has been to fire a bunch of employees. |
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16th April 2020, 01:48 AM | #158 |
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A bit of a loose fit for this thread, but probably better here than anywhere else: 60,000 protest Michigan stay-at-home order with a rally. Many were armed, and all were ignoring social distancing.
Two things the article doesn't mention that I've seen reported elsewhere: People were actually travelling from different states to join in, and the "causing gridlock" part of the protest blocked ambulances from getting in to hospitals. I hope there are criminal charges for as many people involved as possible. |
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