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2nd February 2017, 10:37 AM | #161 |
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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I'm all broken up about that man's rights
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2nd February 2017, 10:57 AM | #177 |
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I'll explain that.
Add someone who does not support these types of actions in any form I know those that do tend to not care about beginning fair to the other side (no worse than right wing extremists in my opinion) ,so we are trying to show them that they are not kicking the other side in the nuts but shooting our side in the foot. |
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I'm all in favor of freedom of speech but there is something wrong when money and power overwhelms minority opinions. Trump's brownshirts are trying to limit opposition of their racist ideology and are upset that groups without power are doing everything they can not to be destroyed. Many of these people are fighting because their very survival is at stake.
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2nd February 2017, 11:00 AM | #181 |
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Remember when the Right said that Obama was dividing the nation....?
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1. He'd never do that. 2. Okay but he's not currently doing it. 3. Okay but he's not currently technically doing it. 4. Okay but everyone does it. 5. He's doing it, we can't stop him, no point in complaining about it. 6. We all knew he was going to do it which... makes it okay somehow. 7. It's perfectly fine that's he's doing it. |
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Yet more indication that his worldview basically boils down to 'might makes right.' Although on the other hand, if him or one of his buddies tries to 'might makes right' someone and finds out they are dangerously outmatched and get beat down or shot, it's totally unfair.
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2nd February 2017, 11:05 AM | #185 |
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Oh, now you are worried about going out of your comfort zone? Pretty sure you said this a few posts back:
So, your comfort zone is riots and arson but not shooting? What if someone takes it to that next level and then in answer to your complaints (or those of your next of kin) says "too bad". Ditch the violence and the justifications for violence. |
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I didn't say I was opposed to violence. I was merely pointing out that what occurred at Berkeley wasn't a 'shooting' civil war. You seem to be unable to distinguish between levels of action, equating a broken window with full-scale war. There are many levels between those two things, and they are each appropriate in different circumstances.
And I will certainly not 'ditch' violence just because you order me to. If I'm attacked I will defend myself. If someone invades I will fight back. Some wars are justified. Nonviolence is not the correct response in every circumstance. |
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Besides, it's The People's Republic of Berkeley, for Heaven's Sake. Over the top protests are a popular sport there...second only to UCB football.
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I said it leads to it. If you are intolerant towards, say, blacks, you're not going to allow them to rent an appartment in your building, for instance. Where do they go then, if few people will let them rent? Does that not harm them?
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So, if he's doing it by divine means, I can only tell him this: 'Mr. Geller, you're doing it the hard way.' --James Randi |
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Here, in Northern California, it's a case of "Hey, it's Berkley.What Can You Expect?".
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