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Biden has to pick a Veep with strong national presence, a lack of major issues in their political past, a commitment to the black agenda (as Al Sharpton pointed out) and the kind of charisma he lacks.
He almost has to pick a woman with African-American heritage, I think. Of the top candidates, I think Kamala Harris is the only one who has the national presence, a great record, charisma and a commitment to not only the "black agenda" but LGBTQ issues as well. She also has a record of working towards more bi-partisanship. She'd also be a great 2024/28 candidate in her own right. So what's wrong with her? I haven't seen her mentioned in the more recent convos about VP picks. |
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God damn Joe, this ain't it.
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Most the chatter is still treating Biden/Harris as the most likely ticket.
And if I'm being a purely cynical "Moneyball, run the numbers, show me the graphs" guy about it young, female, black but not too black, Californian Kamala Harris is the perfect counter to Uncle Joe. But Trump has broken the system so much making any prediction scares me. |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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We should never forget that numerous Trumpers were quoted as saying things like "He talks like a regular guy," and they didn't think much beyond that. A lot of Americans don't value smarts, and they vote. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...democracy.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-precautions/ I think Biden is smarter than he has appeared in some public utterances, but he's not so smugly academic that the working class will feel intimidated. |
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Assuming this is serious, three things:
One, the voters in question can't be that smart, if they can't tell the difference between looking smart and being smart. Two, smart people can still disagree on the best solution. Being smart alone does not guarantee appeal. Three, there are ideological factors to consider. For a conservative voter, a dumb conservative or even a dumb RINO is might be better than a smart progressive. |
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I don't think that's accurate.
No, that's not what happened. Or is it as I expect: You only care about (alleged) prosecutor malfeasance when a Trumpling is on the other end? A sampling
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The question is whether she prosecuted the right people in the right ways for the right reasons. She appears to have a mixed record.
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Yes, I did say that, but not in the context you are claiming. You never asked what made Abrams notable/unusual.
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Sounds like the system working as it is designed. Hate the game, not the player. Besides, that might actually appeal to some voters. I mean if that’s the worst there is about her, it isn’t horrible, relatively speaking. Abrams’ tax issues OTOH, might be an issue for some people, along with her relative lack of experience. Although, for the record, I’d love to see someone like her in the VP spot -I just don’t think she would attract many voters from the “I’m a conservative and I’m just looking for a reason to dump Trump,” side of the spectrum. Klobuchar is pretty much out with her history with Chauvin (real or fabricated because it can be spun; her nomination could alienate black voters in any case). Demings has even worse issues with her LE background. Nobody else that meets the criteria I came up with really has the national clout to help the ticket much. I can see a lot of support for a Biden/Warren ticket but I’m not sure how that would play with the black vote, which is important -I think- this election cycle. I really wish Biden hadn’t said so early that he would nominate a woman. There are plenty of male candidates that might fit the bill. Kinda painted himself in a corner there and I think Harris is the one who can lift him out of that corner. |
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It's designed to incriminate people on flimsy evidence???? OK, admittedly, you may be right, that does not imply we should condone anyone playing the game with that intention.
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Yesterday, Joe Biden visited the site of the protests in Wilmington, DE.
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My statement had nothing to do with what I care about. It was purely observational, and there was nothing in it about malfeasance either. If you think JoeMorgue is wrong, it's strange that you don't take it up directly with him.
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If it was purely observational, then you are a piss poor observer, because what you observed is not at all accurate. And I did take it up with JoeMorgue--You may have noticed that I was responding to both of you...Then again, maybe you didn't actually notice this (considering the previously referenced piss poor observational skills, after all).
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I also forgot to mention: Your previous statement concerning Harris is also inconsistent with what you (pretend?) to care about in the Flynn thread: Prosecutorial malfeasance. In that thread you're all uptight about (alleged) malfeasance, yet you claim that progressives holding malfeasance against Harris is (and I am quoting here): "Crazy". Can you explain your inconsistency? Is it merely attributed to poor observational skills/ignorance of Harris' history as a prosecutor? |
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Given his age, Biden needs someone who could plausibly replace him. I don't see Abrams as that person.
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I didn't ask what made her usual. I asked what made her unusual. Specifically:
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Ahem: In responding to JoeMorgue's post: xjx responded: and you concurred: QED Perhaps what you really should be doing is retracting this part of your response: (referring to JoeMorgue's original mischaracterization). Yes, I agree that, were JoeMorgue's characterization accurate, the progressive response would indeed be crazy. I'll try and be fair here: If you were honestly ignorant of Harris's history as a prosecutor, I'll give you a pass on calling Joe's characterization "Crazy". Now that you are aware of the mischaracterization, do you retract your claim of "Crazy"? |
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Oh, for God's sake. I forgot the "UN" in front of usual at the bottom. Even you could figure out that was a typo from the rest of my post.
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The events of the past week show that the Bernie Bros who still think Biden is no better then Trump are morons.
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