Quack TV “Doctor” Mehmet Oz Announces Pennsylvania Senate GOP Primary Run - Page 3

Norman Alexander · 25th March 2022, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Oz is whining that he got 'fired' by Biden. Oz was asked to resign, or be terminated, from the President's Council on Sports, Fitness & Nutrition. Oz then claimed "It's beyond sad that Joe Biden would politicize such an important issue as health. The doctor he should ask to resign is Dr. Fauci, for a multitude of obvious reasons. If President Biden wants to politicize health, he will have to fire me. You would think record gas prices, a 40-year inflation high, and the situation in Ukraine would be his highest priorities at the moment."
"“Clearly, Joe Biden can’t be around anyone who doesn’t completely fall in line with his fear-mongering authoritarian one-size-fits-all COVID handling. I am proud of my service and will not resign,”

Trouble is, it is the Biden Administration's policy that does not allow candidates running for federal office to serve on presidential boards.
That Oz sees himself as a victim does not surprise me. If anyone is 'politicizing' this, it's Oz. Suck it up, buttercup, and put on your big boy pants.

Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first.

So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished.

Gord_in_Toronto · 25th March 2022, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first.

So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished.

Assumes a fact not in evidence. Based on what he says, it is obvious he is mostly clueless.

Stacyhs · 25th March 2022, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first.

So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished.

Actually, no. The Hatch Act exempts Special Government Employees such as members of Presidential Commissions.

Quote:

However, special government employees (SGEs), such as those who are part of a commission, may run for partisan political office, according to a 2019 advisory opinion issued by OSC Hatch Act Unit Chief Ana Galindo Marron. But they cannot participate in campaign-related activity while performing official government work.

https://www.fox61.com/article/news/v...c-fef1022c1c32

But it is within the president's power to prohibit it, which the Biden Administration has done. Hershel Walker, also appointed by Trump to the same Presidential Commission, received the same letter.

Skeptic Ginger · 26th March 2022, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

Assumes a fact not in evidence. Based on what he says, it is obvious he is mostly clueless.

Facts you say? This is a post fact GOP so it isn't relative.

It suggests Oz knows more about winning over the GOP base than maybe we give him credit for.

And let's not forget, he doesn't have to win to get a ton of publicity for his supplement business. His TV appearances may have been waning recently.

dudalb · 28th March 2022, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Actually, no. The Hatch Act exempts Special Government Employees such as members of Presidential Commissions.

https://www.fox61.com/article/news/v...c-fef1022c1c32

But it is within the president's power to prohibit it, which the Biden Administration has done. Hershel Walker, also appointed by Trump to the same Presidential Commission, received the same letter.

Also, any Federal Employee can run for non partisan postions, such as school board member, etc.

stanfr · 3rd June 2022, 06:22 PM

So is the Oz victory a good thing or bad thing? Obviously it would be horrific if he won in the general election, but might it be good to mobilize the opposition vote, given that pretty much any sane person knows that Oz is evil?

Sideroxylon · 3rd June 2022, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans.

If they think it will own the Libs and get some more judges in they will back Satan, Lord of Darkness.

Skeptic Ginger · 3rd June 2022, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

If they think it will own the Libs and get some more judges in they will back Satan, Lord of Darkness.

They voted for Rump didn't they? And here they voted for Oz who wasn't really even a Penn resident.

Hopefully the fact the vote was split bodes well for the Democrat.

kookbreaker · 3rd June 2022, 07:47 PM

Hopefully Fetterman will recover quickly.

Skeptic Ginger · 3rd June 2022, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Hopefully Fetterman will recover quickly.

He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred.

The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis.

kookbreaker · 4th June 2022, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred.

The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis.

I hope you are right.

Fetterman may have to slow down, and his appeal is that he can actually appeal to getting crossover votes. But that means travel and work.

Oz is trying to run against general liberalism, and hasn’t addressed Fetterman as a candidate yet. Oz also need to shed his out-of-state image.

ZiprHead · 4th June 2022, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred.

The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis.

As I understand, he also had a pacemaker/defibrillator installed.

From my years as a hospital chargemaster, those things cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars.

shemp · 5th June 2022, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by ZiprHead

As I understand, he also had a pacemaker/defibrillator installed.

From my years as a hospital chargemaster, those things cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars.

But did Dr. Oz install it?

ZiprHead · 5th June 2022, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

But did Dr. Oz install it?

Heh!

I wouldn't let that quack anywhere near me.

kookbreaker · 18th June 2022, 03:04 PM

Oz the Everyman

https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA

Stacyhs · 18th June 2022, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Oz the Everyman

https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA

That's as staged a photo as a smiling Trump shaking a black man's hand.

shemp · 18th June 2022, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Oz the Everyman

https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA

And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him?

Delphic Oracle · 18th June 2022, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him?

And who failed to tell him to take his ill-fitted jacket off and roll his sleeves up

plague311 · 20th June 2022, 06:33 AM

Everything about the picture sucks, and the comments are outstanding. Here this poor guy is just trying to move some gravel around, probably repair a back road, and up comes Dr. Oz to get a photo shoot.

Nothing in that picture goes together.

Mike! · 20th June 2022, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

Everything about the picture sucks, and the comments are outstanding. Here this poor guy is just trying to move some gravel around, probably repair a back road, and up comes Dr. Oz to get a photo shoot.

Nothing in that picture goes together.

Yeah, that's pretty much what the picture screams to me as well. "Oh look, a hard working Joe in action, a perfect photo opportunity!"

Athyrio · 20th June 2022, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Mike!

Yeah, that's pretty much what the picture screams to me as well. "Oh look, a hard working Joe in action, a perfect photo opportunity!"

If he’s going to resort to such insincerity, I would advise him to start kissing babies. At least we might have a chance to bring him down on some sexual assault charge as a pedo.

Donal · 20th June 2022, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him?

Probably just some dude trying to get his work done when Dro Oz from TV asked for a picture. That guy may not know Oz is running for senate. He may not even be able to recognize Oz.

Donal · 20th June 2022, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle

And who failed to tell him to take his ill-fitted jacket off and roll his sleeves up

An ill-fitting, 3-button jacket. That's another thing I never got about the Orange weakling. The guy professed to be a billionaire but his suits looked like his big brother's hand-me-downs. Is this really going to be a trend? Will the next line of attacks against Dems be that they must be elitist because their clothes fit?

kookbreaker · 20th June 2022, 09:11 AM

Oz also cannot spell the PA township he claims to reside in.

https://twitter.com/politicspa/statu...MlueD1Vn8A4dMQ

Trebuchet · 20th June 2022, 10:15 AM

Oprah Winfrey has a lot to answer for. Oz, Dr. Phil, The Secret, and on and on.

Donal · 20th June 2022, 11:12 AM

not-a-Dr Phil. Jon of God. Jenny McCarthy. She's done some real damage.

Gord_in_Toronto · 20th June 2022, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Donal

not-a-Dr Phil. Jon of God. Jenny McCarthy. She's done some real damage.

Can you say, "SATAN"? (Well a little stretch.)

mikegriffith1 · 27th June 2022, 02:51 PM

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

dudalb · 27th June 2022, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

BS, Oz is a quack with his excessive claims. As for medical degrees, quite a few people with medical degrees turn quack.
But I see you are one of those who would probably vote for Hitler if he ran on the GOP ticket.

eerok · 27th June 2022, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

Should be "dangerous quack" since all he does is spread misinformation while pretending to represent medical science.

kookbreaker · 27th June 2022, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

"Magic" weight loss claims - multiple times including pills he sells.
Speaking with the dead nonsense
Homeopathy advocacy
Rieki healing
Hydroxychlorquinine
Astrology for health
Various quack cold & flu cures, including collodial silver
Conversion Therapy
Negative Ion Pajamas

These are just a fraction of the quack claims Oz has made. This is a skeptics forum, did you think we'd just let you hand-wave this BS?

dudalb · 27th June 2022, 03:53 PM

For those who think that having advanced medical degrees shows you are not a quack. I give you the long list of "Dr.Feelgood"'s who were licensed to practice medicine but ended up peddling snake oil and phony cures and prescreding unneeded drugs to wealthy patients,particualry in Show Business.
No secret in Hollywood there were a number of doctors who, if you had the money and wanted prescription drugs for recreatinoal purporses would get you whatever you wanted ..for a price.

Gord_in_Toronto · 27th June 2022, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

For those who think that having advanced medical degrees shows you are not a quack. I give you the long list of "Dr.Feelgood"'s who were licensed to practice medicine but ended up peddling snake oil and phony cures and prescreding unneeded drugs to wealthy patients,particualry in Show Business.
No secret in Hollywood there were a number of doctors who, if you had the money and wanted prescription drugs for recreatinoal purporses would get you whatever you wanted ..for a price.

I JUST KNEW that's what got Flipper!

grunion · 27th June 2022, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

Not excessive. Rather conservative use of the term in this case I should think. Here’s https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-seal-of-approval/ Mark Crislip of Science Based Medicine justification for the use of the term in the Doctor’s case. Oz ticks every quack box there is.

Armitage72 · 28th June 2022, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by mikegriffith1

A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.

If "alternative medicine" worked, it would just be called "medicine".

dudalb · 28th June 2022, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

I JUST KNEW that's what got Flipper!

Sure as hell got Elvis and his would have been Son In Law Michael Jackson. In fact, one of Jackson's doctors went to jail for his obtaining drugs for Jackson.

dudalb · 28th June 2022, 12:27 PM

Quacks with MD's are nothing new. They see they is money to be made with quack medicine , more then they can make legitmately, and then they use their MD as a selling point for the suckers.

dudalb · 28th June 2022, 12:28 PM

As stated, Mike would support Adolf Hitler if he ran as a GOP candidate.

Donal · 29th June 2022, 05:18 AM

I don't think Hitler could win in today's GOP. He spent too much money on public welfare projects.

Stacyhs · 3rd July 2022, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto

I JUST KNEW that's what got Flipper!

I heard Mr. Ed went down from a horse overdose. He just had to ride the white horse.

25th March 2022, 06:43 PM	#81
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 13,602	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Oz is whining that he got 'fired' by Biden. Oz was asked to resign, or be terminated, from the President's Council on Sports, Fitness & Nutrition. Oz then claimed "It's beyond sad that Joe Biden would politicize such an important issue as health. The doctor he should ask to resign is Dr. Fauci, for a multitude of obvious reasons. If President Biden wants to politicize health, he will have to fire me. You would think record gas prices, a 40-year inflation high, and the situation in Ukraine would be his highest priorities at the moment." "“Clearly, Joe Biden can’t be around anyone who doesn’t completely fall in line with his fear-mongering authoritarian one-size-fits-all COVID handling. I am proud of my service and will not resign,” Trouble is, it is the Biden Administration's policy that does not allow candidates running for federal office to serve on presidential boards. That Oz sees himself as a victim does not surprise me. If anyone is 'politicizing' this, it's Oz. Suck it up, buttercup, and put on your big boy pants. Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first. So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished.
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25th March 2022, 06:53 PM	#82
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23,343	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first. So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished. Assumes a fact not in evidence. Based on what he says, it is obvious he is mostly clueless.
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28th March 2022, 07:02 PM	#85
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,211	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Actually, no. The Hatch Act exempts Special Government Employees such as members of Presidential Commissions. https://www.fox61.com/article/news/v...c-fef1022c1c32 But it is within the president's power to prohibit it, which the Biden Administration has done. Hershel Walker, also appointed by Trump to the same Presidential Commission, received the same letter. Also, any Federal Employee can run for non partisan postions, such as school board member, etc.
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3rd June 2022, 06:22 PM	#86
stanfr Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,259	So is the Oz victory a good thing or bad thing? Obviously it would be horrific if he won in the general election, but might it be good to mobilize the opposition vote, given that pretty much any sane person knows that Oz is evil?
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3rd June 2022, 07:47 PM	#89
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,322	Hopefully Fetterman will recover quickly.
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25th March 2022, 11:37 PM	#83
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,607	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Hatch Act. Government employees, of which Oz’s position on that council is one, cannot run for office as it is perceived as taking advantage. They must resign first. So Biden is doing Oz a favour, given Oz is running for office. Removing a potential legal stumbling block for him. Oz knows this, of course, but no GOP candidate can let a good deed go unpunished. Actually, no. The Hatch Act exempts Special Government Employees such as members of Presidential Commissions. Quote: However, special government employees (SGEs), such as those who are part of a commission, may run for partisan political office, according to a 2019 advisory opinion issued by OSC Hatch Act Unit Chief Ana Galindo Marron. But they cannot participate in campaign-related activity while performing official government work. https://www.fox61.com/article/news/v...c-fef1022c1c32 But it is within the president's power to prohibit it, which the Biden Administration has done. Hershel Walker, also appointed by Trump to the same Presidential Commission, received the same letter.

26th March 2022, 02:01 AM	#84
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,987	Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto Assumes a fact not in evidence. Based on what he says, it is obvious he is mostly clueless. Facts you say? This is a post fact GOP so it isn't relative. It suggests Oz knows more about winning over the GOP base than maybe we give him credit for. And let's not forget, he doesn't have to win to get a ton of publicity for his supplement business. His TV appearances may have been waning recently.

3rd June 2022, 06:48 PM	#87
Sideroxylon Featherless biped Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aporia Posts: 26,423	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Oz was born in the US. But being Muslim will be a difficult obstacle to overcome with rural Republicans. If they think it will own the Libs and get some more judges in they will back Satan, Lord of Darkness.

3rd June 2022, 07:22 PM	#88
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,987	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon If they think it will own the Libs and get some more judges in they will back Satan, Lord of Darkness. They voted for Rump didn't they? And here they voted for Oz who wasn't really even a Penn resident. Hopefully the fact the vote was split bodes well for the Democrat.

3rd June 2022, 09:27 PM	#90
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 92,987	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Hopefully Fetterman will recover quickly. He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred. The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis.

4th June 2022, 07:55 PM	#91
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,322	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred. The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis. I hope you are right. Fetterman may have to slow down, and his appeal is that he can actually appeal to getting crossover votes. But that means travel and work. Oz is trying to run against general liberalism, and hasn’t addressed Fetterman as a candidate yet. Oz also need to shed his out-of-state image.
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4th June 2022, 08:15 PM	#92
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 873	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger He's already recovered. They dissolved the clot before any permanent damage occurred. The thing about strokes from afib clots is you resolve the etiology of the stroke. They are unlike strokes because of atherosclerotic narrowing of brain arteries/arterioles which have a poorer prognosis. As I understand, he also had a pacemaker/defibrillator installed. From my years as a hospital chargemaster, those things cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars.
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5th June 2022, 09:47 AM	#93
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 52,706	Originally Posted by ZiprHead As I understand, he also had a pacemaker/defibrillator installed. From my years as a hospital chargemaster, those things cost 40 to 50 thousand dollars. But did Dr. Oz install it?
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5th June 2022, 10:45 AM	#94
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 873	Originally Posted by shemp But did Dr. Oz install it? Heh! I wouldn't let that quack anywhere near me.
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18th June 2022, 03:04 PM	#95
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,322	Oz the Everyman https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA
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18th June 2022, 03:22 PM	#96
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 28,607	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Oz the Everyman https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA That's as staged a photo as a smiling Trump shaking a black man's hand.

18th June 2022, 04:14 PM	#97
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 52,706	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Oz the Everyman https://twitter.com/jasonselvig/stat...DLuTQc8soKKPJA And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him?
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18th June 2022, 06:14 PM	#98
Delphic Oracle Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 6,286	Originally Posted by shemp And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him? And who failed to tell him to take his ill-fitted jacket off and roll his sleeves up

20th June 2022, 06:33 AM	#99
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 13,707	Everything about the picture sucks, and the comments are outstanding. Here this poor guy is just trying to move some gravel around, probably repair a back road, and up comes Dr. Oz to get a photo shoot. Nothing in that picture goes together.
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20th June 2022, 08:02 AM	#100
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 48,726	Originally Posted by plague311 Everything about the picture sucks, and the comments are outstanding. Here this poor guy is just trying to move some gravel around, probably repair a back road, and up comes Dr. Oz to get a photo shoot. Nothing in that picture goes together. Yeah, that's pretty much what the picture screams to me as well. "Oh look, a hard working Joe in action, a perfect photo opportunity!"
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20th June 2022, 08:37 AM	#101
Athyrio Hipster Doofus Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nutsack, FL Posts: 2,445	Originally Posted by Mike! Yeah, that's pretty much what the picture screams to me as well. "Oh look, a hard working Joe in action, a perfect photo opportunity!" If he’s going to resort to such insincerity, I would advise him to start kissing babies. At least we might have a chance to bring him down on some sexual assault charge as a pedo.
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20th June 2022, 09:07 AM	#102
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by shemp And who's the moron who agreed to pose with him? Probably just some dude trying to get his work done when Dro Oz from TV asked for a picture. That guy may not know Oz is running for senate. He may not even be able to recognize Oz.
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20th June 2022, 09:10 AM	#103
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle And who failed to tell him to take his ill-fitted jacket off and roll his sleeves up An ill-fitting, 3-button jacket. That's another thing I never got about the Orange weakling. The guy professed to be a billionaire but his suits looked like his big brother's hand-me-downs. Is this really going to be a trend? Will the next line of attacks against Dems be that they must be elitist because their clothes fit?
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20th June 2022, 09:11 AM	#104
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,322	Oz also cannot spell the PA township he claims to reside in. https://twitter.com/politicspa/statu...MlueD1Vn8A4dMQ
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20th June 2022, 10:15 AM	#105
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20th June 2022, 11:12 AM	#106
Donal Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,229	not-a-Dr Phil. Jon of God. Jenny McCarthy. She's done some real damage.
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20th June 2022, 01:54 PM	#107
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23,343	Originally Posted by Donal not-a-Dr Phil. Jon of God. Jenny McCarthy. She's done some real damage. Can you say, "SATAN"? (Well a little stretch.)
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27th June 2022, 02:51 PM	#108
mikegriffith1 Critical Thinker Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 484	A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive.
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27th June 2022, 02:58 PM	#109
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,211	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive. BS, Oz is a quack with his excessive claims. As for medical degrees, quite a few people with medical degrees turn quack. But I see you are one of those who would probably vote for Hitler if he ran on the GOP ticket.
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27th June 2022, 03:03 PM	#110
eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 5,369	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive. Should be "dangerous quack" since all he does is spread misinformation while pretending to represent medical science.
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27th June 2022, 03:22 PM	#111
kookbreaker Evil Fokker Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,322	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive. "Magic" weight loss claims - multiple times including pills he sells. Speaking with the dead nonsense Homeopathy advocacy Rieki healing Hydroxychlorquinine Astrology for health Various quack cold & flu cures, including collodial silver Conversion Therapy Negative Ion Pajamas These are just a fraction of the quack claims Oz has made. This is a skeptics forum, did you think we'd just let you hand-wave this BS?
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27th June 2022, 03:53 PM	#112
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,211	For those who think that having advanced medical degrees shows you are not a quack. I give you the long list of "Dr.Feelgood"'s who were licensed to practice medicine but ended up peddling snake oil and phony cures and prescreding unneeded drugs to wealthy patients,particualry in Show Business. No secret in Hollywood there were a number of doctors who, if you had the money and wanted prescription drugs for recreatinoal purporses would get you whatever you wanted ..for a price.
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27th June 2022, 04:26 PM	#113
Gord_in_Toronto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23,343	Originally Posted by dudalb For those who think that having advanced medical degrees shows you are not a quack. I give you the long list of "Dr.Feelgood"'s who were licensed to practice medicine but ended up peddling snake oil and phony cures and prescreding unneeded drugs to wealthy patients,particualry in Show Business. No secret in Hollywood there were a number of doctors who, if you had the money and wanted prescription drugs for recreatinoal purporses would get you whatever you wanted ..for a price. I JUST KNEW that's what got Flipper!
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27th June 2022, 10:06 PM	#114
grunion Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10,075	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive. Not excessive. Rather conservative use of the term in this case I should think. Here’s https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/a-seal-of-approval/ Mark Crislip of Science Based Medicine justification for the use of the term in the Doctor’s case. Oz ticks every quack box there is.
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28th June 2022, 06:01 AM	#115
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,550	Originally Posted by mikegriffith1 A "quack"? Why? Because he believes that faith can heal in some cases, that alternative medicines sometimes work, and that some phenomena are paranormal? Oz is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and a professor emeritus at Columbia University. "Quack" seems a bit excessive. If "alternative medicine" worked, it would just be called "medicine".