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Old 16th May 2020, 05:35 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
The trouble is that Trump lies so often that anything that comes out of his mouth is suspect.

Lie, lie, lie, lie, truth, lie, lie, lie, lie, truth, lie lie......

Get the connection?
Too many truths in there.
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Old 16th May 2020, 06:25 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
I did not know that it wasn't Kool Aid at Jonestown. Kool-aid Acid Test I am very familiar with.

The Atlantic 2012: Stop Saying 'Drink the Kool-Aid' - Beyond being grossly overused and conjuring a horrendous massacre, it's not even technically accurate.

Most of the article revisits what happened at Jonestown. Electric Kool-aid is only mentioned at the end.
I'm not surprised to find the reference to drinking the Kool Aid preceded Jonestown by several years. I vaguely recall drinking the Kool-aid was about LSD. I think the Jonestown explanation replaced that in my brain.
And yet a friend of mine and I threw a tropical theme Jim Jones Party in college complete with Kool aid and pure grain alcohol and squirt guns that looked like real automatic weapons.
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Old 16th May 2020, 06:34 PM   #83
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We use Kool Aid because who the hell as ever heard of Flavor Aid?
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Old 16th May 2020, 06:48 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
As for the thread’s topic, I posit that technically, he isn’t lying at all.

Lying requires someone knowing the truth and then attempting to deceive others by describing something other than the truth. Pres. Trump doesn’t care what the truth is. That makes him a BSer.
And the difference is?

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He just slings the bull as he sees fit.
Sometimes he exaggerates what he thinks is the truth, but other times he knows it's a total lie and deliberately says it to deceive.

For example, Trump refuses to release his tax returns because it would prove he was lying about his net worth - a lie he created to deceive people into believing he would be a fit president. Technically it is lying if you 'care' for the truth and know it would hurt you if it came out.
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Old 16th May 2020, 07:30 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
We use Kool Aid because who the hell as ever heard of Flavor Aid?
As a kid, I enjoyed Funny Face. Not to kill myself, mind you.
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Old 16th May 2020, 07:56 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
We use Kool Aid because who the hell as ever heard of Flavor Aid?
You can still use Kool-aid. Just remember it's about drinking acid (LSD) laced Kool-aid and not cyanide laced Kool-aid which if you think about it makes a lot more sense anyway.

You don't drink the Kool-aid to die, you drink it to alter your reality. Or your reality is altered because you drank it.
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Because feeding poor people is socialism.

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Old 16th May 2020, 11:13 PM   #87
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You can still use Kool-aid. Just remember it's about drinking acid (LSD) laced Kool-aid and not cyanide laced Kool-aid which if you think about it makes a lot more sense anyway.

You don't drink the Kool-aid to die, you drink it to alter your reality. Or your reality is altered because you drank it.
Good point. Trumpers definitely live in an altered reality if they think Trump is anything more than a narcissistic, pathological liar who thinks of nothing but himself.
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Old 17th May 2020, 12:22 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
My fear is that the truth of the matter is much worse than a video with hookers. After all, President Trump could discount any video by saying “hookers? Really? Who is going to believe someone as handsome, charming, and sophisticated as myself would ever pay for it.” And his followers would lap it up.

I fear that Putin simply told him. After you leave office I am going to give you 3 square miles in downtown Moscow and I’m going to rename that area “Donald Trump City.” This POTUS is so easily played, so vain, and so greedy that blackmail isn’t necessary.
OK - Putin has documentation of money laundering then.
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Old 17th May 2020, 01:01 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by fishbob View Post
OK - Putin has documentation of money laundering then.
The pee tape, if it exists, is something I suspect most of Trump's supporters would cheer - they'd happily pay prostitutes to pee on a bed Barack Obama slept in whilst they watched too, if they had the opportunity. Whatever Putin has on him it must surely be more than that.

As well as the evidence of money laundering for the Russian mafia, it's also been claimed Putin bought Trump's debts from the Deutsche Bank. If that's true Trump owes a lot of money to Putin personally.
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Old 17th May 2020, 02:13 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Yep. It's all right there in my post. The actual question is when you decide to believe him vs when you decide to say he's lying.

You use something called “facts”.
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Old 17th May 2020, 02:16 AM   #91
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
He gets called out all the time now, he simply hand waves it off. That probably happened to some extent in his past. I think his Baron persona was exposed and he laughed it off or something. His wives probably called him on lies all the time. He divorced 2 of them.

Bottom line, he's been called out. His mind erases such insults to the greatest person to ever live.

Given his history of actual physical assault against at least one wife I doubt his wives ever call him out.
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Old 17th May 2020, 04:25 AM   #92
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
As a kid, I enjoyed Funny Face. Not to kill myself, mind you.
That give me an idea for the "Trump's nickname" thread...
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Old 17th May 2020, 12:42 PM   #93
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He lies to troll libs or anyone, really, that he's annoyed with at the moment. That's why calling him out on his lies is a double-edged sword. There's always the risk that it simply amplifies the lie, or that the issue becomes about the controversy generated and not the truth of what he said in the first place.

There must be techniques to counter this dynamic but I don't know what they are. Maybe just patient, dogged attention to bringing the facts to light in a neutral, non-threatening way. Which may not be a fiery enough response for some people. What's the saying, aim to generate light, not heat?
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Old 17th May 2020, 05:22 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Remember how kids will claim the most outrageous things to impress their peers?

Trump is a kid on a playground desperate to be respected by everyone, especially the Rich Kids, the Cool Kids, the Smart Kids and, of course, the Girls.
And since he isn't very good at anything, he blows himself up like a pufferfish to look more impressive.
This. I gave a very similar answer to the same question on Quora a while ago.
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