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6th July 2018, 09:11 AM | #841 |
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6th July 2018, 09:14 AM | #845 |
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6th July 2018, 09:17 AM | #847 |
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Probably he got it from you suggesting that anger helped you in such encounters.
Can you tell us more about this? Have you ever encountered an "angry celibate young man", outside of the Internet? Have you responded in anger to him? What form did your response take? How did it go? |
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6th July 2018, 09:23 AM | #849 |
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I've heard people called sluts but in my experience this fits almost entirely into two categories:
1) women insulting/gossiping each other (or friendly banter like in my anecdote below) 2) men saying someone is a slut (but not in a necessarily negative tone) I wouldn't categorize either as "shaming" In my research group (when I was in grad school) the girls(3-4 of them) would all affectionately call each other sluts. In front of our supervisor, even (who was female). They might have even called her a slut but I can't remember because it seemed so normal and acceptable for them behave like that. The other places I've seen it has been MGTOW-types in in some unmoderated comment sections (you can tell from their avatar) or in satire via Dick Masterson at http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/ edit: link probably NSFW |
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6th July 2018, 09:25 AM | #851 |
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8th July 2018, 05:51 PM | #852 |
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It's obviously nowhere near "disdain", but even if it were, it would be a type of disdain that men are far more "subjected to" than women. Only once a year would be such a massive reduction that it's actually funny that anyone would have ever thought it sounded like a lot.
With the word "all" in there twice, yes, but it does lean disproportionately in that general direction. It's practically inevitable in an environment where the predominant message for men is not to even try because that's such a horrible thing to do to someone. The only ones who would be held back by that message are the ones who listen and respect, while the ones who don't listen or respect are bound to be the ones who just charge right ahead anyway. It's exactly the cultural theme you'd set up if your goal were to deliberately filter out men with a sense of decency and maximize women's interactions with men who ignore such standards. |
8th July 2018, 06:04 PM | #853 |
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This looks relevant, from BBC
A Get The L Out spokeswoman said: "We protested to protect our rights and on behalf of all the lesbians intimidated, threatened and silenced by the GBT community everywhere. |
8th July 2018, 07:46 PM | #854 |
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Sexual Harassment And You: A Handy Guide to Workplace Etiquette
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9th July 2018, 01:46 PM | #856 |
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It may come as a surprise to you that it is possible to interact with people who aren't actually your friends on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/help/1210322209008185/ ETA: By way of analogy, it is quite possible to interact with "gender critical" radical feminists on an internet message board even if you don't happen to know any IRL. |
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9th July 2018, 01:53 PM | #857 |
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So join better groups then. I don't actually care, makes no difference to me, but you're still choosing to encounter this sort of toxicity when you don't have to.
And I'm still not sure why you think your experiences provide any rational expectation for what my experiences should be like. |
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9th July 2018, 02:47 PM | #858 |
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All of the women I personally know who had sweet guys after them, and also had the type of dateless guys after them who didn't know how to read 'quit it,' are still single twenty years later. You could say those sweet guys weren't good enough for them, but neither was anyone else. They were just never interested. And every time I've had a pushy or disrespectful guy after me it was similarly not just a turn-off but a red flag. So part of the problem for me is a complete lack of experience of/with women who fall for guys who 'ignore such standards'. I know they're out there but don't know anything about them.
My circles are generally women who aren't very pretty who get: a) no attention at all, b) attention from guys who act like they ought to be grateful for any attention, c) attention from guys who are in really unfortunate situations and need a lot of support. They have a lot of sympathy for category c and occasionally will try to date them but usually those relationships end when the two of them don't have enough supporting energy to go around. My friends who are couples are all just both moderately frumpy and both nice. Oh wait, I do know one hot guy, he is nice and has a moderately cute girlfriend. I also know one aggressive guy with money who wants to settle down but says he can't yet cause he only meets/attracts women who just want a little fun. I'm gonna guess that's cause he's aggressive. |
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