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11th July 2020, 07:01 AM | #3321 |
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That's hilarious.
She writes: But the[y] can't even prove it [the SBT] hypothetically because the sniper's nest and the various wounds of Kennedy and Connally do not line up.Please cite for where her claim is established. Thanks very much. Regarding the bullet tumbling, SHE quotes Doctor Shaw as saying: Dr. Shaw. I would only have to say that I'm not a ballistics expert, but the wound on his chest was not a single puncture wound, it was long enough so that there might have been some tumbling.Hank |
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I have never ”refused” to provide evidence. I provide evidence if requested to do so in a specific and relevant manner. Hanks ”method” [of requesting evidence] is not going to [get me to] provide any evidence since it has a completely different purpose. To create the the illusion of me not providing evidence when requested to do so. - Manifesto |
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11th July 2020, 08:18 AM | #3323 |
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"Shaw felt that the shape of the bullet was explained either by a “slight tumbling,” or by it striking at a tangent."
This article does nothing to address the tumbling bullet. It tries to convince you the bullet was peachy keen normal when it hit John Connally, using testimony from a guy who said "Shaw felt that the shape of the bullet was explained either by a “slight tumbling" and also said, "I would only have to say that I'm not a ballistics expert." |
11th July 2020, 09:08 AM | #3324 |
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They all had a hand in it. There were four neighborhood women who had gotten together and were shooting the breeze when the conversation turned to Lee still looking for a job. One was a neighbor named Dorothy Roberts. The other three were Marina Oswald, Linnie Mae Randle, and Ruth Paine.
Here's what Linnie Mae Randle recalled: Mr. BALL. But on this one occasion she was in the house, Mrs. Roberts' house?Marina Oswald testified to this: Mr. RANKIN. You said before that you learned about the depository job at some neighbor's home, it that right?And Ruth Paine said: Mr. JENNER - You reached home and Marina suggested that "Would you please call the Texas School Depository?"There are minor discrepancies throughout the accounts. For example, Mrs. Randle spoke of multiple jobs being mentioned, and Ruth Paine cautioning that jobs that required a car to get to or as part of the job would be out, as Lee didn't drive and didn't have a license. Ruth didn't recall that part of the conversation at all. Another is that Marina spoke of Mrs. Randle saying there was a vacancy at the Depository, but Randle said she didn't know of one for certain, just that her brother had been recently hired there. It's these minor contradictions that are the lifeblood of any conspiracy theory. From this they ratchet up to suggesting that the witness flubbed their lines, and forgot what they were supposed to say. And from that, of course, they then suggest a conspiracy to kill Kennedy and frame Oswald. MicahJava does this all the time with the medical testimony, quoting some recollection given to the ARRB (about a third of a century after the assassination) with something a doctor at Parkland recalled in testimony to the Warren Commission (months after the assassination), then cites something to the HSCA fifteen years after the assassination. When he's done, he's got a jumbled mess that he convinces himself somehow makes sense. Anyone with half a brain understands that contradictions between witnesses, especially in testimony given months or years later, is a normal occurance and more than likely indicates the witnesses are giving their honest recollections. But CTs cannot abide that argument, so they ignore it. Hank |
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11th July 2020, 11:55 AM | #3325 |
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It should not be so difficult for anyone, including CTs, that bullets once they encounter any mass loose a bit of momentums, rifling and directionality. So there should not be any questions that the bullet could have been slightly tumbling such that the entrance wound not be identical to the exit wound.
MJ has made many attempts to cite various CT authors that put into question many aspects of the assassination by pointing out what they(CTs) minor discrepancies in the body if all the investigations. While minor discrepancies "seem" to exist, further research dispels them, but the CTs ignore that and instead continue to cite them as if they are the Holy Grail of the assassination. |
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Additionally, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juyYn9eDSHg at the 54 minute mark, Blakey talks about the HSCA hiring someone from NASA who did a study which produced the attached picture of where the shot came from based on the wounds involved, position of the victims, and trajectory.
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That 'someone' was Thomas Canning, a "Staff Engineer for the Space Projects Division of NASA Ames Research Center".
https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/canning.htm A reasonable person would look at the photographic image you provide and conclude that it is strong evidence that the shots that struck the victims came from the sniper's nest location. But of course, since the margin of error is greater than just the sniper's nest window, there are CTs who contend that some or all of the shots could have come from elsewhere, like the Dal-Tex Building across the street and to the right of the Depository in the photo cited. Of course, that CT argument ignores the consilience of evidence recovered. Like the only bullets or bullet fragments recovered that were large enough and had sufficient lands and grooves to match ballistically, were determined to have been fired from Oswald's weapon, to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world.None of the above matters to conspiracy theorists with an abiding faith in a conspiracy, of course, because all three of the circles extend beyond the Depository. Hank |
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Heh...Oliver Stone is returning to this subject:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter Here's the relevant quote to save clicking the link:
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I think Phase 255 of the JFK Assassination will focus on the documents where someone called the US Embassy in England to warn something might happen in Texas (but with no specifics). And the CIA Mexico City Station memo to Langley suggesting that the CIA tell the FBI about Oswald's visits to the Cuban and Soviet Embassy, but the intel was never passed along. Not that it mattered, the Dallas FBI office was notified - by accident - by Customs agents in New Orleans about Oswald's Mexico City adventures...and then the FBI failed to mention this to the Secret Service, who would have sat on Oswald while the President was in Texas.
Out of all of the documents I read, this is full back story on how Oswald was allowed to be at the TSBD on November 22, 1963. It's also how 19 Al Qaeda operatives lived in the US before hijacking four commercial jets and flew them into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and Shanksville. Almost as if there is a systemic communication problem between the FBI and CIA. Weird, right? |
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Gentlemen, long time reader if this thread(s) I wonder if I might call upon the experts here to aid me in something related to the JFK assassination?
I decided that I would put into a book about a British Resident (Political agent) to the Maharajah of Samaraphore in 1839 a part about the history of the place to include his grandfather being assassinated - using the basis of Dealey plaza and the Kennedy assassination cleverly disguised in Indian terms. I want to cram as many references to the assassination as I can into around three paragraphs. You fine fellows are the experts so you are obvious the people to ask! So, if you agree I will post three paragraphs and see if you have any suggestions? Or if anyone would like to volunteer, we can do it by PM. Thanks |
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More crackerjack research I see.
It's Newman, not "Neuman".
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He's not wrong. The TSBD was behind him over his left shoulder. The other two shots came before the car passed him. The third one right past him, and what heard was the sonic boom reflecting off the wall behind him. Plus, he only heard two shots. Acoustics is fun. |
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What’s the status of the “LBJ and George HW Bush were involved in the JFK assassination” conspiracy theories? Or Ted Cruz’s father?
When will Very Stable Genius Donald Trump reveal the super-secret CIA/Deep State files? I’m waiting. |
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Spekaing of JFK conspiracy theorists, let's see what Oliver Stone is up to these days:
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I have never ”refused” to provide evidence. I provide evidence if requested to do so in a specific and relevant manner. Hanks ”method” [of requesting evidence] is not going to [get me to] provide any evidence since it has a completely different purpose. To create the the illusion of me not providing evidence when requested to do so. - Manifesto |
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In a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter's 'Awards Chatter' podcast tied to the publication of his acclaimed new memoir Gassing the Light: ...
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So when will JFK, Jr. show up to avenge his father (and help Trump, per QAnon)?
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Better Without The Bitter
The two best films about high profile murder cases (e.g., JFK and Zodiac) were directed by two individuals (e.g., Oliver Stone and David Fincher) who bragged about how each film's screenplay was based on documented (e.g., CIA, FBI, Police Files) fact. Unfortunately, it only takes about 45 minutes of research/fact-checking to realize that both directors appear to have used the case files as expensive toilet paper. In essence, both directors flaunted the better, but ignored the bitter.
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Oliver, Oliver, Oliver
Speaking of Oliver Stone, he appears to have gotten a second wind in regards to the JFK Case. In the past 10 months, he has given several interviews where he regurgitates the same debunked nonsense he put forth in both his 1991 film and his subsequent speaking tour. Stone also remains hypersensitive to any critiques of his flawed research and/or conclusions.
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It's not about ignoring opposing viewpoints, it's about separating the facts from speculation and lies. The problem with the world of JFK-CTs is that they've become dogmatic fantasies that serve as a foundation for a world view that believes there is a conspiracy behind everything.
In this fantasy world the facts are irrelevant due to the thesis that says, "If the government lied about X,Y.& Z then it must also have lied about A,B, & C". This thinking handicaps the believers in CT from the beginning sending them down multiple rabbit holes at once searching for a more acceptable version of the truth that is in alignment with their own. |
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I'd love if you could debate without ignoring opposing viewpoints.
When do you intend to start? Here's just five examples over a period of a few days when you were a more active poster here of you raising an issue just to drop it after the actual facts of the case were posted (I could cite several dozen more) : http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=733 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=734 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=741 http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=742 And of course, there's this memorable one where you tried to lecture me on the different between a magazine housing and a trigger guard, not understanding what Oswald's Mannlicher Carcano even looked like, apparently: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=747 Do you think we forgot about your prior arguments that you never supported with evidence and went nowhere? And ignored the opposing viewpoints? I summarized where we ended up here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=768
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