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2nd February 2017, 12:49 PM | #241 |
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Well, where we disagree is that you want to be intolerant of people, whereas I only think being intolerant of behavior is ok. Also, there are different degrees of intolerance. If somebody gives an offensive speech (bad behavior, from my point of view), then my intolerance will consist of either shunning that speech, peacefully protesting that speech, or, most likely, writing criticism about it on the internet. It won't consist of shouting at people going to listen to that speech, let alone doing the things that leftists do routinely to conservatives on college campuses.
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2nd February 2017, 12:58 PM | #246 |
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Whilst I don't think it is homophobic to disagree with Milo, he is allowed to have these opinions and talk about them in the public square.
I used to know a guy who said he'd preferred to have been born straight. I'd prefer people would feel at ease with who they are, but some people think this way. Milo also has an open mic and takes questions at his talks. Offering a non violent way to engage his arguments. |
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It's linked right in the OP.
As I said in the OP, there was a small sample size, I didn't want to misrepresent the statistics, or be unfair about it. To answer abc - no I did not guess the statistics, they were provided by Berkeley in their own newspaper. It's clearly stated in the OP and the article. Is it hard to believe that people would be against sanctuary cities? If laws need to be changed to allow ICE and the cities to do this easier than fine, but how could this possibly be a good idea? We have homeless and tent cities all over San Jose, never mind SF - that's just a dump. It's simple math, we simply cannot afford it. And we're supposed to bring in millions more? If you want to intentionally ruin an economy just follow Cali's lead. We got this! |
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Well, the liberal definition of intolerance is apparently proposing policies that they disagree with. Or saying offensive things, even by accident. So I disagree that being intolerant towards blacks means you won't rent them an apartment. Even then, there are legal remedies to discrimination based on race in renting apartments. It is completely unnecessary to go all vigilante on somebody you think is doing that (key word there is "think" since you probably do not "know").
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Ironically, I think most white liberals are racist in that they think certain minorities are incapable of succeeding without radical help from the government. And they engage in racist behavior by trying to design government policies which discriminate based on race.
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Not sure how you miss that:
Why is it that those people, the clear minority of anti-trump people represent all of us who didn't vote for trump, but the millions of people who turned up at the March for Women, with little if any police action don't? I am saying the pink hat ladies who got totally owned by one lollipop sucking "badass" DO represent you too! |
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Anarchists done for us?
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There isn't? I was unaware that you were chosen the spokesperson for anarchists.
How did you get that position? i din't vote for 'im. Did the Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that You, caveman, was to carry Excalibur. And that is why you are their spokesman!! Now in all seriousness, did you think that we forgot that just yesterday you were linking to articles singing the virtues of the Black Bloc? |
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Can you find a post by me saying Milo was not entitled to his opinions?
The poster I was responding to called people criticizing Milo's beliefs (which we are also entitled to do) hypocritical because Milo identifies himself as gay. I posted what is easily found information about Milo that he himself expresses homophobic beliefs. There is no hypocrisy criticizing a homophobic gay man for his homophobia. I've done it many times, as there are more than a few very prominent anti-gay gay guys. |
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Not how it works, but nice try.
Frankly, as much as I see Ben Shapiro and the like as clowns, even that guy hasn't, say, outed a transgender student who attends the university he was speaking at, to note one thing this Milo guy has done. Again, everyone knows the Black Bloc are a pack of violent idiots. But the only reason to invite this guy onto campus is to cause as much controversy as possible. |
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Conspicuous by its absence from any reply from Sunmaster, theprestige, TBD or the user who made the observation initially, mgidm86 - is an answer to the question. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Why is that? So I ask. Again. Why do the infinitesimally small number of nitwits who choose violence represent the whole of liberals in your mind, but the massive number of peaceful protesters that we saw at the Women's march don't? |
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Again: I'm seeing a concerning lack of imagination on the ISF...
Democratic voters can want to turn out in greater numbers, but if they've been denied voter registration ("New law! No Ex-felons voting. New law! Drug testing for voters in Inner Cities!"), have 20 hour lineups that extend beyond a "state of emergency" curfew... And that's if they're in the eligible demographic... I would not be surprised by deportations or blanket citizenship revocations. DREAMers and recent immigrants look like a logical target for deportation, much less disenfranchisement. Enthusiasm and popular support may not translate into sufficient votes to ensure a Republican defeat. |
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I don't think turning America into a Banana Republic is going to be as easy as you think.
Or if you really think that, then go out and get a rifle and ammunition, because armed resistence will be the only way to restore democracy. Or maybe you just indulging in "Despair Porn",which I have seen quite a bit off here lately. |
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