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Old 17th May 2019, 04:58 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
Meh,
Drinking studies muddied the waters around the safety of alcohol use
Study coauthor Emmanuela Gakidou, an expert in health metrics, acknowledges that the risks for light to moderate drinkers are small. In a given year, 914 per 100,000 people who drink no alcohol will die from one of the health conditions examined in the study. If all those people had one drink per day in that year, an extra four, for a total of 918, would die.
The give-away-take-away: 4 deaths per 100,000 vs how many new lives conceived by drunken parents?
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:00 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
Meh,
Drinking studies muddied the waters around the safety of alcohol use
Study coauthor Emmanuela Gakidou, an expert in health metrics, acknowledges that the risks for light to moderate drinkers are small. In a given year, 914 per 100,000 people who drink no alcohol will die from one of the health conditions examined in the study. If all those people had one drink per day in that year, an extra four, for a total of 918, would die.
But one drink/day is not the beneficial amount, 3-4 is. U shaped curve remember.
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Old 17th May 2019, 07:59 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by Orphia Nay View Post
We've moved on from the OP long ago.

Instead of "the supposedly beneficial ingredient", I meant, "a supposedly beneficial ingredient"

And it's already been shown that the risk of cancer outweighs the benefits you've listed.

Your daily recommendations have been superceded by many new studies/metastudies over the past few years.

And it would be important to know the percentage of alcohol in the 12 ounces of beer mentioned. It varies a lot:

Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
A drink is defined as:
12 ounces (355 milliliters, or mL) of beer

I assume they aren't talking about Carlsberg Master Brew, for instance.
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Old 17th May 2019, 08:07 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
The give-away-take-away: 4 deaths per 100,000 vs how many new lives conceived by drunken parents?

I have never seen beer recommended as a contraceptive.

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That commercial is so outdated!!!

And I fear that "the many new lives" may be outnumbered by the lives lost or damaged by drinking alcohol during pregnancy (WHO, 2017).
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Old 18th May 2019, 05:39 PM   #125
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
12 ounces (355 milliliters, or mL) of beer
as dann pointed out, what an epic blunder on Mayo's part. i.e. to say "12 oz of beer" is almost meaningless, since beer can vary a WHOLE lot in alcohol content. I'd guess they mean somewhere in the 5% range, which is typical, but they should specify.
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