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16th April 2020, 10:28 AM | #201 |
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There's a picture going around the newswire of protesters pressed up against the door glass at the Ohio statehouse and it's literally indistinguishable from a scene from a zombie movie. It's straight up the cover art to the Shaun of the Dead DVD.
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16th April 2020, 10:36 AM | #205 |
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16th April 2020, 10:41 AM | #207 |
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I think 'brain dead' is a pretty accurate description of those idiots.
I bet these idiots stop taking their full regimen of antibiotics as soon as they start to feel better despite the instructions on the bottle, too. That bottle can't tell me what to do! |
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The way I read the order, I'm not sure it's legal to enter Michigan from another state right now, with the exception of current Michigan residents who are returning home from another state.
Of course, that doesn't apply to people on essential business, as defined by the order. I suppose it couldn't hurt. Based on our rate of infection, I would be more worried about people coming from Michigan than people going to Michigan. Something that would be more effective, and I'm sure much more popular with the people at the protest, would be banning inter-county travel within Michigan. We have a lot of cases, but almost all of them are in the three counties that make up the Detroit metro area.
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If I go to the grocery store and buy food, I am allowed to take it to my mother. However, if I just go to mom's house, without the food, that's illegal. Does that make any sense? Even if it does "make sense', I.e. there is some logic to it, is that a good idea? And, who gets to answer that question? This is a case where reasonable people could disagree on the answer. Some people might demand a strict, no questions asked, stay at home order, whereas others might be willing to make certain exceptions for small group gatherings, especially of related individuals. Discussing separation of powers is pretty dry stuff, but I contend that handing that power to the executive branch, embodied by a single person, makes less sense than empowering the legislative branch through the normal legislative process.* Your argument above seems to be that if the legislature would not go along with it, then the executive can act anyway. What's the point of having a legislature, then? Well, we also have a judicial branch and, to no one's surprise, the governor is being sued, so the courts will sort it out, if they can do so before the restrictions are lifted and the suit is rendered moot. *ETA: In other words, I trust congress more than Trump. |
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Hoo boy. My best friend's daughter is planning a wedding about 9 weeks from now, in an area close to Detroit. They haven't canceled or postponed it yet, despite everything that's going on. This will have people coming (if it happens) from all over the country. People have to make plans. She's told him they are planning as if there'll be no issues, but knows full well there will likely be issues. The venues are all paid, but are will to work with everyone given the circumstances, but postponement means accepting whatever date is available in the future, since others have already scheduled events well into the future. And now there's all new restrictions. Granted, two months from now things could be on the way back to normal, orrrrr... I feel for her, him, his wife, and their future son-in-law.
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I see Pinocchio the Wooden Man-boy is giving his usual, "Ain't I done good?" presser speech in his own inimitable "I don't understand what I'm reading" style. Whenever he's just reading, he becomes stilted and monotone but when be goes off script you see a notable difference in how he sounds and looks.
Incredible, like never seen before, tremendous, early and aggressive action, no person who needed a ventilator has been denied one, greatest economy in the history of the world, great again, war, war, war, media falsely reported, blah blah blah. This concludes my rally. Trump 2020!
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16th April 2020, 03:17 PM | #219 |
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Trump is hinting at using the Swedish model, shelter high risk people, everyone can go out and get infected. He also still imagines this is going away in the summer.
He's such an ass. After being told he cannot tell the states what to do, he's now saying he gives them permission to do what they decide. He's going on about the incredibly long way we've come in treatment. I don't believe he mentioned hydroxychloroquine. He's repeating the lie/distortion we've done more testing than any other country. Rate of coronavirus (COVID-19) tests performed in select countries worldwide as of April 15, 2020 (per thousand population)* We are far down on the list. Now Pence is praising Trump's bold actions.... yada yada. |
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I wonder if he considers himself to be high risk? On the one hand he's got a reputation as a germaphobe, on the other hand he's got a history of being in denial about his own health. He also enjoys flying in the face of all expert advice to the contrary (see: total eclipses of the sun, don't stare directly into).
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16th April 2020, 03:36 PM | #224 |
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I wonder if Dr Birx is aware the ILI monitoring system is normally is shut down from May through Oct?
She is suggesting we can use it to surveil COVID cases now that flu has subsided. |
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Watching the difference between Trump just answering questions and reading is like watching two different people.
Did anyone notice that when Trump was asked what he would say to the Michigan protesters that he never actually answered the question? He danced all around it. |
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When was the last time he actually answered a question that he was asked?
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Food for thought...
I'm confident the Opening Our Country Council is weighing numbers similar to [Dr. Oz's economy/death calculus] where Oz says he figures 15 million dead Americans is just the eggs you gotta break to puff up Wall St.'s omelette. Are all those Obamacare-haters who voted for Trump going to recognize that they elected the first president to actually establish a national scale Death Panel? |
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We could definitely use a vaccine, for sure. Tamiflu is a 'game-changer' not because it prevents all deaths from flu when used, but because it shortens symptom duration by up to 50%--greatly reducing the time the virus can multiply and making it easier for your immune system to fight it. Does have some side effects, some rare nasty ones too.
The malaria/lupus drug doesn't have ANY impact on covid19. NONE. AND it has nasty side effects in the best of cases, not even rarely. We mustn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, but the drug isn't even good. It doesn't work. Those advocates all *need* it to be a game changer, a miracle cure, something effective, but it's nothing of the sort. |
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Do you want to join the economic council that Trump wanted to set up to advise him on re-opening the economy? Well, you might already be a member and not know it!
From: https://www.salon.com/2020/04/16/sht...em-a-heads-up/ Trump announced that he would form several "Great American Economic Revival Industry Groups" and read off a long list of agriculture executives, bankers, labor leaders, defense contractors, energy firms, health care executives, restaurateurs and other business leaders. But many of the people on the list did not learn that they were part of the White House effort until they heard their names read on TV... ... Some of the executives were so blindsided they were unable to participate in Wednesday's calls... One executive who participated in the call described it to the outlet as a "***** show." Others pushed back on Trump's calls to quickly lift coronavirus restrictions in order to reopen the economy. Of course, who wouldn't jump at the chance to work with Trump. Nothing bad could ever come from working with an incompetent con-man who will listen to the advice of experts, then promptly ignore that advice and do what his "instincts" tell him to do (even if what he wants to do is illegal). |
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...who should self-isolate for 14 days.
Even more stringent restrictions are possible, and should be welcomed (I would certainly welcome them in the UK). See how Greece is handling it, for example. They have 10 deaths per million population. Or, to put it another way, 21 times fewer than Michigan (which has risen to 210 since yesterday).
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