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5th May 2020, 05:17 PM | #81 |
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5th May 2020, 05:18 PM | #82 |
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Certain snowflakes certainly seem to get upset easily by people of color saying stuff they have to try hard to take offense at.
Oh, and it wouldn't surprise me to hear Melanie saying the same thing. She has a history of that. |
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6th May 2020, 03:47 AM | #85 |
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It is clearly time for a re-cap of the nonsense that you have been posting in this thread ...
First, you claim that Michelle Obama called herself "America's Forever First Lady" as based on a news item from two years ago. Second, you state that the whole issue is "mildly amusing" and/or "silly". Third, you fail to read your own citation which clearly states that it was someone else who called Michelle Obama "America's Forever First Lady". Fourth, you lie when state Michelle Obama calls herself "America's Forever First Lady". So whatever your problem is, do us all a favor and resolve it. |
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6th May 2020, 04:32 AM | #89 |
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Well when you are committed to treating Donald Trump as being fit for office you have to come up with some distraction when Trump's decided to turn the USA into an all you can eat buffet for Covid-19
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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This one's much better!
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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theprestige there was a time, many moons gone by, when I disagreed with a lot of your positions but at least felt you came to them with some sort of reasoning. It seems you have now joined Space Force. Your efforts at justifying this ridiculous claim is certainly out of this world.
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7th May 2020, 04:44 AM | #102 |
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So far, I have seen two claims of yours that would fit such a definition:
The first involved how Michelle Obama called herself "America's Forever First Lady"; when she did nothing of the sort. And the second involved your boggle about how Michelle Obama addressed a group of people about two years ago without wearing a face mask of some sort; which was well before the current Corona Virus issues. |
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7th May 2020, 07:39 AM | #104 |
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Whatever my "problem" was (honestly it seems like more of a problem for you than for me), it was resolved all the way back at your second point.
Your third point is false. She also used the term to describe herself. Your fourth point has already been addressed. Whatever your problem is, I hope this resolves it. |
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The issue has not been resolved.
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I think it's mildly amusing and kind of silly. That resolves it as far as I'm concerned. I never had much of a problem to begin with. Your level of concern about this whole thing far exceeds my own.
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Do you think there's anything seriously wrong with Michelle Obama telling people she's their forever first lady? Do you think there's anything seriously wrong with her picking up Nick Cannon's idea of her being a forever first lady and running with it? I don't. I think it's mildly amusing and a little bit silly. You seem to be taking it a lot more seriously than I am. Hell, at this point I think maybe you're taking it a lot more seriously than Michelle Obama did. |
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I'm still confused about what the topic of this thread actually is...
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7th May 2020, 09:09 AM | #109 |
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Don't vote for Michelle Obama to be First Lady, she's super arrogant about it. This one time a maid didn't curtsey deep enough so Michelle Obama picked her up and threw her out of a second story window onto a staircase, and when the maid finished rolling down the staircase Michelle was already waiting at the bottom to drag her back up it and push her down again.
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OK then. Thanks for the clarification.
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If we are to take the quote literally then this is a logical statement of the form 'if a then b'. Michelle Obama did not state categorically that she was 'your forever first lady', only that if she could be then everyone in the audience could do anything they 'put their mind to'. Since just 'putting your mind to' something doesn't mean you can do it, the condition ('standing here as your forever first lady') likely evaluates to false.
But she started the sentence with "I know that you are me". Clearly this was not meant literally, therefore we can presume the rest was not literal either. So just as 'you are me' doesn't mean multiple people are literally the same person, so 'your forever fist lady' doesn't literally mean the Forever First Lady, but merely a first lady whom members of the audience might consider to be 'theirs'. So clearly this was not an attempt to claim the title of Forever First Lady, but just a typical motivational speech that you might hear anywhere. I don't think it was 'amusing' or 'silly' so in that respect yes, I think you should take it more 'seriously'. Do you think that motivational speeches in general are 'amusing' or 'silly'? If so then you should rethink - because they work (and not always in a good way). Whether you agree with the content or not, you should take it seriously because people are motivated by them. But I don't think that is your reason. There are plenty of other speeches you could have chosen as examples, so why this one? What makes it stand out from the others enough to warrant starting this thread? Knowing your posting history I can guess the answer - partisanship. The OP says more about you than Michelle Obama.
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