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Old 15th May 2017, 04:47 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
As long as there was no intent, he's fine...

Anyway, it seems to be another meh story blown up by the MSM...

Tillerson: Trump did not discuss 'sources, methods' in meeting with Russia's Lavrov

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...KCN18B2PP?il=0
Because someone that works for Trump wouldn't give false or misleading statements for him.

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Old 15th May 2017, 04:47 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I don't think that would apply in this case. While it would make him guilty of other crimes (bribery, etc) I don't think any action can make him guilty of violating classification laws.
I did not claim he would be guilty of violating classification laws (which he could be based on the learned comments of others upthread). But if he did so specifically to aid and abet the enemies of the USA he would be guilty of treason, as well as possibly yet other laws, which was my point. Treason is a very serious crime. I believe one can "swing" for it!

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Old 15th May 2017, 04:48 PM   #83
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Maybe there's a tape of the conversation.
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Because someone that works for Trump would never mislead the media for him.
It much more likely that this anonymous source is a fake, a phony, a fraud.
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:49 PM   #85
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Because someone that works for Trump would give false or misleading statements for him.
And Trump hasn't acknowledged as much himself.
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:51 PM   #86
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It much more likely that this anonymous source is a fake, a phony, a fraud.
Because Dear Leader is perfect and therefore wouldn't do this.

But if he did, then it magically is OK since he did it.
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:56 PM   #87
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Apparently there were US Intel officials in the room, and the breach was so serious that right after the meeting they alerted the relevant agencies on an urgent basis.
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:56 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
So once again it's just all crap! Once again the corrupt media have nothing.
Let's say your right. Wouldn't that mean that somebody very close to Trump leaked a bogus story to cause mayhem which itself is huge cause for concern and shows incredible disunity. Trump doesn't have a good relationship with intelligence or with the press and it is only getting worse.
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Because Dear Leader is perfect and therefore wouldn't do this.

But if he did, then it magically is OK since he did it.
No, because the fake news media would do this and their sychophants just drool over it.
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No, because the fake news media would do this and their sychophants just drool over it.
And that must be the case otherwise something negative about Dear Leader would be true.
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
Let's say your right. Wouldn't that mean that somebody very close to Trump leaked a bogus story to cause mayhem which itself is huge cause for concern and shows incredible disunity. Trump doesn't have a good relationship with intelligence or with the press and it is only getting worse.
Yes I'd have to agree. Trump has proven so many times he doesn't have a clue about politics. He doesn't understand a wit of what these liberals are capable of and are doing. He needs people near him to hold his hand through it.
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Old 15th May 2017, 04:59 PM   #92
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Yes I'd have to agree. Trump has proven so many times he doesn't have a clue about politics. He doesn't understand a wit of what these liberals are capable of and are doing. He needs people near him to hold his hand through it.
Dear Leader is clueless on politics and needs a babysitter.

Almost sounds like you're saying bad things about him.

LOL.
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And that must be the case otherwise something negative about Dear Leader would be true.
I'm sure you think this type of negativity is normal.

Get a clue by watching the interviews of the Liberty University speech. They questions they asked were the why do hate Trump type. Fine for here but very telling of the media there.
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Dear Leader is clueless on politics and needs a babysitter.
Yes, that's one way of putting
Quote:
Almost sounds like you're saying bad things about him.

LOL.
Kinda shoots your narrative all to hell doesn't it.
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Old 15th May 2017, 05:02 PM   #95
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I'm sure you think this type of negativity is normal.

Get a clue by watching the interviews of the Liberty University speech. They questions they asked were the why do hate Trump type. Fine for here but very telling of the media there.
Trump and his extreme stupidity, ignorance, dishonesty, narcissism, and corruption are not normal.
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Yes I'd have to agree. Trump has proven so many times he doesn't have a clue about politics. He doesn't understand a wit of what these liberals are capable of and are doing. He needs people near him to hold his hand through it.

He is a 70 year old man for Christ sake! He doesn't need anyone to hold his hand, he needs to
act like an adult for once in his life and accept the consequences of his actions.
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I'm sure you think this type of negativity is normal.

Get a clue by watching the interviews of the Liberty University speech. They questions they asked were the why do hate Trump type. Fine for here but very telling of the media there.
Yep. Trump was right. He could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and his supporters would still have his back.
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Yes, that's one way of putting

Kinda shoots your narrative all to hell doesn't it.
If you want to say that your hero doesn't know what he is doing and needs a babysitter, I certainly won't argue with you. Begs the question of why he is your hero though.
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He is a 70 year old man for Christ sake! He doesn't need anyone to hold his hand, he needs to
act like an adult for once in his life and accept the consequences of his actions.
He reminds me in this case (and others of course) of the aged relative who really shouldn't be driving a car anymore but refuses to stop. Except Trump is driving a bus and we all all passengers.
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He is a 70 year old man for Christ sake! He doesn't need anyone to hold his hand, he needs to
act like an adult for once in his life and accept the consequences of his actions.
Sure as soon as you can prove "the consequences"

Besides, many people haven't a clue of politics, just look at this place.
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Maybe there's a tape of the conversation.
In America? Doubtful. Recordings will be in Russia.
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If you want to say that your hero doesn't know what he is doing and needs a babysitter, I certainly won't argue with you. Begs the question of why he is your hero though.
Might that be your first clue he isn't my hero?
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Originally Posted by gregthehammer View Post
He is a 70 year old man for Christ sake! He doesn't need anyone to hold his hand, he needs to
act like an adult for once in his life and accept the consequences of his actions.
Apparently, the liberals* are just too strong.


* Since logger made the post, liberal could mean just about anyone.
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Originally Posted by Giordano View Post
He reminds me in this case (and others of course) of the aged relative who really shouldn't be driving a car anymore but refuses to stop. Except Trump is driving a bus and we all all passengers.
Yes, this is reality!
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Apparently there were US Intel officials in the room, and the breach was so serious that right after the meeting they alerted the relevant agencies on an urgent basis.
Sounds as if it was not techinicaly illegal.but incredibly stupid on Trump's part. If it was in the US interest to pass this on to the Russians...and you can make the case that Terrorist groups methods are an area where intelligence should be shared......there were ways to do it through back channels that would not have endangered US Intelligence. But, no, Trump had to grandstand.
The man is an idiot. End of story.
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Might that be your first clue he isn't my hero?
No, you just rush to defend him at practically every opportunity.
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Apparently, the liberals* are just too strong.


* Since logger made the post, liberal could mean just about anyone.
Actually the clear reality is Trump is terrible at politics. His business career might be your first clue.
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He is a 70 year old man for Christ sake! He doesn't need anyone to hold his hand, he needs to
act like an adult for once in his life and accept the consequences of his actions.
His physical age is 70, but his refusal to EVER accept responsibilities or EVER acknowledge that he made a mistake or did something wrong show his has an emotional age of 17.
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Apparently there were US Intel officials in the room, and the breach was so serious that right after the meeting they alerted the relevant agencies on an urgent basis.
I've been trying to track down just who was in the meeting. It would help to know just how many were actually present.
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No, you just rush to defend him at practically every opportunity.
And you criticize him at every ridiculous turn. And I just proved to you where I think he's ******* up!
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And you criticize him at every ridiculous turn. And I just proved to you where I think he's ******* up!
Yeah I hate that stupid piece of crap.

And one criticism, wow.
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Actually the clear reality is Trump is terrible at politics. His business career might be your first clue.
This isn't politics. This is Intelligence.

Oh yeah, trump doesn't have much there ( in the standard sense of intelligence), either. As his business career shows (as opposed to his professional celebrity career).
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His physical age is 70, but his refusal to EVER accept responsibilities or EVER acknowledge that he made a mistake or did something wrong show his has an emotional age of 17.
Yes, because you don't understand how politics works?

You'll notice most if not all presidents do this. Trump gets into more trouble because he has people helping him who also don't understand politics.

Simple stuff folks.
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His physical age is 70, but his refusal to EVER accept responsibilities or EVER acknowledge that he made a mistake or did something wrong show his has an emotional age of 17.
That is an insult to 17 year olds.
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Yeah I hate that stupid piece of crap.

And one criticism, wow.
Interesting, I don't hate anyone.
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He reminds me in this case (and others of course) of the aged relative who really shouldn't be driving a car anymore but refuses to stop. Except Trump is driving a bus and we all all passengers.
And everyone around said aged relative is too intimidated to take the keys away.
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This isn't politics. This is Intelligence.

Oh yeah, trump doesn't have much there ( in the standard sense of intelligence), either. As his business career shows (as opposed to his professional celebrity career).
Right now he's on the phone with Mark Burnett, looking for a fall time slot.
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Sure as soon as you can prove "the consequences"

Besides, many people haven't a clue of politics, just look at this place.
Prove the consequences? I'm going to be generous and assume you meant "prove the actions". In this case, Trump ran for potus. He won and is now potus. That is the consequence I am referring to. To suggest that we excuse his inexperience in politics and grant him Mulligan after Mulligan is ludicrous. If we have to hold our leaders by the hand, are they really fit to lead?
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This isn't politics. This is Intelligence.

Oh yeah, trump doesn't have much there ( in the standard sense of intelligence), either. As his business career shows (as opposed to his professional celebrity career).
You haven't a clue, it's obviously politics. It doesn't even matter about his intelligence when it comes to these kinds of things. The dumbest person in the world can walk right through when handled correctly. We're dealing with the left, they deal with everything through emotion.
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Maybe there's a tape of the conversation.
Now that'll get them hyped up!
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