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Old 14th August 2019, 02:43 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
Apparently Empire is filming at the location of Smollett's faked attack. Curious what they'll do with that.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/8/...mollett-attack
It's where they're going to kill off his character by using a body double.
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writing him off by the character committing a hoax would be lollerz.
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Old 23rd August 2019, 04:58 PM   #83
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The special prosecutor has been identified as Dan Webb.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p2e-story.html
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Old 28th August 2019, 08:15 PM   #84
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PR firm: ‘Every iota’ of Smollett claim true; police differ

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CHICAGO — Jussie Smollett’s PR team says “every iota” of his account of being the victim of a racist, anti-gay attack in Chicago is supported by police evidence despite police repeatedly saying it was all staged.

A statement emailed Wednesday follows a city filing Monday defending its lawsuit seeking to recoup costs of investigating what it says was a January publicity stunt.

The statement says “every iota of information … Smollett has stated has been fully corroborated.”
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Old 29th August 2019, 01:12 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post

Yes! I frickin' LOVE this thread! It just keeps on giving! Woohoo!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Unreal.
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This is not the full routine but it's a good bit.
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Jussie Smollett lawyers: Even if actor faked attack, it was cops’ call to investigate it so vigorously

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The ex-”Empire’’ actor’s latest court filing, while not admitting he staged the incident, pins the decision to spend so much time and resources investigating squarely on law enforcement.

Chicago Sun Times reporter Michael Sneed learned exclusively that late Tuesday night, his attorneys filed a motion responding to the city’s claim that he should pay the city more than $130,000 to cover police overtime and other costs. The city says the costs were incurred in connection with an investigation into a report he filed claiming he was the victim of a racist and homophobic attack in River North...

...the latest court filing contends even if Smollett did make a false report, there is no way the city can assert he would have known the city would investigate — and investigate it to the extent cops did.

“We contend the city is wrong,” William J. Quinlan, of The Quinlan Law Firm, said of the city’s assertion that Smollett should have known the police would log nearly 2,000 hours in overtime trying to resolve the case. “ ... The mere fact somebody filed a police report doesn’t presume the investigation will be done and certainly not to the extent of what the city is claiming.”

He added: “Smollett has no control over that.”

In the legal brief, obtained by Sneed, Smollett makes clear that he “disputes any and all assertions that he made a false statement and was not a victim of a crime.”

But even if he did, “The filing of a police report, in and of itself, does not necessitate a sprawling investigation nor does it, as a practical matter, usually result in an investigation as extensive as the one the CPD chose to undertake in this case,” the motion says.

It goes on to say the city “has failed to allege that Mr. Smollett was similarly ‘well aware’ that his statements to police would result in 1,836 hours of police overtime, or any other reasons why he should have known this would have been the case.”...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...ophobic-attack
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Jussie Smollett lawyers: Even if actor faked attack, it was cops’ call to investigate it so vigorously







https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...ophobic-attack
I'm actually sympathetic to this line of defense.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I'm actually sympathetic to this line of defense.
Smollett could have stopped the investigation and expenditure of taxpayer money at any time simply by confessing.

His narcissism is costing him lots of money. He lost his job. He's paying lawyers and a public relations group and he may be forced to pay what the city is now asking for.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Smollett could have stopped the investigation and expenditure of taxpayer money at any time simply by confessing.



His narcissism is costing him lots of money. He lost his job. He's paying lawyers and a public relations group and he may be forced to pay what the city is now asking for.
I agree. I don't think it's necessarily a winning argument, but I do think it's a valid point to raise, and for the courts to consider.

On the other hand, "the cops weren't supposed to take hate crimes so seriously!" is probably not a good narrative for him.
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We read about a few recreational drugs that he uses. It seems possible that, depending on his level of usage, that he could (for the hoax and now ongoing) experience drug-induced psychosis. The modern skunk weed (very high THC level) can bring psychosis with regular usage. In that state a person can make horrible and permanently damaging decisions which seem to be the right thing to do at the time. The stress of being caught may have caused him to ramp up his usage.

His lawyers and the PR guys might prefer to take his money down to the last penny rather than advise him to stop this runaway train. It's difficult for me to imagine that those people actually think that he is innocent.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I'm actually sympathetic to this line of defense.
And if they hadn't put extra effort into the investigation, Smollett and his allies would have accused them of not taking this horrific hate crime seriously enough because of racism and/or homophobia.
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I'm not very sympathetic to that line of defense.

To me it's not much different than someone who drinks and drives - they have no way to know how severe the cost might be, but they still did it. Just because one night is more dangerous than another for drinking and driving doesn't make the driver less responsible, imo.

Besides, we all know he's lying and this is just to try to minimize costs. It's his only reasonable shot at doing so.

I also concur with the sentiment that if he was a victim that people would be a lot more upset if the police didn't take it seriously enough. Well, how serious did he want them to take it when he kept insisting what happened is true and never backed out?
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“Smollett has no control over that.”
"I had no control over the fact that California decided to spend $3 billion fighting wild fires."

"You set the fires!"

"Still, they're the ones that decided to spend the money."

Smollett is a douche who deserves to do time and foot the bill.
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And if they hadn't put extra effort into the investigation, Smollett and his allies would have accused them of not taking this horrific hate crime seriously enough because of racism and/or homophobia.
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I also concur with the sentiment that if he was a victim that people would be a lot more upset if the police didn't take it seriously enough. Well, how serious did he want them to take it when he kept insisting what happened is true and never backed out?
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Smollett is a douche who deserves to do time and foot the bill.

My sympathies are with the above comments, except the "do time" bit, as he has already screwed up any potential future acting career he may have had and is already doing time, and will do so for the rest of his life.


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Dave Chappelle really picked up on a couple of points we made in this thread.

"It was 2AM... -12 degrees ... walking... where were you going?"

"Subway"

"SAMMWHICHES???!??!"

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Also,

"Can you identify the attackers?"

"They were wearing Maga hats."

"MAGA HATS?!?!?! Go find Kanye, see where he was"

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My sympathies are with the above comments, except the "do time" bit, as he has already screwed up any potential future acting career he may have had and is already doing time, and will do so for the rest of his life.
The obnoxious narcissism and self serving arrogance displayed after the hoax just pushes the whole thing over the top. His insistence on being acknowledged as a hero is really tough to take.
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My sympathies are with the above comments, except the "do time" bit, as he has already screwed up any potential future acting career he may have had and is already doing time, and will do so for the rest of his life.
False crime reports are some of the worst crimes and should be punished as a deterrent. If the police had picked up a couple of people who they got to confess to the crime, as interrogation techniques are designed to do, do you think Smollett would have stepped up to clear them, or do you think he would have let them go through the process?

The issue here isn't that Smollett should dodge jail because no one was harmed by his lies. The issue is that by sheer luck, and decent police work, innocent people dodged a life ruining encounter with the law. Smollett, and his type, need to be made aware of that.
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Ideally, the CPD should have arranged a reverse hoax on Smollett.

They should have claimed to have arrested a young African American, who had just started a job, and had three children, and was working his way through college, and seen if they could force JUSSIE SMOLLETT to confess.

I'd bet Smollett would not confess.
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Ideally, the CPD should have arranged a reverse hoax on Smollett.

They should have claimed to have arrested a young African American, who had just started a job, and had three children, and was working his way through college, and seen if they could force JUSSIE SMOLLETT to confess.

I'd bet Smollett would not confess.
A similar twist, although I doubt legal, could have been to dress a couple white cops as Smollette described his attackers, put them in a line up and see if he'd identify them as the culprits. Would he be willing to go ahead with it, and potentially send two innocent men to trial and even jail, just to put a cherry on the ruse? Given how far he's gone so far, I'd guess, yes.
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Dave Chappelle takes some digs at Jussie in his recent Netflix special. It's pretty funny:
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Hmm... embedding didn't seem to work for me. Also try this:
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Dave Chappelle takes some digs at Jussie in his recent Netflix special. It's pretty funny:
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Hmm... embedding didn't seem to work for me. Also try this:
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Thanks for this! I just tried the second link. It is funny!!!
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Smollett is counter suing. His accomplices are part of the group he is suing. Words fail me.



https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...rclaim-chicago
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Smollett is counter suing. His accomplices are part of the group he is suing. Words fail me.



https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/20...rclaim-chicago
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IMO, the big irony is that his behavior resembles that of Donald Trump.
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IMO, the big irony is that his behavior resembles that of Donald Trump.
Smollett did say he was in MAGA Country.
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Wow. Completely wrong thread. Sorry guys.
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Seems like Sondland decided to not take the fall for Trump.
Wrong thread.
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Wrong thread.
I was trying to figure out which of the accomplices was Sondland, but I suspect you are right.
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You putting it past the Juss man to limit defendants to not include Sondland?
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You putting it past the Juss man to limit defendants to not include Sondland?
**drops head in shame**

You do have a good point there.
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I think Belz read William Parcher's post and thought we were getting the all clear to shift this thread over to Trump.
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I was trying to figure out which of the accomplices was Sondland, but I suspect you are right.
For some reason I thought "Horrifying attack" was "house impeachment", which I guess is understandable.
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For some reason I thought "Horrifying attack" was "house impeachment", which I guess is understandable.
Worst parody thread title. Ever.
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I'm glad Jussie is still around, I was wondering about him a few days ago.

This thread is like a broken jukebox that keeps pumping out free songs for a single dime. Or quarter. Best bang for your buck right here. In fact I may even read this all again!

Hey, Ron Tomkins, let's team up and make a movie about this! You can play Jussie
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Old 8th January 2020, 01:55 PM   #118
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Smollett news...

He is not returning to the final season of Empire.

A Cook County (Chicago) judge has ordered Google to turn over a year of emails, photos, location data and private messages for Smollett.
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Old 8th January 2020, 08:59 PM   #119
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Originally Posted by CWB
...Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx has hired high-priced private attorneys to represent herself and her office as former U.S. Attorney Dan Webb leads a court-ordered investigation of Smollett’s purported hate crime case and the way Foxx’s office handled the matter.

Foxx hired the former chief federal judge in Chicago, Ruben Castillo, to handle the Webb inquiry for her office. Despite claiming to be the most transparent prosecutor in Cook County history, Foxx’s office refused to reveal how much the taxpayers are paying Castillo for his services. The Chicago Tribune reported on Wednesday that Castillo is billing the county $250 to $375 per hour for his work on the matter. Castillo called those rates “deeply discounted,” the Tribune said.

Meanwhile, Foxx has personally hired high-priced Washington DC-based attorney Michael Bromwich to represent her individual interests in the Webb probe. A Foxx spokesperson told the Tribune that neither the taxpayers nor Foxx’s campaign is paying Bromwich’s bills. Notably, the spokesperson did not say who is paying.

A Cook County judge on Dec. 6 signed a search warrant that requires Google to give Webb’s investigators a full year of data from Smollett’s personal accounts. Among the materials mentioned explicitly as being subject to the warrant are texts, emails, photographs, Google Drive contents, web browsing history, detailed records of where Smollett traveled with his phone, and more.

A separate warrant seeks identical information from Frank Gatson, a choreographer and friend of Smollett who made the 911 call that summoned police to Gatson’s Streeterville apartment where Smollett sought help minutes after the purported hate crime...
Gatson is Condo Guy.

https://cwbchicago.com/2020/01/jussi...h-warrant.html
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Yes, not looking god for Smollett and his manager.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...jsq-story.html

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A Cook County judge has ordered Google to turn over Jussie Smollett’s emails, photos, location data and private messages for an entire year as part of the special prosecutor’s investigation into the purported attack on the actor.

Two sweeping search warrants, obtained by the Chicago Tribune, provide the first public glimpse at the direction of the probe by special prosecutor Dan Webb more than four months into the investigation.

The warrants, filed last month in Circuit Court, sought a trove of documentation from Smollett and his manager’s Google accounts — not just emails but also drafted and deleted messages; any files in their Google Drive cloud storage services; any Google Voice texts, calls and contacts; search and web browsing history; and location data.

Investigators sought a full year’s data — from November 2018 to November 2019 — even though the key events in the controversy took place between late January and late March 2019. Authorities could be looking for any incriminating remarks from Smollett or his manager, especially in the months after State’s Attorney Kim Foxx’s office abruptly dismissed disorderly conduct charges against the then-"Empire" actor just weeks after his indictment.
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