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Old 15th May 2020, 04:47 AM   #81
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Another day, another lie, in fact, he isn't even trying to hide it now. You can just see the gears in his head turning while he goes through the process of create the right lie that suits him.


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And I spoke with Angela Merkel today. I spoke with Prime Minister Abe of Japan. I spoke with many of the leaders over the last four or five days. And so many of them, almost all of them — I would say all of them; not everybody would want to admit it — but they all view us as the world leader, and they’re following us.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...bers-congress/
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Old 15th May 2020, 06:18 AM   #82
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Hmm, in no particular order besides the order they occur to me:

Obama's birth certificate is fake
Vaccines cause autism
Joe Scarborough probably murdered someone
Ted Cruz's father was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald
Alex Jones is an amazing reporter
Obama wiretapped Trump Tower
Promise to eliminate the national debt in 8 years (instead he's added trillions more to it)
Promise of 4, 5 or 6% economic growth
We're doing a great job on the coronavirus
I won the popular vote


ETA: almost forgot: I'm a very stable genius.
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Old 15th May 2020, 07:31 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Another day, another lie, in fact, he isn't even trying to hide it now. You can just see the gears in his head turning while he goes through the process of create the right lie that suits him.

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And I spoke with Angela Merkel today. I spoke with Prime Minister Abe of Japan. I spoke with many of the leaders over the last four or five days. And so many of them, almost all of them — I would say all of them; not everybody would want to admit it — but they all view us as the world leader, and they’re following us on Twitter.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...bers-congress/

Fixed that for him.
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Old 15th May 2020, 08:18 AM   #84
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And I spoke with Angela Merkel today. I spoke with Prime Minister Abe of Japan. I spoke with many of the leaders over the last four or five days. And so many of them, almost all of them — I would say all of them; not everybody would want to admit it — but they all view us as the world leader, and they’re following us.
Here is a perfect example of where The PDJT starts with an indistinct number and then escalates it, three times in one sentence!
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Old 15th May 2020, 08:23 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
Here is a perfect example of where The PDJT starts with an indistinct number and then escalates it, three times in one sentence!
Indeed. It should be preserved as an example par excellance of this mode of lie construction of his.
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Old 15th May 2020, 11:24 AM   #86
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And I spoke with Angela Merkel today. I spoke with Prime Minister Abe of Japan. I spoke with many of the leaders over the last four or five days. And so many of them, almost all of them — I would say all of them; not everybody would want to admit it — but they all view us as the world leader, and they’re following us.
I forgot to highlight the last one, where the definitive statement is now set in stone.
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Old 15th May 2020, 06:40 PM   #87
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Except, Trump went to High School and College. Although no one can see the records. I consider it a lie when you don't know something and just make it up. But my guess is the only one who has ever referred to Trump as a genius is Trump himself.
You're selling his sycophants short.
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Did any of his weddings to date include vows of fidelity?
That doesn't count because he doesn't know what the word means. He thinks it's what comes after 'high'.
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Did sir-drinks-a-lot take his toys and stomp off home?
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Did sir-drinks-a-lot take his toys and stomp off home?
He was hoping for liberal tears to drink again.
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Maybe he thought that no one could name 10 lies...
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Old 16th May 2020, 02:33 PM   #92
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Did sir-drinks-a-lot take his toys and stomp off home?
He got his trolls in about formatting, ranking, listing too few or too many, etc. His job is done.
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Obviously, I did want to see what sort of responses I got otherwise I wouldn't have started the thread. I didn't expect much, even with all of the qualifications I gave but was pleasantly surprised by a few posters. d4m10n did a great job, Ladewig had a good showing despite only listing five (so far), dmaker had a decent list although he didn't follow instructions. There were a few others.

I'd say that most of you all the sudden got curiously quiet on a topic that you spend most of the day about. One poster posted a list of imaginary responses to another poster's list. And a lot of you were terrified of "gotchas".

Overall, I'd say it was a pretty good showing. 6/10.
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Old 16th May 2020, 02:58 PM   #94
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Obviously, I did want to see what sort of responses I got otherwise I wouldn't have started the thread. I didn't expect much, even with all of the qualifications I gave but was pleasantly surprised by a few posters. d4m10n did a great job, Ladewig had a good showing despite only listing five (so far), dmaker had a decent list although he didn't follow instructions. There were a few others.

I'd say that most of you all the sudden got curiously quiet on a topic that you spend most of the day about. One poster posted a list of imaginary responses to another poster's list. And a lot of you were terrified of "gotchas".

Overall, I'd say it was a pretty good showing. 6/10.
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He got his trolls in about formatting, ranking, listing too few or too many, etc. His job is done.
Given the following post, it appears you are eligible for the million-dollar challenge!
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Jesus. There's no game. Sure, I think most of you are idiots, but you should be able to rattle something off. Especially since that's all you've been going on about for the past four years. Who cares about 16K+ demonstrable fibs (which is BS anyways), give me ten juicy full-on lies.
Adorable.
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Jesus. There's no game. Sure, I think most of you are idiots, but you should be able to rattle something off. Especially since that's all you've been going on about for the past four years. Who cares about 16K+ demonstrable fibs (which is BS anyways), give me ten juicy full-on lies.
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Adorable.
It seems to me that Sir D a Lot received far more than ten juicy full-on lies. But 'we're' the idiots. The cognitive dissonance must be causing his brain to explode.
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What amazes me about this thread is that the OP apparently genuinely thought that finding ten juicy full on Trump lies would be a challenge. The only challenge is choosing the ten most egregious from amongst the thousands of examples.
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What amazes me about this thread is that the OP apparently genuinely thought that finding ten juicy full on Trump lies would be a challenge. The only challenge is choosing the ten most egregious from amongst the thousands of examples.
...from the last week.
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Obviously, I did want to see what sort of responses I got otherwise I wouldn't have started the thread. I didn't expect much, even with all of the qualifications I gave but was pleasantly surprised by a few posters. d4m10n did a great job, Ladewig had a good showing despite only listing five (so far), dmaker had a decent list although he didn't follow instructions. There were a few others.

I'd say that most of you all the sudden got curiously quiet on a topic that you spend most of the day about. One poster posted a list of imaginary responses to another poster's list. And a lot of you were terrified of "gotchas".

Overall, I'd say it was a pretty good showing. 6/10.
Which is the exact definition of trolling.
Other people start threads because they're interested in discussing a topic.
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“We don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion. Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there."
I chose this one for the IRONY.
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Trump still says China is paying for tarrifs.
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This thread could rival the Amanda Knox thread for posts.
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I think a lot of Trump’s “lies” are due to sloppy, motivated thinking combined with a careless choice of words.

Two examples:

“I won the women’s vote by 52%”. That’s categorically false. Perhaps he saw that 52% of white women voted for him, and conveniently “forgot” the qualifier. In fact, he lost the overall women’s vote. What cements this as a lie to me is that he gets corrected, but then continues to repeatedly promote the same false statement.

“The crime rate is higher than its been in 40 years. The press won’t tell you that.” Not an exact quote, but very close. Also categorically false - the crime rate was then at near historic lows. Again, he had seen or heard that a recent increase in the crime rate was the highest in 40 years. I think his mind is muddled and confused enough that he may not appreciate the difference between the crime rate and the increase in crime rate. Again, it becomes a certifiable lie when he continues to repeat it when he has the opportunity to correct himself.

I think he’s just not very smart, and is willing to say whatever makes him look good, true or not.
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I think a lot of Trump’s “lies” are due to sloppy, motivated thinking combined with a careless choice of words.

Two examples:

“I won the women’s vote by 52%”. That’s categorically false. Perhaps he saw that 52% of white women voted for him, and conveniently “forgot” the qualifier. In fact, he lost the overall women’s vote. What cements this as a lie to me is that he gets corrected, but then continues to repeatedly promote the same false statement.

“The crime rate is higher than its been in 40 years. The press won’t tell you that.” Not an exact quote, but very close. Also categorically false - the crime rate was then at near historic lows. Again, he had seen or heard that a recent increase in the crime rate was the highest in 40 years. I think his mind is muddled and confused enough that he may not appreciate the difference between the crime rate and the increase in crime rate. Again, it becomes a certifiable lie when he continues to repeat it when he has the opportunity to correct himself.

I think he’s just not very smart, and is willing to say whatever makes him look good, true or not.
Winning the women's vote by 52% was absolutely true by his standards. Non-white people of either sex have no business voting. Millions of illegal votes by them!
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
I think a lot of Trump’s “lies” are due to sloppy, motivated thinking combined with a careless choice of words.
Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Winning the women's vote by 52% was absolutely true by his standards. Non-white people of either sex have no business voting. Millions of illegal votes by them!
This calls the question of whether Trump's "lies" are untruths spoken knowingly with intent to deceive, or whether he's such an inveterate ********ter that he doesn't really have a working model of the real world so as to differentiate true statements from false ones.

ETA: Not sure which possibility I find more frightening, but probably the latter.
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This calls the question of whether Trump's "lies" are untruths spoken knowingly with intent to deceive, or whether he's such an inveterate ********ter that he doesn't really have a working model of the real world so as to differentiate true statements from false ones.
Nobody serving as President of the United States gets to claim ignorance on this scale.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
I think a lot of Trump’s “lies” are due to sloppy, motivated thinking combined with a careless choice of words.

Two examples:

”I won the women’s vote by 52%”. That’s categorically false. Perhaps he saw that 52% of white women voted for him, and conveniently “forgot” the qualifier. In fact, he lost the overall women’s vote. What cements this as a lie to me is that he gets corrected, but then continues to repeatedly promote the same false statement.

“The crime rate is higher than its been in 40 years. The press won’t tell you that.” Not an exact quote, but very close. Also categorically false - the crime rate was then at near historic lows. Again, he had seen or heard that a recent increase in the crime rate was the highest in 40 years. I think his mind is muddled and confused enough that he may not appreciate the difference between the crime rate and the increase in crime rate. Again, it becomes a certifiable lie when he continues to repeat it when he has the opportunity to correct himself.

I think he’s just not very smart, and is willing to say whatever makes him look good, true or not.
I was just about to make a post about this type of lie.
When he gets caught in real-time in this type of lie, he often shrugs it off by saying “someone told me that.” That, of course, is an appropriate response for an 11-year-old, but not for POTUS. I used to scream at the TV when reporters never followed up on their question about a statistic’s veracity with a question like, “why are you hiring people who make such careless errors? Especially when you brag about your management skills, which were a key plank in your political platform.” Or, “don’t you have fact-checkers working in this administration?”

And I’d love to see a question at the next press conference like “have you fired the person who made you look bad by giving you obviously-incorrect information?” Although I’ll confess that is an obviously-biased question.

But I agree with your conclusion: repeating incorrect information in that manner is a lie.
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That, of course, is an appropriate response for an 11-year-old, but not for POTUS.
On one of CNN's incessant promos, Anderson Cooper says "With all due respect sir, that's the argument of a 5-year-old".

To which Trump responds in a nasally, whiny voice, "I didn't start it."

That one exchange manages to encapsulate SO much!
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
On one of CNN's incessant promos, Anderson Cooper says "With all due respect sir, that's the argument of a 5-year-old".

To which Trump responds in a nasally, whiny voice, "I didn't start it."

That one exchange manages to encapsulate SO much!
And that was before the nomination.
Anyone claiming that they didn’t know what they were getting into by voting for Trump in the primaries doesn’t have much of an argument.
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I think he’s just not very smart, and is willing to say whatever makes him look good, true or not.
This just in: water is wet.
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The juiciest lies are both obvious and significant. Such as:
Q: Have you ever met Vladimir Putin?
A: Yes.
Q: You have?
A: Yes a long time ago. We got along great.

And this, a few weeks prior :
I have no relationship to -- with him [Putin]. I have no relationship with him.
...
I have no relationship with him. I don't -- I've never met him. … I have no relationship with Putin. I don't think I've ever met him. I never met him.
...
I have never spoken to him on the phone, no.
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Old 17th May 2020, 09:43 PM   #114
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Those debates. So his supporters were thinking they just want an ordinary everyman. They appear to be happy with their choice.
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Those debates. So his supporters were thinking they just want an ordinary everyman. They appear to be happy with their choice.
Trump is an "ordinary everyman" like Queen Elizabeth is just an ordinary haus frau.

Apologies to Liz.
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Those debates. So his supporters were thinking they just want an ordinary everyman. They appear to be happy with their choice.
You might have met someone who is something like Trump at a bar, a sporting event, or a large party (perhaps even a family gathering).

He is that loudmouth who claims that he knows exactly how to fix everything that is wrong with America. His childishly simplistic plans ignore the complexities and interrelated nature of 21st century problems. He never listens to your point, he is merely waiting until he can talk some more. He replaces citations with repetition and replaces logical reasoning with volume.

No matter where you met him you would never want him near the White House.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
You might have met someone who is something like Trump at a bar, a sporting event, or a large party (perhaps even a family gathering).

He is that loudmouth who claims that he knows exactly how to fix everything that is wrong with America. His childishly simplistic plans ignore the complexities and interrelated nature of 21st century problems. He never listens to your point, he is merely waiting until he can talk some more. He replaces citations with repetition and replaces logical reasoning with volume.

No matter where you met him you would never want him near the White House.
You give him too much credit - it is rare that he ever waits for anyone to finish before talking over them.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
You might have met someone who is something like Trump at a bar, a sporting event, or a large party (perhaps even a family gathering).

He is that loudmouth who claims that he knows exactly how to fix everything that is wrong with America. His childishly simplistic plans ignore the complexities and interrelated nature of 21st century problems. He never listens to your point, he is merely waiting until he can talk some more. He replaces citations with repetition and replaces logical reasoning with volume.

No matter where you met him you would never want him near the White House.
Yet he's at that bbq surrounded by people who love it.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
You might have met someone who is something like Trump at a bar, a sporting event, or a large party (perhaps even a family gathering).

He is that loudmouth who claims that he knows exactly how to fix everything that is wrong with America. His childishly simplistic plans ignore the complexities and interrelated nature of 21st century problems. He never listens to your point, he is merely waiting until he can talk some more. He replaces citations with repetition and replaces logical reasoning with volume.

No matter where you met him you would never want him near the White House.
He's my younger brother. At exactly the sort of family gathering you mention, he was going on and on about climate change being a hoax, pontificating that "carbon monoxide" wasn't a factor, since it was necessary for plants to survive, they breathe it in and we get oxygen, etc., etc. My wife was standing behind me with one warning hand firmly on my shoulder throughout; thankfully, it wasn't our gathering, so we could leave when we (that is to say, I) got ready. Which was not long in coming. He was also prone to lambasting ObamaCare as commie soshalism, which was pretty rich, considering he'd had three or four live-saving heart procedures without benefit of any insurance to pay for them.
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Yet he's at that bbq surrounded by people who love it.
That's because they love his behavior. He triggers the bleeding heart libtards and they love his right wing policies. And so many of them are just dumb.
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