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Old 15th June 2022, 08:38 PM   #281
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I quite believed in Erich von Däniken's "theories" when I was around 11-13 years old.
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Old 16th June 2022, 12:32 AM   #282
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Sounds like Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series.
Though with the alliances reversed.
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Old 20th June 2022, 06:12 AM   #283
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I believed the Doolittle raid on Tokyo was a huge success. Since then I have learned that most of the bombs fell off-target, they hit a school thinking it was a factory, and 14 of the 16 B-25 bombers ditched or crashed. The bits that worked: A blow to Japanese morale, A propaganda boost for the USA, and expertise in carrier-based bombers gained.
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Old 20th June 2022, 06:44 AM   #284
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That sounds like a huge success to me.
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Old 20th June 2022, 07:07 AM   #285
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
That sounds like a huge success to me.
It's the huge number of Chinese people killed in the resulting operations to try to capture the air crews that takes the shine off it for me.
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Old 20th June 2022, 07:51 AM   #286
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Originally Posted by llwyd View Post
I quite believed in Erich von Däniken's "theories" when I was around 11-13 years old.
So did I. I then learned some basic Archaeology and realized I had been duped.
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Old 20th June 2022, 08:53 AM   #287
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Old 20th June 2022, 12:56 PM   #288
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Originally Posted by Spektator View Post
I believed the Doolittle raid on Tokyo was a huge success. Since then I have learned that most of the bombs fell off-target, they hit a school thinking it was a factory, and 14 of the 16 B-25 bombers ditched or crashed. The bits that worked: A blow to Japanese morale, A propaganda boost for the USA, and expertise in carrier-based bombers gained.
That was it's entire purpose, in that respect it was a complete success.
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Old 21st June 2022, 01:14 AM   #289
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
That was it's entire purpose, in that respect it was a complete success.
I'm not sure that's true. I believe part of the plan was for the aircraft involved to land in China to form the nucleus of a US bomber group based there, but because of the, sighting of the task force they launched out of range of the destination and were mostly forced to crash-land or ditch.

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Originally Posted by Spektator View Post
I believed the Doolittle raid on Tokyo was a huge success. Since then I have learned that most of the bombs fell off-target, they hit a school thinking it was a factory, and 14 of the 16 B-25 bombers ditched or crashed. The bits that worked: A blow to Japanese morale, A propaganda boost for the USA, and expertise in carrier-based bombers gained.
Actually, the US Military knew well that they would do little or no damage to Japanese facilities even if the bombs were on target.
But giving a boost to Public Morale, which was very low in April of 1942, was the main reason behind the raid. In that regard i was a big sucess.
It also caused Japan to recall some units from their island bases to protect the Homeland, and swung opinion around to approve Yamamoto's Midway operation as necessary to protect the Japanese mainland.
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