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Old 12th January 2019, 12:27 PM   #2601
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How can we know anything? What if what you see as blue, I see as green? Or if all of this is a figment of my imagination? Or if I'm the figment of someone else's imagination?
I'm not asserting I do know anything. I'm asking about your assertion.
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:17 PM   #2602
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I'm not asserting I do know anything. I'm asking about your assertion.
How can you ask him about his assertion if you don't know he made an assertion?
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:24 PM   #2603
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How do you know he doesn't know?
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:27 PM   #2604
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How can you ask him about his assertion if you don't know he made an assertion?
I don't feel knowing it is an assertion is a requirement for asking.
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:32 PM   #2605
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I have no opinion on that.
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:34 PM   #2606
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
Because he’s got the emergency-powers arrow squirrel in his quivver back pocket, all set to let it fly loose* on that day?

*Thank goodness, poor thing.
There are already enough squirrels loose in his head. So what's one more!
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:38 PM   #2607
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
I don't feel knowing it is an assertion is a requirement for asking.
Who are you posting about?
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Old 12th January 2019, 02:41 PM   #2608
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Old 12th January 2019, 03:36 PM   #2609
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I don't feel knowing it is an assertion is a requirement for asking.
But how do you know that you don't feel that?
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Old 12th January 2019, 03:48 PM   #2610
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Trump Tweets

Wow, just learned in the Failing New York Times that the corrupt former leaders of the FBI, almost all fired or forced to leave the agency for some very bad reasons, opened up an investigation on me, for no reason & with no proof, after I fired Lyin’ James Comey, a total sleaze!...

...Funny thing about James Comey. Everybody wanted him fired, Republican and Democrat alike. After the rigged & botched Crooked Hillary investigatAmerica. He was a Crooked Cop...

.....who is being totally protected by his best friend, Bob Mueller, & the 13 Angry Democrats - leaking machines who have NO interest in going after the Real Collusion (and much more) by Crooked Hillary Clinton, her Campaign, and the Democratic National Committee. Just Watch!
Comey and the FBI hid the existence of the investigation into the Trump campaign from the American public prior to the election.

Mueller was named special counsel by a Trump appointee.

Anyone who believes Trump’s conspiracy theories is a moron.
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:04 PM   #2611
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But how do you know that you don't feel that?
Not a clue
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:10 PM   #2612
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I've no opinion about that.
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:37 PM   #2613
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President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladi*mir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.

Trump did so after a meeting with Putin in 2017 in Hamburg that was also attended by then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. U.S. officials learned of Trump’s actions when a White House adviser and a senior State Department official sought information from the interpreter beyond a readout shared by Tillerson.

The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States’ main adversaries.

As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years. Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference.
Linky.

Totally innocent.
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:40 PM   #2614
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How do you know it isn't swift?
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How can we know anything? What if what you see as blue, I see as green? Or if all of this is a figment of my imagination? Or if I'm the figment of someone else's imagination?
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I'm not asserting I do know anything. I'm asking about your assertion.
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How can you ask him about his assertion if you don't know he made an assertion?
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How do you know he doesn't know?
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I don't feel knowing it is an assertion is a requirement for asking.
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I have no opinion on that.
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Who are you posting about?
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Bobthecoward
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But how do you know that you don't feel that?
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Not a clue
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I've no opinion about that.

Whut?
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Old 12th January 2019, 04:59 PM   #2615
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Whut?
Obviously, you have never previously encountered an example of "bobbing a thread"!
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Old 12th January 2019, 05:07 PM   #2616
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Obviously, you have never previously encountered an example of "bobbing a thread"!
Which, unfortunately, is more a result of others responding than of Bob himself.
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:02 PM   #2617
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Trump Tweets

Lyin’ James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter S and his lover, agent Lisa Page, & more, all disgraced and/or fired and caught in the act. These are just some of the losers that tried to do a number on your President. Part of the Witch Hunt. Remember the “insurance policy?” This is it!
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Lisa Page was a lawyer, not an agent, IIRC.

And apparently Trump still hasn't figured out how to spell "Strzok".
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:13 PM   #2618
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Obviously, you have never previously encountered an example of "bobbing a thread"!

This is more like an example of "Bobbing a Bob".
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:40 PM   #2619
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
This is more like an example of "Bobbing a Bob".
What? Recursive "bobbing"?

Tell me it ain't so.

Back to topic, it seems to me that Trump supporters are simple sheep. As Trump ramps up his rhetoric, so they in turn ramp up their apologia.

Surely at some point the disconnect must become untenable.
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:49 PM   #2620
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Which, unfortunately, is more a result of others responding than of Bob himself.
Let's not blame the fish for the fisherman's hook.
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:52 PM   #2621
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I still honestly want to know what one considers swift justice.
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:58 PM   #2622
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I still honestly want to know what one considers swift justice.
Justice that happens quickly.
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Old 12th January 2019, 06:59 PM   #2623
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Justice that happens quickly.
You're gonna be soooooooorrryyyyyyy….
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Let's not blame the fish for the fisherman's hook.
Fine. I'll accept responses to Bob from anyone who acknowledges being as dumb as a fish.
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You're gonna be soooooooorrryyyyyyy….
I am quite familiar . Sometimes I like to play a little but then I get bored easily and just stop.
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I still honestly want to know what one considers swift justice.
A kick in the nuts.
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I am quite familiar . Sometimes I like to play a little but then I get bored easily and just stop.
Yeah, I can relate. Look at it as entertainment.
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Linky.

Totally innocent.
He's the president. Just trust him.
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He's the president. Just trust him.
Would he lie to you?
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Trump took notes from his translators, there are no records, not even classified ones, of what Trump and Putin discussed, and even some of Trump's advisors are in the dark.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...0a8_story.html
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Trump took notes from his translators, there are no records, not even classified ones, of what Trump and Putin discussed, and even some of Trump's advisors are in the dark.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...0a8_story.html

Perhaps Putin will have kept a record?
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Perhaps Putin will have kept a record?

I expect he has a recording of every meeting.
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I expect he has a recording of every meeting.
I would act on the assumption that Putin will be having every meeting recorded. And not just the ones he attends.
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Mueller Investigation pt4

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump took notes from his translators, there are no records, not even classified ones, of what Trump and Putin discussed, and even some of Trump's advisors are in the dark.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...0a8_story.html


I’ve read these reports and I find myself skeptical. The stories are almost too good for the narrative that Trump is beholden to Putin, like maybe a leaker(s) with an agenda is feeding them to the reporter. I want to read some more thorough reporting before making up my mind.

Maybe someone can research Trump’s interactions with other shady leaders and compare/contrast. For instance, at the start of the presidency, we read a lot of stories that it was his habit to tear up the paper of his speeches, notes, etc. into little pieces and that archivists were having to re-assemble them for public records purposes. Not that this would excuse anything, I’m just a little leery of this storyline.

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I’ve read these reports and I find myself skeptical. The stories are almost too good for the narrative that Trump is beholden to Putin, like maybe a leaker with an agenda is feeding them to the reporter. I want to read some more thorough reporting before making up my mind. Maybe someone can research Trump’s interactions with other shady leaders and compare/contrast. For instance, at the start of the presidency, we read a lot of stories that it was his habit tore up speeches, notes, etc. Not that this would excuse anything, I’m just a little leery of this storyline.
We already know for a fact that customary meeting "read outs" were not read out.
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We already know for a fact that customary meeting "read outs" were not read out.


Ok, as an example, was that only for the Russia meetings?
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I’ve read these reports and I find myself skeptical. The stories are almost too good for the narrative that Trump is beholden to Putin, like maybe a leaker(s) with an agenda is feeding them to the reporter. I want to read some more thorough reporting before making up my mind.

Maybe someone can research Trump’s interactions with other shady leaders and compare/contrast. For instance, at the start of the presidency, we read a lot of stories that it was his habit to tear up the paper of his speeches, notes, etc. into little pieces and that archivists were having to re-assemble them for public records purposes. Not that this would excuse anything, I’m just a little leery of this storyline.
We'll know for certain if Trump starts saying that he's been open but Hillary or Obama concealed details about meetings with the Russians.
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Whut?
It's performance art, it's rather like Mornington Crescent but without the strict rules.
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This noise by Trump that FBI is some subversive anti-GOP group is bonkers.
They must be the most Republican organisation in the government.
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This noise by Trump that FBI is some subversive anti-GOP group is bonkers.
They must be the most Republican organisation in the government.
Let's consider the last few weeks of the 2016 election. Comey publicly announced that they might be reopening the investigation of Hillary, based on (as it turns out) nothing. Meanwhile, there really were ongoing investigations into Trump's Russia ties and into Russia's interfering for Trump. They didn't mention either of those.

And this is the FBI helping Hillary?
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