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Old 10th January 2019, 06:49 PM   #1
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Texas GOP vote on removing muslim from party seat

Texas Republicans will vote on Thursday over whether to remove Tarrant County Republican party vice-chair Shahid Shafi from his seat because he identifies as a Muslim-American.

Dorrie O’Brien, a precinct chair, expressed fear that Shafi would uphold Islamic law over the U.S. constitution and that he might be related “to Islamic terror groups.”

https://www.newsweek.com/texas-musli...T8z9KLKtYhGmho
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Old 10th January 2019, 06:51 PM   #2
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Uhhh... How did he get the position in the first place? Nobody do any checks of any sort?

Or is this as relevant as fighting over what should be the state fossil.
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Yeah, no bigotry in the GOP. None at all.
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All this fear-mongering over Islamic Law, good grief.
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Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
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Old 10th January 2019, 07:06 PM   #6
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Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
You mean like the moron Evangelical Christians? Can we kick all of them out too?
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Uhhh... How did he get the position in the first place? Nobody do any checks of any sort?

Or is this as relevant as fighting over what should be the state fossil.
No. It's totally relevant. Frothing-at-the-mouth bigots want him removed from his position because in the Islamophobe's Playbook, being a Muslim means you support Sharia Law.

Think "Pauline Hansen With a Drawl" and you'll get an idea of the instigators. They have not just gone after this guy, but have a target list of other party officials they want to oust because of their religious beliefs and in one case because a guy is married to a Muslim.

There's no report on the vote, yet. The meeting is behind closed doors, papered over windows and armed security guards. Meeting was set for the evening - commencing about 90 minutes ago, 6:30 pm local time. They didn't say which year, but I assume like most loser Republicans that'd be Jan 10, 1860.
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Originally Posted by BigFace42 View Post
Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
I think we differ on "all out". All out to Idaho where they can build safe white enclaves and hunker down with their bottled water and gunz. Every prominent Republican in the state stands against this little rebel faction in Tarrant County. This isn't a "Texas-wide" issue, it's the Big Losers trying to screw the party even more. The beeyotch behind the drive identifies Tarrant County as "The Most Republican in the Country". Bad news, Republicans.... the Dems carried Tarrant County. If that's the "most Republican" y'all can be prepared for a rough 2020 election night.
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Old 10th January 2019, 07:21 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by BigFace42 View Post
Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
The problem is, no one asks any elected Christian if they will uphold Biblical law over secular law in a secular nation. Nor has Shafi said or done anything to indicate that he would uphold religious law over secular law. This all comes from bigots who are victims of their own ignorance and/or stupidity and fear and not from anything Shafi has said or done.
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Old 10th January 2019, 07:25 PM   #10
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Dorrie O’Brien, a precinct chair, expressed fear that Shafi would uphold Islamic law over the U.S. constitution and that he might be related “to Islamic terror groups.”
Maybe the lot of them should be removed, given that they might be related to Christian terror groups, and have already held the country hostage.
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Uhhh... How did he get the position in the first place? Nobody do any checks of any sort?

Or is this as relevant as fighting over what should be the state fossil.
It was in the article:

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Tarrant County Republican party chairman Darl Easton told Newsweek that tomorrow’s vote is still up in the air. “It’s who shows up tomorrow,” he said. “It’s a guess. It’s not a mandatory meeting and so many people won’t show up. We only have a 25 percent quorum.” There are 270 precinct chairs in the county, each chair has one vote.

Easton, who appointed Shafi, said he’d like to see him stay in his current position and that such calls for his resignation reflect poorly on the Republican party. “I proposed a rule change to incorporate the Republican Party of Texas rules which prohibit discrimination, it did not pass,” he said.
ETA: O'Brien (the primary gasbag behind this) is no stranger to this kind of ****. Here's a Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article from 2011:

https://www.star-telegram.com/opinio...le3828982.html

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The idea of Christians and Muslims making friends or having fun together is “heresy” — “repulsive and impossible,” according to a poison-pen e-mail from Dorrie O’Brien of Grand Prairie, who fears Islamic extremism lurking beneath that platter of hummus.
She's a Tea'tard, of course.
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Old 10th January 2019, 07:36 PM   #12
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Dorie O'Brien is one of those nuts who thinks Muslims are trying to get Sharia into the US. She's a typical ignorant bigot. She's the perfect Trump base stereotype that HRC was referring to when she called some of his supporters "a basket of deplorables".

https://www.facebook.com/dorrie.obri...15805525163918
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Old 10th January 2019, 08:03 PM   #13
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You mean like the moron Evangelical Christians? Can we kick all of them out too?
Exactly. Now, what could be the difference... Hmm...
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Old 10th January 2019, 08:14 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
The problem is, no one asks any elected Christian if they will uphold Biblical law over secular law in a secular nation. Nor has Shafi said or done anything to indicate that he would uphold religious law over secular law. This all comes from bigots who are victims of their own ignorance and/or stupidity and fear and not from anything Shafi has said or done.
There of course is another problem. Being party chair isn't a government position or a public accommodation. They can be as racist as their group wants to be.
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There of course is another problem. Being party chair isn't a government position or a public accommodation. They can be as racist as their group wants to be.
What they have (they = GOP) is a debacle of their own making. The Texas Republican Party has a policy of no discrimination on religion. Tarrant County Republicans refused to adopt it. The GOP, hastily caving in at the right wing revolution of the Tea Party and the Fundies, gave powers to the local organizations that any half-wit could see would end in disaster. Everyone from Cruz to Cronyn to Abbot stands against this fringe group, but the idiots in the Tarrant County GOP are now in their third hour* of arguing about this in their second meeting on the topic. A slam-dunk-no-brainer and they're giving the floor and the podium to the bigots.

*Correction - they just finished their third hour. This is now heading into its fourth hour. Are they trying to avoid the late night news broadcasts?
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It was in the article:
Yeah, I saw. But surely the Tarrant County folks would have been active enough to notice this at the time and stage their tantrum then?

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ETA: O'Brien (the primary gasbag behind this) is no stranger to this kind of ****. Here's a Ft. Worth Star-Telegram article from 2011:

https://www.star-telegram.com/opinio...le3828982.html

She's a Tea'tard, of course.
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County party officials overwhelmingly rejected attempts to remove Shahid Shafi because he's Muslim. The 139-49 vote came after the state's top Republican officials denounced the failed move to oust the trauma surgeon.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01...i-vote-muslim/

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County party officials overwhelmingly rejected attempts to remove Shahid Shafi because he's Muslim. The 139-49 vote came after the state's top Republican officials denounced the failed move to oust the trauma surgeon.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01...i-vote-muslim/

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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
County party officials overwhelmingly rejected attempts to remove Shahid Shafi because he's Muslim. The 139-49 vote came after the state's top Republican officials denounced the failed move to oust the trauma surgeon.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01...i-vote-muslim/

Biggoted whacktards get crushed when turnout was higher than anyone expected!
Beautiful. 49 pearl-clutching morons, not enough.
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Beautiful. 49 pearl-clutching morons, not enough.
Its disturbing that 49 actually voted FOR this piece of pure bigotry... 26% - about the size of Trump's base.
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Beautiful. 49 pearl-clutching morons, not enough.
The party should've taken the opportunity to also adopt the State GOP standards by motion. They have a quorum that is so low (25) that they had the numbers to do so.

Both the GOP Senate candidate and the House member lost Tarrant County in 2018. The reactionary bigot wing wants them to lose even more?
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Its disturbing that 49 actually voted FOR this piece of pure bigotry... 26% - about the size of Trump's base.
Well, this is precinct captains and there are something like five hundred of them. That's probably the complete Actively Bigoted sub-set. They've been rallying them to turn out for weeks. The casually non-bigoted group knew all along that they had an overwhelming majority to defeat them, I reckon. I doubt the number is as high as 26%. I'd be willing to bet that a straw poll of the nearly two hundred precinct captains would actually show Republican Loyalist support for Trump... 80/90%.
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Well, they are the party of Steve King. The guy who just asked "how did the term 'white supremacy' become offensive".

But don't you dare call them racists. You might hurt their fee-fees.
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Well, they are the party of Steve King. The guy who just asked "what is wrong with white supremacy?".
And who better not have even 128th of non-white blood in him, eh!
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Caught me before the edit there, eh.

This innernetz thing moves way to fast for me. Dangit.
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Did we just turn Canadian, eh?
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Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
It's about as valid as asking a Roman Catholic if their first allegiance is to the Pope or to America.

Then insisting on the removal of said Catholic anyways because the Pope probably told you to lie.
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Its disturbing that 49 actually voted FOR this piece of pure bigotry... 26% - about the size of Trump's base.
Indeed. Maybe they should be removed, instead. They sure showed their colours.
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It's about as valid as asking a Roman Catholic if their first allegiance is to the Pope or to America.

Then insisting on the removal of said Catholic anyways because the Pope probably told you to lie.

There were people concerned that if JFK became President, the Pope would be controlling the United States.
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(CNN) - A bid to remove a Texas county GOP leader from his post because he is Muslim has been rejected.

The Tarrant County Republican Party voted on Thursday to keep Dr. Shahid Shafi in his post as vice chairman, according to the Star-Telegram.

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/us/go...afi/index.html
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As is typical of the internet the title of this thread and the OP is a bit misleading. Its should read, "In a move condemned by prominent members of the Texas GOP to republics have moved to remove a local chair from his position because he's a muslim."

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A number of prominent Texas Republicans have spoken out in support of Shafi, including Gov. Greg Abbott. “Religious freedom is at the core of who we are as a nation and state, and attacks on Dr. Shafi because of his faith are contrary to this guiding principle,” he wrote in a statement
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Texas Republican officials like Senator Ted Cruz, Land Commissioner George P. Bush and former House Speaker Joe Straus have publicly supported Shafi and condemned efforts to remove him because of his religious views.
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(CNN) - A bid to remove a Texas county GOP leader from his post because he is Muslim has been rejected.

The Tarrant County Republican Party voted on Thursday to keep Dr. Shahid Shafi in his post as vice chairman, according to the Star-Telegram.

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/us/go...afi/index.html


I'm glad he won, but now I'm torn: would it be better for him to stay in that job, in hopes of being a force for re-normalizing the dysfunctional GOP, or would it be better for him to quite publicly resign in protest that such a blatantly racist event was ever allowed to happen by the GOP?
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Isn't it a valid question - will you uphold religious law over secular law in a secular nation?

I think Texas should really go all out on this one.
Yup, all the way to the rapture...
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It's about as valid as asking a Roman Catholic if their first allegiance is to the Pope or to America.
Or more commonly nowdays (though it's hardly new), accusing Jews of dual loyalty.
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You mean like the moron Evangelical Christians? Can we kick all of them out too?
Do evangelicals really follow the bibles teaching in the first place, or do they just pick and choose phrases that support their pre-existing right wing agenda?
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I'm glad he won, but now I'm torn: would it be better for him to stay in that job, in hopes of being a force for re-normalizing the dysfunctional GOP, or would it be better for him to quite publicly resign in protest that such a blatantly racist event was ever allowed to happen by the GOP?
You always choose a functional victory over a symbolic moral victory.

A moral victory is just a loss with pretensions.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
You always choose a functional victory over a symbolic moral victory.

A moral victory is just a loss with pretensions.
Not if it inspires further victories. Symbols do possess great utility.
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It's good the motion was defeated but still appalling that it was put on the agenda in the first place. If the Tarrant County GOP want some brownie points adopt the anti-discrimination policy and see about booting out the jackass who raised this in the first place.
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Originally Posted by lomiller View Post
Do evangelicals really follow the bibles teaching in the first place, or do they just pick and choose phrases that support their pre-existing right wing agenda?
Some Evangelical denominations were founded specifically to use apocryphal sources to rewrite the Bible to fit their agenda.
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
As is typical of the internet the title of this thread and the OP is a bit misleading. Its should read, "In a move tepidly condemned by some prominent members of the Texas GOP but supported by others to republics have moved to remove a local chair from his position because he's a muslim."
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Edited by jsfisher:  Quote edited to make it clear which parts were added to "FTFY".

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