Weiner's Back

Brainster · 11th April 2013, 12:18 AM

In a NY Times Magazine article that tries to focus on his post-scandal life:

Quote:

One day in early February, I met Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin for breakfast at the Gramercy Park Hotel, one of their regular joints, just a few blocks from their apartment on Park Avenue South. The first thing Weiner said when I sat down was that their 13-month-old son, Jordan, had just moments ago taken his first step. They were both giddy, kvelling with baby-pride, especially Weiner, who, with all his free time, has become his son’s primary caretaker.

No particular surprise, he's sticking with the limited hangout, much like the original twitter photo that got him in trouble:

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At a hastily arranged news conference in New York on Monday, Weiner tearfully admitted that he “engaged in several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, e-mail and occasionally on the phone” and exchanged “messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over the last three years,” essentially the entire length of his relationship with Abedin, but that he had never met any of the women in person.

Another "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," bit of BS? C'mon, he wasn't sharing pictures of the little wiener without some hope that it would be getting inside some of the gals he showed it to. And his tortured explanation?

Quote:

By definition, when you are a politician, you want people to like you, you want people to respond to what you’re doing, you want to learn what they want to hear so you can say it to them. Twitter and Facebook allowed for me — not only could I go to a town-hall meeting or a senior center or in front of the TV camera, but now I could sit and hear what people were saying all around. Search your name on Google, begat read comments on your Facebook page, begat looking at what people are saying about you on Twitter, to then trying to engage them. ‘Oh, you should like me!’ ‘No, that’s wrong!’ or ‘Thank you very much!’ And it just started to blur into this desire to engage in it all the time.

I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly.

mikedenk · 11th April 2013, 01:03 AM

From the long list of storied Breitbart moments, the Weiner takedown is my favorite. The liberal rag NYT whitewashes this of course, making it seem like finally admitting the truth was a result of Weiner feeling guilty, rather than being nailed to the floor by Breitbart.

ponderingturtle · 11th April 2013, 03:21 AM

Still confused what the big deal was. Clearly 90+% of politicians should be fired for similar or more likely worse infidelity I guess.

mikedenk · 11th April 2013, 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Still confused what the big deal was. Clearly 90+% of politicians should be fired for similar or more likely worse infidelity I guess.

Worse has been done for sure, see Brainster's reference to Sanford above.

The saying about the cover-up being worse than the crime comes to mind.

A'isha · 11th April 2013, 04:38 AM

I think the Democrats should treat him the same way that Republicans are treating Mark Sanford and David Vitter.

daredelvis · 11th April 2013, 11:09 AM

If they get Vitter back, we should get Weiner AND Spitzer! As far as I know, neither one of them wore a diaper for sexual gratification (or was a full-on blowhard about family values).

Daredelvis

TragicMonkey · 11th April 2013, 11:14 AM

I love this country. You can lie, cheat, steal, embezzle, and murder and still get elected to the House or Senate, but if you have a sexy conversation there are grave doubts about your fitness.

Quinn · 11th April 2013, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly.

I suspect they're both basing their timing on their perception of the memory and attention span of the American public. And by those standards, I think they're both in the clear. After all, it's probably been months since anyone posted a single snarky tweet about either of them!

Brainster · 11th April 2013, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by daredelvis

If they get Vitter back, we should get Weiner AND Spitzer! As far as I know, neither one of them wore a diaper for sexual gratification (or was a full-on blowhard about family values).

Daredelvis

Perhaps you forgot that Spitzer prosecuted a couple of prostitution rings?

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Though his signature issue was pursuing Wall Street misdeeds, as attorney general Mr. Spitzer also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. “It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

As I said in the OP, I don't particularly care if these guys make a political comeback; if the people are stupid enough to vote for them, they deserve each other. Meanwhile, Weiner picks up a rather silly endorsement:

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“Anthony’s a good guy in my opinion. Now, he should’ve came clean once he got busted, you know, and I’m sorry he didn’t do that – but he’s sorry he didn’t do that and his [wife Huma Abedin’s] sorry he didn’t do that,” Ellison said on Current TV to host Bill Press.

“Look man, nobody here is perfect. Anthony was a great congressman in my opinion, and he’s dealt with his issues and everybody has issues. So I’d love to see Anthony Weiner be mayor of New York. I hereby endorse him.”

thaiboxerken · 11th April 2013, 12:13 PM

What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?

lobosrul · 11th April 2013, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?

Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner, unsolicited to at least one woman. Isn't that sexual harassment?

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html

thaiboxerken · 11th April 2013, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by lobosrul

Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner, unsolicited to at least one woman. Isn't that sexual harassment?

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html

So what did he do that was so deplorable, again?

Cleon · 11th April 2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

So what did he do that was so deplorable, again?

He allowed Breitbart to actually be right about something.

lobosrul · 11th April 2013, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

So what did he do that was so deplorable, again?

<shrug> Bad enough that I think he deserved to lose his job, yeah. Worse than the guy who lost his job for being overheard saying "big dongles huh huh" at Pycon, yeah. Bad enough to be ineligible to run for public office ever again, no. I for one don't think our elected officials should be sending pictures of their junk to random women on the internet. I wouldn't vote for him or Mark Sanford either for that matter, but if someone else does I guess that's their right.

ravdin · 11th April 2013, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?

He flirted on Twitter and lied about it to reporters. I'm with you on this one, his own party shouldn't have thrown him under the bus.

thaiboxerken · 11th April 2013, 12:56 PM

I wonder how extreme Fox News would get if Weiner got back into the political arena and received a standing ovation when walking in.

G6000 · 11th April 2013, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by ANTPogo

I think the Democrats should treat him the same way that Republicans are treating Mark Sanford and David Vitter.

Precisely what I was thinking.

I am sure Weiner has been inspired by Mark Sanford's comeback. If that unbelievable jackass can make a comeback, anyone can.

G6000 · 11th April 2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?

When people ask this question, I ask, "Is this the best guy you could find?" This is the kind of juvenile fool who typically never rises above dairy aisle manager at the Piggle Wiggly.

A guy who has poor impulse control making decisions which affect every American. That's the best guy you could find in your whole district? What does that say about your district?

"Yeah, we have this ass clown who can't behave like a grownup. We couldn't find anyone else."

Yeahhhh...

The Fallen Serpent · 11th April 2013, 01:43 PM

It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face.

TragicMonkey · 11th April 2013, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Fallen Serpent

It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face.

Or drove her off a bridge.

ravdin · 11th April 2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Fallen Serpent

It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face.

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Or drove her off a bridge.

Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress.

stevea · 11th April 2013, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by ravdin

Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to ~~Congress~~ a Federal court while under oath.

FTFY.

I don't care a bit it this guy wants to run for office again.

Weiner's actions demonstrated that he has no problem violating his wife's trust. What sort of moron would think that he wouldn't violate his constituents trust too ?

Amazing that some of the critical thinkers here still rely on the Breitbart ad hom fallacy. Why should it matter if Adolph Hitler broke the story ? Has no impact on Weiner's qualification.

The Fallen Serpent · 11th April 2013, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by ravdin

Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress.

Well, I was more specific than that I suppose.

G6000 · 11th April 2013, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly.

One of the many discouraging things I have come to realize in the post 9/11 era is that a large number of each party's demographics have memories like that of a goldfish.

thaiboxerken · 11th April 2013, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by stevea

FTFY.
Weiner's actions demonstrated that he has no problem violating his wife's trust. What sort of moron would think that he wouldn't violate his constituents trust too ?

What does one have to do with the other? I'm sure many, if not most, of the people elected drive over the speed limit. What makes you think those same people won't violate the law in other aspects?

Aoidoi · 11th April 2013, 04:04 PM

He gets knocked down, he gets up again. You ain't ever gonna keep him down.

Puppycow · 11th April 2013, 08:27 PM

He may be roasted by the media again.

Puppycow · 11th April 2013, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?

He got caught with his pants down and he tried to lie about what happened.

It's more pathetic and embarrassing than deplorable.

TragicMonkey · 12th April 2013, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by ravdin

Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress.

Oddly enough, I don't consider that to be as serious as murder, or even as serious as drunkenly shooting someone in the face.

Aoidoi · 12th April 2013, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Oddly enough, I don't consider that to be as serious as murder, or even as serious as drunkenly shooting someone in the face.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Cheney was sober when he shot that guy in the face.

I totally want Weiner back in politics. For too long the halls of power have been Weinerless. It's time for Weiner to stand up straight and say "I won't be beaten again!"

Ziggurat · 12th April 2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Aoidoi

It's time for Weiner to stand up straight and say "I won't be beaten again!"

I thought Weiner stood up straight because he was beaten.

Ziggurat · 12th April 2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by ravdin

He flirted on Twitter and lied about it to reporters. I'm with you on this one, his own party shouldn't have thrown him under the bus.

Don't forget that he also accused other people of committing crimes in order to cover up his own lies. Or that the lies were not merely to reporters, but to his own wife as well. As mentioned above, if a man will violate the trust his wife places in him like this, whose trust won't he violate?

As for the Democrats throwing him under the bus, he very much deserved that. He got them to go out on a limb for him, and then he cut that limb off. He betrayed them. That deserves to have consequences. If he had been honest from the start (or even if he merely refused to answer questions), then things might be different. But when you get people to back you up and then your lies are exposed, then those people are made to look like fools for lending support to that lie.

Spindrift · 12th April 2013, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

Don't forget that he also accused other people of committing crimes in order to cover up his own lies. Or that the lies were not merely to reporters, but to his own wife as well. As mentioned above, if a man will violate the trust his wife places in him like this, whose trust won't he violate?

Do you have any proof that cheating on your spouse is an indicator of how one acts in their professional career?

Originally Posted by Ziggurat

As for the Democrats throwing him under the bus, he very much deserved that. He got them to go out on a limb for him, and then he cut that limb off. He betrayed them. That deserves to have consequences. If he had been honest from the start (or even if he merely refused to answer questions), then things might be different. But when you get people to back you up and then your lies are exposed, then those people are made to look like fools for lending support to that lie.

The lesson few politicians learn the first time. Either fess up or shut up.

thaiboxerken · 12th April 2013, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

Do you have any proof that cheating on your spouse is an indicator of how one acts in their professional career?

It absolutely proves that the politician is unfit for office (unless he's a Republican, then it's ok.)

eeyore1954 · 12th April 2013, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobosrul
Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner,

Quote:

unsolicited to at least one woman

. Isn't that sexual harassment?

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

So what did he do that was so deplorable, again?

If that is what he really did you do not think it is deplorable?

Spindrift · 12th April 2013, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by eeyore1954

http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html

If that is what he really did you do not think it is deplorable?

Link does not work, so I have to go with not deplorable.

thaiboxerken · 12th April 2013, 11:55 AM

He sent an unsolicited penile profile to a constituent. Stupid, yes. The only things violated were his wife's and the constituent's trust. Compared to what Sanford and Vitter has done, it's not deplorable.

Arcade22 · 12th April 2013, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

I love this country. You can lie, cheat, steal, embezzle, and murder and still get elected to the House or Senate, but if you have a sexy conversation there are grave doubts about your fitness.

Don't forget that you get to commit warcrimes (such as slaughtering entire full villages of civilians in Vietnam) and get elected as Governor and Senator.

America really is the land of opportunities.

Spindrift · 12th April 2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Arcade22

Don't forget that you get to commit warcrimes (such as slaughtering entire full villages of civilians in Vietnam) and get elected as Governor and Senator.

America really is the land of opportunities.

And who did that?

TragicMonkey · 12th April 2013, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Spindrift

And who did that?

Ms Sally "Scourge of Indochina" Field. There's blood on your hands, Gidget!

11th April 2013, 12:18 AM	#1
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 14,051	Weiner's Back In a NY Times Magazine article that tries to focus on his post-scandal life: Quote: One day in early February, I met Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin for breakfast at the Gramercy Park Hotel, one of their regular joints, just a few blocks from their apartment on Park Avenue South. The first thing Weiner said when I sat down was that their 13-month-old son, Jordan, had just moments ago taken his first step. They were both giddy, kvelling with baby-pride, especially Weiner, who, with all his free time, has become his son’s primary caretaker. No particular surprise, he's sticking with the limited hangout, much like the original twitter photo that got him in trouble: Quote: At a hastily arranged news conference in New York on Monday, Weiner tearfully admitted that he “engaged in several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, e-mail and occasionally on the phone” and exchanged “messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over the last three years,” essentially the entire length of his relationship with Abedin, but that he had never met any of the women in person. Another "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," bit of BS? C'mon, he wasn't sharing pictures of the little wiener without some hope that it would be getting inside some of the gals he showed it to. And his tortured explanation? Quote: By definition, when you are a politician, you want people to like you, you want people to respond to what you’re doing, you want to learn what they want to hear so you can say it to them. Twitter and Facebook allowed for me — not only could I go to a town-hall meeting or a senior center or in front of the TV camera, but now I could sit and hear what people were saying all around. Search your name on Google, begat read comments on your Facebook page, begat looking at what people are saying about you on Twitter, to then trying to engage them. ‘Oh, you should like me!’ ‘No, that’s wrong!’ or ‘Thank you very much!’ And it just started to blur into this desire to engage in it all the time. I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly.
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11th April 2013, 03:21 AM	#3
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11th April 2013, 04:38 AM	#5
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11th April 2013, 11:09 AM	#6
daredelvis Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,217	If they get Vitter back, we should get Weiner AND Spitzer! As far as I know, neither one of them wore a diaper for sexual gratification (or was a full-on blowhard about family values). Daredelvis
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TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 43,196	I love this country. You can lie, cheat, steal, embezzle, and murder and still get elected to the House or Senate, but if you have a sexy conversation there are grave doubts about your fitness.
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11th April 2013, 01:03 AM	#2
mikedenk Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,029	From the long list of storied Breitbart moments, the Weiner takedown is my favorite. The liberal rag NYT whitewashes this of course, making it seem like finally admitting the truth was a result of Weiner feeling guilty, rather than being nailed to the floor by Breitbart.

11th April 2013, 04:35 AM	#4
mikedenk Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,029	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Still confused what the big deal was. Clearly 90+% of politicians should be fired for similar or more likely worse infidelity I guess. Worse has been done for sure, see Brainster's reference to Sanford above. The saying about the cover-up being worse than the crime comes to mind.

11th April 2013, 11:18 AM	#8
Quinn Breathtakingly blasphemous. Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,309	Originally Posted by Brainster I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly. I suspect they're both basing their timing on their perception of the memory and attention span of the American public. And by those standards, I think they're both in the clear. After all, it's probably been months since anyone posted a single snarky tweet about either of them!
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11th April 2013, 11:23 AM	#9
Brainster Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 14,051	Originally Posted by daredelvis If they get Vitter back, we should get Weiner AND Spitzer! As far as I know, neither one of them wore a diaper for sexual gratification (or was a full-on blowhard about family values). Daredelvis Perhaps you forgot that Spitzer prosecuted a couple of prostitution rings? Quote: Though his signature issue was pursuing Wall Street misdeeds, as attorney general Mr. Spitzer also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force. In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island. “This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. “It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.” As I said in the OP, I don't particularly care if these guys make a political comeback; if the people are stupid enough to vote for them, they deserve each other. Meanwhile, Weiner picks up a rather silly endorsement: Quote: “Anthony’s a good guy in my opinion. Now, he should’ve came clean once he got busted, you know, and I’m sorry he didn’t do that – but he’s sorry he didn’t do that and his [wife Huma Abedin’s] sorry he didn’t do that,” Ellison said on Current TV to host Bill Press. “Look man, nobody here is perfect. Anthony was a great congressman in my opinion, and he’s dealt with his issues and everybody has issues. So I’d love to see Anthony Weiner be mayor of New York. I hereby endorse him.”
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11th April 2013, 12:13 PM	#10
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27,779	What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again?
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11th April 2013, 12:33 PM	#11
lobosrul Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,312	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again? Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner, unsolicited to at least one woman. Isn't that sexual harassment? http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html
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11th April 2013, 12:35 PM	#12
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27,779	Originally Posted by lobosrul Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner, unsolicited to at least one woman. Isn't that sexual harassment? http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html So what did he do that was so deplorable, again?
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11th April 2013, 12:40 PM	#13
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 24,847	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken So what did he do that was so deplorable, again? He allowed Breitbart to actually be right about something.
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11th April 2013, 12:47 PM	#14
lobosrul Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,312	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken So what did he do that was so deplorable, again? <shrug> Bad enough that I think he deserved to lose his job, yeah. Worse than the guy who lost his job for being overheard saying "big dongles huh huh" at Pycon, yeah. Bad enough to be ineligible to run for public office ever again, no. I for one don't think our elected officials should be sending pictures of their junk to random women on the internet. I wouldn't vote for him or Mark Sanford either for that matter, but if someone else does I guess that's their right.
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11th April 2013, 12:53 PM	#15
ravdin Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,985	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again? He flirted on Twitter and lied about it to reporters. I'm with you on this one, his own party shouldn't have thrown him under the bus.
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11th April 2013, 12:56 PM	#16
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27,779	I wonder how extreme Fox News would get if Weiner got back into the political arena and received a standing ovation when walking in.
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11th April 2013, 01:23 PM	#17
G6000 Muse Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 635	Originally Posted by ANTPogo I think the Democrats should treat him the same way that Republicans are treating Mark Sanford and David Vitter. Precisely what I was thinking. I am sure Weiner has been inspired by Mark Sanford's comeback. If that unbelievable jackass can make a comeback, anyone can.
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11th April 2013, 01:32 PM	#18
G6000 Muse Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 635	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again? When people ask this question, I ask, "Is this the best guy you could find?" This is the kind of juvenile fool who typically never rises above dairy aisle manager at the Piggle Wiggly. A guy who has poor impulse control making decisions which affect every American. That's the best guy you could find in your whole district? What does that say about your district? "Yeah, we have this ass clown who can't behave like a grownup. We couldn't find anyone else." Yeahhhh...
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11th April 2013, 01:43 PM	#19
The Fallen Serpent Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,133	It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face.
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11th April 2013, 03:07 PM	#20
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 43,196	Originally Posted by The Fallen Serpent It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face. Or drove her off a bridge.
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11th April 2013, 03:09 PM	#21
ravdin Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,985	Originally Posted by The Fallen Serpent It is not like he accidentally shot her in the face. Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Or drove her off a bridge. Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress.
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11th April 2013, 03:36 PM	#22
stevea Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,030	Originally Posted by ravdin Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to ~~Congress~~ a Federal court while under oath. FTFY. I don't care a bit it this guy wants to run for office again. Weiner's actions demonstrated that he has no problem violating his wife's trust. What sort of moron would think that he wouldn't violate his constituents trust too ? Amazing that some of the critical thinkers here still rely on the Breitbart ad hom fallacy. Why should it matter if Adolph Hitler broke the story ? Has no impact on Weiner's qualification.
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11th April 2013, 03:39 PM	#23
The Fallen Serpent Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,133	Originally Posted by ravdin Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress. Well, I was more specific than that I suppose.
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11th April 2013, 03:48 PM	#24
G6000 Muse Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 635	Originally Posted by Brainster I don't blame Weiner for trying to make a comeback; that idiot Republican from South Carolina's doing the same thing. I do think that they're both trying it too quickly. One of the many discouraging things I have come to realize in the post 9/11 era is that a large number of each party's demographics have memories like that of a goldfish.
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11th April 2013, 03:51 PM	#25
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27,779	Originally Posted by stevea FTFY. Weiner's actions demonstrated that he has no problem violating his wife's trust. What sort of moron would think that he wouldn't violate his constituents trust too ? What does one have to do with the other? I'm sure many, if not most, of the people elected drive over the speed limit. What makes you think those same people won't violate the law in other aspects?
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11th April 2013, 04:04 PM	#26
Aoidoi Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,654	He gets knocked down, he gets up again. You ain't ever gonna keep him down.
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11th April 2013, 08:27 PM	#27
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,359	He may be roasted by the media again.
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11th April 2013, 08:31 PM	#28
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,359	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken What was it that Weiner did that was so deplorable, again? He got caught with his pants down and he tried to lie about what happened. It's more pathetic and embarrassing than deplorable.
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12th April 2013, 04:43 AM	#29
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 43,196	Originally Posted by ravdin Or ejaculated on an intern and lied to Congress. Oddly enough, I don't consider that to be as serious as murder, or even as serious as drunkenly shooting someone in the face.
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12th April 2013, 10:20 AM	#30
Aoidoi Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,654	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Oddly enough, I don't consider that to be as serious as murder, or even as serious as drunkenly shooting someone in the face. To be fair, I'm pretty sure Cheney was sober when he shot that guy in the face. I totally want Weiner back in politics. For too long the halls of power have been Weinerless. It's time for Weiner to stand up straight and say "I won't be beaten again!"
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12th April 2013, 10:25 AM	#31
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 37,546	Originally Posted by Aoidoi It's time for Weiner to stand up straight and say "I won't be beaten again!" I thought Weiner stood up straight because he was beaten.
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12th April 2013, 10:34 AM	#32
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 37,546	Originally Posted by ravdin He flirted on Twitter and lied about it to reporters. I'm with you on this one, his own party shouldn't have thrown him under the bus. Don't forget that he also accused other people of committing crimes in order to cover up his own lies. Or that the lies were not merely to reporters, but to his own wife as well. As mentioned above, if a man will violate the trust his wife places in him like this, whose trust won't he violate? As for the Democrats throwing him under the bus, he very much deserved that. He got them to go out on a limb for him, and then he cut that limb off. He betrayed them. That deserves to have consequences. If he had been honest from the start (or even if he merely refused to answer questions), then things might be different. But when you get people to back you up and then your lies are exposed, then those people are made to look like fools for lending support to that lie.
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12th April 2013, 10:49 AM	#33
Spindrift Time Person of the Year, 2006 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here! Posts: 17,934	Originally Posted by Ziggurat Don't forget that he also accused other people of committing crimes in order to cover up his own lies. Or that the lies were not merely to reporters, but to his own wife as well. As mentioned above, if a man will violate the trust his wife places in him like this, whose trust won't he violate? Do you have any proof that cheating on your spouse is an indicator of how one acts in their professional career? Originally Posted by Ziggurat As for the Democrats throwing him under the bus, he very much deserved that. He got them to go out on a limb for him, and then he cut that limb off. He betrayed them. That deserves to have consequences. If he had been honest from the start (or even if he merely refused to answer questions), then things might be different. But when you get people to back you up and then your lies are exposed, then those people are made to look like fools for lending support to that lie. The lesson few politicians learn the first time. Either fess up or shut up.
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12th April 2013, 11:24 AM	#34
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 27,779	Originally Posted by Spindrift Do you have any proof that cheating on your spouse is an indicator of how one acts in their professional career? It absolutely proves that the politician is unfit for office (unless he's a Republican, then it's ok.)
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12th April 2013, 11:37 AM	#35
eeyore1954 Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,029	Quote: Originally Posted by lobosrul Weiner sent pictures of his err weiner, Quote: unsolicited to at least one woman . Isn't that sexual harassment? http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...pattern09.html Originally Posted by thaiboxerken So what did he do that was so deplorable, again? If that is what he really did you do not think it is deplorable?
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