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Old 27th November 2019, 12:04 PM   #1
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Clive James: Goonnee

Apologies a bit over long

Pretty amazing dude really

Sad

Good innings though

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...james-obituary

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Guardian:Clive James obituary

The writer and broadcaster Clive James, who has died aged 80, once wrote a poem about visiting his father’s grave at the Sai Wan war cemetery in Hong Kong. His father, Albert, who had survived a PoW camp and then forced labour in Japan, died when the plane bringing him home crashed in Taiwan, and James later described this as the “defining event” in his life. The poem, My Father Before Me, ends:

Back at the gate, I turn to face the hill,
Your headstone lost again among the rest.
I have no time to waste, much less to kill.
My life is yours; my curse, to be so blessed.

James, who was six when Albert died, spent much of his subsequent life as a poet, essayist and broadcaster producing articles and song lyrics, many poetry collections and volumes of critical essays, four novels and five books of memoirs, as well as hosting umpteen television shows. That fever of busyness was to compensate not only for his father’s death, but for how his mother’s life fell apart on being widowed. “I am trying to lead the life they might have had,” he said in 2009. “It’s a chance to pay them back for my life. I don’t like luck; I’ve had a lot of it.”
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Old 27th November 2019, 01:55 PM   #2
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He got leukaemia and failed kidneys 10 years ago, so to survive to 80 is amazing. To be honest I thought he was already dead.

A great man.
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That is sad. I always liked his writing.
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Sad news.
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Old 27th November 2019, 02:20 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Elaedith View Post
That is sad. I always liked his writing.
His poetry was crap.
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Very sad, he's wanged his donger in the kedgeree for the last time.
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Old 27th November 2019, 02:23 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
His poetry was crap.
How would you know? You think all poetry is crap.




You do have a point, it wasn't his greatest skill.
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Old 27th November 2019, 02:24 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood View Post
How would you know? You think all poetry is crap.









You do have a point, it wasn't his greatest skill.
That is how I know his poetry was crap!
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
His poetry was crap.
Personally have never trusted poets who can't write rhymey style.

It is like they are only making half the effort
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
His poetry was crap.
He was always very complimentary about you.
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Too bad he had to be a vocal and influential global warming denier.
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Too bad he had to be a vocal and influential global warming denier.
The "Yin" to Greta's "Yang"
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"its....... Jerry Hall !!!!"
I saw that. He was very entertaining and intelligent, great sense of humour. It was very disappointing when he started blabbing on about climate like he actually knew more about it than a scientist.
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
I saw that. He was very entertaining and intelligent, great sense of humour. It was very disappointing when he started blabbing on about climate like he actually knew more about it than a scientist.
That seemed to be late in his existence, when a bunch of us tend to get crusty and staid in our opinions.

Also, it appears clear Clive was harking back through rose-coloured glasses to the sparkly bright blue days of his yoof on the Sydney beaches. Those days are now fairly rare; the beaches of his memories are fast disappearing. He was wrong; his targets of climate skepticism were right. So it was more like he could not accept the impermanence of his memories.

Also, get off my lawn, mate.
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I saw that. He was very entertaining and intelligent, great sense of humour. It was very disappointing when he started blabbing on about climate like he actually knew more about it than a scientist.
"Its... Jerry Hall" is the first thing that comes to mind whenever I think of Clive James, or whenever his name gets mentioned.. For some reason, that particular episode stuck with me. I don't remember much about it, but I do remember my ribs began to ache while I was watching!
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Very sad, he's wanged his donger in the kedgeree for the last time.
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I haven't read a lot of his stuff, but his first volume of memoirs - 'Unreliable Memoirs' - is one of my favourite books, and I can thoroughly recommend it.
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I haven't read a lot of his stuff, but his first volume of memoirs - 'Unreliable Memoirs' - is one of my favourite books, and I can thoroughly recommend it.
I'd quite forgotten that I'd read that years ago and found it a very enjoyable read.
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I've heard a lot of names and descriptions for Arnold Schwarzenegger; "the Austrian Oak", "Arnie", "Schwarzy" and "The Governator", but Clive James' description of him tops the lot...

"a brown condom full of walnuts"
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Have complete understanding for the trim mods.

And good pick for the paragraph
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"a brown condom full of walnuts"
I wonder what Arnie's nickname for Clive James was.
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I wonder what Arnie's nickname for Clive James was.
Balded Aussie idiot climate change denier, I would imagine

Mind you he probably hasn't got much longer given the 'roids.
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I wonder what Arnie's nickname for Clive James was.
Who?
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I wonder what Arnie's nickname for Clive James was.
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Who?
I expect so.

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Mind you he probably hasn't got much longer given the 'roids.
Nah, he looks well enough to me.
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I saw that. He was very entertaining and intelligent, great sense of humour. It was very disappointing when he started blabbing on about climate like he actually knew more about it than a scientist.
At least his climate stance ensured he got a big write up in the Murdoch press, they called him a 'giant'.

If he had said climate change was real they would have limited it to a sentence buried on page 8 "Former television critic Olive James dies at 80"
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I never stopped to wonder why I hadn't heard from or about him for so many years, didn't know he was so ill, for so long. Poor bastard.

Back in the early 1970's my dad often used to drive up to the West End in the small hours of Sunday to get the Sunday Times and Observer, and I vividly remember the laughs I got from James's TV reviews, this from c. age twelve on [ETA which isn't trying to paint myself as precocious, just that the man had a relaxed Aussie wit, and a way of putting it in written words that anyone (of any age) can enjoy].

Many years later I read many of the same columns again, compiled in The Crystal Bucket, they were still FAF.
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I've heard a lot of names and descriptions for Arnold Schwarzenegger; "the Austrian Oak", "Arnie", "Schwarzy" and "The Governator", but Clive James' description of him tops the lot...

"a brown condom full of walnuts"
... who "talks like he's got a mouthful of marbles"
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