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24th May 2020, 10:27 AM | #161 |
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And the few Republicans who thought they could do a 25th Amendment read up on it and learned that not only do you need 2/3 of the Senate and the House, you need the VP to put his signature on it. I believe it would be easier to get Trump’s signature on a paper saying Trump was too crazy to hold office than it would be to get Pence’s signature on that paper.
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24th May 2020, 10:30 AM | #162 |
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With the proviso that, by "fair number of Republicans," we're talking about the rank-and-file, I would agree that a lot, even most of them, are people with intelligence and integrity- I just don't think it's necessary to demonize people with whom I simply don't agree on politics; even aside from the utility of it, it's painting with too broad a brush to call them stupid or mean, the same sort of brush they use when they paint liberals as evil commies (or whatever). As for the intelligence of McConnell and others- my questions are predicated on that assumption, it's the integrity I doubt.
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24th May 2020, 10:39 AM | #163 |
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Well, as alfaniner says, there are probably going to be plenty who will be willing to go on the record like that after the ****-show is over. They may truly believe they are doing the best thing for the country by doing the best thing for their party- but I would just counter that that sort of argument depends on seeing the priorities backward, and that a party that depends so heavily on one lunatic's approval maybe isn't worth the saving.
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24th May 2020, 10:49 AM | #164 |
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24th May 2020, 10:54 AM | #165 |
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Can I get some help please? After Trump insisted everyone should go back to church, I assumed there’d be footage of him attending a large, public service this morning.
Can’t seem to find it, does anyone know if he went to church? |
24th May 2020, 11:11 AM | #166 |
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I always stand with leaders who weren’t afraid to stand early with me. That’s why I am supporting a true conservative, @DanJohnstonND for State Treasurer of North Dakota! Cases, numbers and deaths are going down all over the Country! |
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24th May 2020, 11:31 AM | #169 |
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24th May 2020, 11:36 AM | #170 |
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Maybe they are taking the stance of a pro - that is, a pro will do what has to be done to promote your team - like a sports team - and everyone knows that tough stuff has to be put up with because that's how the game is played, no hard feelings. Politics is a rough business.
I am NOT endorsing this approach, only ID'ing it for what it is, and putting it out as part of the reason, perhaps, for our current insanity. Understanding that politics is dirty business is one thing, but it's also about running a country, too, with actual people in it who suffer or benefit by playing the dirty game. |
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24th May 2020, 12:30 PM | #176 |
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Hmmm. I never thought of it from that perspective.
What I described is the equivalent of saying, I would rather give explicit and implicit support to a chuckle-headed president who is willing to endanger the country rather than admit the tiniest of flaws than to have one single democrat added to the House of Representatives. eta what I described could also be motivated by saying as bad as Toddler-In-Chief is, Pence would be worse so I won’t speak out. |
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24th May 2020, 12:33 PM | #177 |
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When I was growing up, a lot of Americans held to the notion, "Politics ends at the water's edge". That is, when dealing with other countries, you stood together as Americans, no matter what your domestic differences might have been. That attitude has gone by the wayside of late, but I'd like to promote a renewed vision of such a thing, tweaked for the modern era: "Politics ends at the President's buttocks". If the President is so bad that you think you need to kiss his ass to make the country work, it's time to ditch that President, no matter which party they are from. |
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24th May 2020, 01:18 PM | #179 |
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Perhaps the man who has emerged as trump's most crucial ally, Kentucky senator Mitch McConnell, needs to stay on good terms with trump. One thing I have discovered from reading local news stories about McConnell is, he's very unpopular in his home state. He usually has the lowest approval rating -- and highest disapproval rating -- of any U.S. senator. Right now he's at 41% approve and 48% disapprove his performance. Even among Kentuckians who identify as Republicans, he only gets a 69% approval rating. McConnell is up for reelection this Fall and without trump's help Mitch might find himself out of office. Public Policy Polling Kentucky
Below is a billboard put up by a local pro-Democratic PAC along I-75 in Berea Kentucky. The McConnells estimate their net worth as "ranging from $13.42 million to $54.56 million. The couple has a variety of assets, including bank accounts, trusts, mutual funds, retirement accounts and stocks." gobankingrates.com Most of it actually comes from his wife's side of the family. McConnell makes it easy not to like him. |
24th May 2020, 01:30 PM | #180 |
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Of course there is footage of Trump going to church. He stood at the front pew pretending to conduct the choir, and when the priest tried to give a sermon Trump walked up to him and pushed him aside with a smirk on his face and proceeded to give a glowering speech on how much God loved him and how the fake news media was tanking, and how the invisible Democrat hoax was driven back to China, and how lovable and huggable the choir girls all were, if only he had been their age.
Naturally, evil fake news MSM did not cover any of this, but his ratings were yuge, and priests from most of the country, all of the country, all of the world, are calling him saying, sir, what a lovely performance at the sermon, you really should be a priest if you weren't President. |
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24th May 2020, 01:44 PM | #181 |
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Kevin Sorbo @ksorbs This should be on a giant billboard in every city in the US. "America does not need to see the tax return of a billionaire who became a public servant. America needs to see the tax returns of public servants who became millionaires while being public servants.” |
24th May 2020, 01:45 PM | #182 |
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The Hill @thehill Trump considers forming panel to investigate anti-conservative bias on social media: report http://hill.cm/s1TaR43 |
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24th May 2020, 02:05 PM | #185 |
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Nevermind that the reality seems to be pretty much the opposite. Facebook and social media in general have largely shown significant bias in FAVOR of Republicans and so called conservatives. That massive numbers of hostile and divisive bots are literally indistiguishable from self-proclaimed "conservatives" does, however, mean that in culls of hostile bots, said real people will sometimes get caught too. And howl bloody murder frequently enough like the snowflakes working to build a wildly unearned victim narrative that they are.
Going beyond that for Facebook specifically, there are multiple Republicans in power there who have been pointedly making decisions that are brazenly biased towards Trump and the Republicans. |
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24th May 2020, 02:25 PM | #186 |
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Unless someone hacked her account, Ann Coulter has gone Full Mental Jacket on Trump!
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24th May 2020, 02:28 PM | #187 |
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What I meant was that Trump lives by Twitter. It is his megaphone. He loves it. So if they try to tell him to shut it down, then the committee must have obviously gotten it wrong.
Also, forcing selective removal of content is pretty blatant censorship. I would hope the First Amendment screamers would be up in arms about that. Finally, Twitter is global, not limited by any borders. The anti-Trump stuff would continue unabated no matter what efforts he would want in place. Unless Twitter was totally shut down (see point 1). |
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24th May 2020, 02:35 PM | #188 |
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I don't know that I disagree with the second part; but I don't know why Hercules acts as if there's some definition of a billionaire that one (Trump, of course) could only ever decide to become a public servant out of motives of perfect altruism. After all, if a person becomes a public servant with the aim of using that position in order to make a fortune, surely a billionaire has at least a thousand times more motive to become a public servant in order to protect one?
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Like most of the Trumpers, you don't understand the First Ammendment. You get a pass for being Australian, they don't.
The First Ammendment applies only to GOVERNMENT censorship. Private companies like Twitter, Google, Facebook, and yes, Breitbart are free to choose what content they allow. Trump tweeting that MSDNC is being unfair to him and tagging the FCC, on the other hand, is a blatant violation. |
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I got what you going for, I just wanted to highlight the absurdity involved a bit more.
Selective removal of accounts that aren't people and were created to cause harm isn't even remotely censorship, as far as I'm concerned. That a small number of accounts of real people that are indistinguishable from them get caught up is unfortunate in a couple ways, but isn't even remotely close to violating the First Amendment in pretty much any way. To be clear, of course, the US has a long and storied history of perfectly legal censorship. "Banned in Boston" comes to mind, for an easy example. |
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Be sure to watch, “Witch Hunt, the Flynn Vindication” hosted by the very knowledgeable @GreggJarrett on @FoxNews tonight at 8:00 P.M. This is yet another part of the greatest Criminal Hoax in American History! |
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump May 23 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump May 23 TRANSITION TO GREATNESS! |
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