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Old 12th October 2016, 06:53 PM   #281
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Assange Rape Charge - a convenient charge at a convenient time which shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.

Too convenient. Too Timely.
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Old 13th October 2016, 01:23 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by Jules Galen View Post
I just re-thought this case a bit. I mean, yeah...the woman got raped and what the guy did was wrong and he needs to be punished for it. However, the young lady who got raped sounds like quite the idiot too....and she was asking for it.

All young women - especially a 22-year-old-woman - know it's dangerous to get black-out drunk among a group of young Horn-Toads they don't even know. I mean, this is just asking for rape...and this woman either knew it, or was too delusional to know it. Anyways...she got raped and maybe this will help her grow the hell up and quit getting drunk in public - and maybe it will be a lesson for a lot of other young, stupid girls who get drunk in public.

Listen...many guys have no respect for girls who willingly get drunk in public and they consider them dirty, filthy sluts. I know I do and there is no way I would ever run to the protection of such a drunken woman. Seriously, I got better things to do with my life than to fight off the rapists that she invited by her behavior. Hey...if I go to combat and get my arse beat on for protecting a woman, it's going to be for a woman that really "wasn't asking for it".
Where do you live, Jules? I'm curious exactly where this line of thinking is considered a legitimate argument.
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Old 13th October 2016, 01:26 AM   #283
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Where do you live, Jules? I'm curious exactly where this line of thinking is considered a legitimate argument.
I find this bit more disturbing

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Old 13th October 2016, 01:57 AM   #284
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Originally Posted by Jules Galen View Post
Assange Rape Charge - a convenient charge at a convenient time which shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.

Too convenient. Too Timely.
Because as we know Assange has been incommunicado for the past few years, and unable to, I don't know, just off the top of my head, come up with any "October surprises"...

In other words...bollocks.
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Assange Rape Charge - a convenient charge at a convenient time which shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.
No it didn't.
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Yeah, Jules is really all over the place with this one: The girl is a filthy slut who was asking for it. Assange deserves to be punished for raping her (note he hasn't even been to trial yet!). The whole thing is a set up by the US to silence Assange (who hasn't actually been silenced).

And of course Jules hasn't actually read the thread.
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which tried to shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.

Assange, a don quixote of modern times
He should have not helped the stupid majority learn the hard facts that the stupid majority was cheated upon

He should have instead spied on the US and sold secrets to China
He would have accelerated the already fast collapse of the empire and made money all the way

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Old 14th October 2016, 03:09 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by SashatheMagnificent View Post
which tried to shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.

Assange, a don quixote of modern times
He should have not helped the stupid majority learn the hard facts that the stupid majority was cheated upon

He should have instead spied on the US and sold secrets to China
He would have accelerated the already fast collapse of the empire and made money all the way
He like Snowden was releasing details of innocent people just trying to do their jobs both undercover and liasing.

He is scum
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Where do you live, Jules? I'm curious exactly where this line of thinking is considered a legitimate argument.
Absolutely not a liberal or progressive.
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This appears on the Daily Kos but it seems a bit suspect to me. The only report seems to be a from a low traffic dating site.


https://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...-year-old-girl

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Just looked into this, and as much as I hate Assange, it's almost certainly ********. The "dating site" filing this report was registered just a year ago, is full of almost certainly fake profiles of women, yet claims to be responsible for 3000 marriages. Their mailing address is an international mail forwarding service. Searching the name of the site on Google turns up nothing but spam and (a surprising amount of porn), and a couple references to this story. I have zero confidence this is an actual dating site anyone's using. Looks like a scam.
They were also de-listed from the UN Global Compact as a result of their complaint for a "reason related to the Integrity Measures"
It seems like a creepy publicity stunt by the company.
That said, it's possible Ecuador did get word of the story and decided to turn his Internet off in response, but I'll wait to hear from the Bamahas before giving any credence to the allegations.

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In more pressing news, Pamela Anderson has assassinated Assange with a vegan sandwich
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Old 18th October 2016, 05:39 AM   #292
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He like Snowden was releasing details of innocent people just trying to do their jobs both undercover and liasing.

He is scum
He is a real freedom fighter
One of the few Americans

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Calling Assange scum is an insult to scum.
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Also, Assange isn't American.
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Old 18th October 2016, 06:22 AM   #295
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
This appears on the Daily Kos but it seems a bit suspect to me. The only report seems to be a from a low traffic dating site.


https://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...-year-old-girl

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Why even post such third hand drivel? There's plenty not to like about Assange, that's actually substantiated. You don't have to repeat every stray bit of gossip.
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Old 18th October 2016, 06:24 AM   #296
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Originally Posted by SashatheMagnificent View Post
which tried to shut down one of America's and Europe's biggest critics.

Assange, a don quixote of modern times
He should have not helped the stupid majority learn the hard facts that the stupid majority was cheated upon

He should have instead spied on the US and sold secrets to China
He would have accelerated the already fast collapse of the empire and made money all the way
Sasha, do you understand what wikileaks is, and why people contribute to it?
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Old 18th October 2016, 06:38 AM   #297
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Originally Posted by SashatheMagnificent View Post
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Assange, a don quixote of modern times
... sold secrets to China
He would have accelerated the already fast collapse of the empire and made money all the way
You call Assange mad, like insane. Time to reread and comprehend Don Quixote?

Why do you keep repeating Russian propaganda?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Why even post such third hand drivel? There's plenty not to like about Assange, that's actually substantiated. You don't have to repeat every stray bit of gossip.
I actually appreciated a preliminary debunk of this.

And it's not third hand drivel, it's from the dating-company itself it seems. So maybe first hand-drivel The story is all over twitter, wikileaks twitter account (e.g Assange) even adressed it and denied it. Can't find it now, I might be mistaken. Or the tweet I saw was a fabrication.

Even if untrue, which seems likely, the story might explain the internet connection issue. Assange explicitly accused Ecuador of responsibility in a tweet today. Might be a reaction to the story. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/788099178832420865
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Sasha, do you understand what wikileaks is, and why people contribute to it?
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Why can't he get internet access? That area should get good 4G according to Ofcom's postcode check.

As regards the accusation the key "evidence" seems to be a cached document. Anyone know how reliable that is? I don't know unglobalcompact's setup but it's possible that they were in fact the ones who posted that while they were still members. With 9000 companies and 4000 "non-business" members I suspect their initial membership check is none too rigorous. Possibly they spotted these people planting a document, checked on them and decided a rather dubious looking dating site may not be for them. Their project Katia claims to have been written by a NotreDame mathematician, it was a guy who graduated in maths from ND so a bit of a stretch.
My gut feeling is that if there was a shred of plausible support certain parties would be all over it.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Yeah, Jules is really all over the place with this one: The girl is a filthy slut who was asking for it. Assange deserves to be punished for raping her (note he hasn't even been to trial yet!). The whole thing is a set up by the US to silence Assange (who hasn't actually been silenced).

And of course Jules hasn't actually read the thread.
Blah Blah Blah. And these women...they probably need to be raped and sodomized just to shot their big, fat mouths. Nothing like a good, hard rape to shut up a yappity woman.
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Why can't he get internet access? That area should get good 4G according to Ofcom's postcode check.

As regards the accusation the key "evidence" seems to be a cached document. Anyone know how reliable that is? I don't know unglobalcompact's setup but it's possible that they were in fact the ones who posted that while they were still members. With 9000 companies and 4000 "non-business" members I suspect their initial membership check is none too rigorous. Possibly they spotted these people planting a document, checked on them and decided a rather dubious looking dating site may not be for them. Their project Katia claims to have been written by a NotreDame mathematician, it was a guy who graduated in maths from ND so a bit of a stretch.
My gut feeling is that if there was a shred of plausible support certain parties would be all over it.
You used to be able to buy cell phone and wifi jamming devices for about $30 on eBay, would render devices unusable (even for emergency calls) within a short radius.
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Why can't he get internet access? That area should get good 4G according to Ofcom's postcode check.

As regards the accusation the key "evidence" seems to be a cached document. Anyone know how reliable that is? I don't know unglobalcompact's setup but it's possible that they were in fact the ones who posted that while they were still members. With 9000 companies and 4000 "non-business" members I suspect their initial membership check is none too rigorous. Possibly they spotted these people planting a document, checked on them and decided a rather dubious looking dating site may not be for them. Their project Katia claims to have been written by a NotreDame mathematician, it was a guy who graduated in maths from ND so a bit of a stretch.
My gut feeling is that if there was a shred of plausible support certain parties would be all over it.
Think he is just trying desperately to remain in the media with the blocked claim
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You used to be able to buy cell phone and wifi jamming devices for about $30 on eBay, would render devices unusable (even for emergency calls) within a short radius.
And an embassy sounds like exactly the type of facility that would bake EM jamming capacity into their security plan from day one.
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Blah Blah Blah. And these women...they probably need to be raped and sodomized just to shot their big, fat mouths. Nothing like a good, hard rape to shut up a yappity woman.
Even as a joke (which likely makes it worse as such things are not a joking matter) this is pathetically disgusting. Good day sir, I said, Good day sir!

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Blah Blah Blah. And these women...they probably need to be raped and sodomized just to shot their big, fat mouths. Nothing like a good, hard rape to shut up a yappity woman.
Dude, seriously...really not funny
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He is a real freedom fighter
One of the few Americans

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"Ecuador has confirmed that it cut off internet access to Julian Assange, the founder of the whistleblowing site WikiLeaks, stating it believed he was using it to interfere in the US presidential election." and Ecuador “respects the principle of non-intervention in the internal affairs of other states” "


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"Ecuador has confirmed that it cut off internet access to Julian Assange, the founder of the whistleblowing site WikiLeaks, stating it believed he was using it to interfere in the US presidential election." and Ecuador “respects the principle of non-intervention in the internal affairs of other states” "


https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...nternet-access
Good on Equador. I guess they don't want to be culpable in a possible Trump win.
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Assange irrelevant.

Must be killing his ego
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Assange irrelevant.

Must be killing his ego
I'd say that cutting off his internet is going to do more to get him to surrender to the police than any government pressure.

Just imagine it. No communicating to the world how innocent and misunderstood he is. No adoring fans commenting on his posts. And worst of all, no internet porn.
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You used to be able to buy cell phone and wifi jamming devices for about $30 on eBay, would render devices unusable (even for emergency calls) within a short radius.
Such devices are illegal in the UK.
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^^ In most civilized countries I would think, for good reason. And harshly punished.
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Such devices are illegal in the UK.
Illegal in the US too, but the Ecuadorian Embassy is Ecuadorian soil. As blutoski noted, the Embassy likely had the technology hard-wired into it's security system.
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It is good that Americans and pro-US people continue in their sleep while the rich take their money

Heck, was it Trump who said that US wages have decreased in the last 20 years?
Assage should have worked FOR the riches not against them
Would have made some money, poor guy
Maybe selling the Chinese one of the few remaining tech secrets of the US or something like that

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Illegal in the US too, but the Ecuadorian Embassy is Ecuadorian soil. As blutoski noted, the Embassy likely had the technology hard-wired into it's security system.
Very unlikely as it would block all signals not just those for Assange, which would make the normal day to day work of the embassy more difficult. More likely they disabled his logon credentials either to their Wifi or LAN, whichever he used. Given the nature of Wikileaks, I doubt someone like Assange would use anything other than a wired connection for sensitive communications.
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Very unlikely as it would block all signals not just those for Assange, which would make the normal day to day work of the embassy more difficult. More likely they disabled his logon credentials either to their Wifi or LAN, whichever he used. Given the nature of Wikileaks, I doubt someone like Assange would use anything other than a wired connection for sensitive communications.

Right, but I was responding to Wudang's question about how Assange didn't have internet access in a good 4G reception area. The technology to locally knock out devices in a short radius is cheap and simple. A few years back a buddy of mine bought one on eBay to stop his daughter from using the phone while driving; we found it's effective radius to be about 10-15 feet. And I would assume security protocols would monitor hard line communications on the Embassy's network.
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It is good that Americans and pro-US people continue in their sleep while the rich take their money

Heck, was it Trump who said that US wages have decreased in the last 20 years?
Assage should have worked FOR the riches not against them
Would have made some money, poor guy
Maybe selling the Chinese one of the few remaining tech secrets of the US or something like that
Wikileaks mission is to foster openness and transparency in governments and corporations worldwide. They rely on donations for support and are not really trying to get rich off their activities, but are trying to wake people up regarding what goes on away from the headlines.
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Old 19th October 2016, 11:17 AM   #320
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Originally Posted by SashatheMagnificent View Post
It is good that Americans and pro-US people continue in their sleep while the rich take their money

Heck, was it Trump who said that US wages have decreased in the last 20 years?
Assage should have worked FOR the riches not against them
Would have made some money, poor guy
Maybe selling the Chinese one of the few remaining tech secrets of the US or something like that
Assange is a publisher. People send him information so that he will publish it. People who want to send secrets to China send them to China, not to Wikileaks. If Assange started selling secrets to China instead of publishing them, he would lose credibility as a publisher. People would stop sending him secrets.

Besides, the Chinese already have plenty of people to send them tech secrets. These are people who have the qualifications and credentials to work in aerospace and other industries where they will be exposed to tech advances. They are also people who are American citizens that can pass a background check and get a security clearance, so that they will have access to the kinds of tech secrets China is looking for.

Assange has none of these qualities. The people that do, who are interested in selling secrets to China, don't need Assange's help to do it.

All in all, if you want Assange to work in opposition to the US, his continued work publishing through Wikileaks is probably his best contribution. Earning money by selling tech secrets to China isn't really an option for him.

ETA: Anyway, what do you think Assange's anti-American efforts have to do with the topic of this thread?

-- Accusations of rape against Assange in Sweden.
-- The Swedish government's attempt to investigate these accusations.
-- Assange's ongoing efforts to prevent the progress of the Swedish investigation.

Also, this thread has been going on for a while. A lot of anti-US ideas have been expressed and discussed already. If you read through it, you might find some good arguments have already been made. You will also see many examples of how to express anti-US views without being sanctioned by the moderators.

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