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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:37 PM   #2721
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
Itís just . . . baffling. The police have dug up the whole story and thatís what we get from his camp? As high-falutiní as Mark Garagos is, why would he be willing to go down with this ship?

Nothing makes sense here. Is there another layer to this whole thing we havenít seen yet?


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Gallagos is a typical Hollywood lawyer....he functions not so much as an courtroom attorney, but as a PR hack. The really good courtoom lawyers in LA you almost never hear of, and avoid publicity,where as Gallagos courts it.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:39 PM   #2722
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
I may have to binge watch this show just to see how they do it on such short notice. So far my only exposure to Smollett is his minor role as a Xenomorph victim in Covenant.
Did it lynch him and cover him in alien bleach?
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:41 PM   #2723
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Well, that surprises me.

They must know that he's not telling the truth.
From what I have read, his fellow cast members were expecting an apology and a mea culpa, and were outraged when Smollet insisted on his innocence and pulled out his "The Police Set Me Up" story. The set of Empire is not going to be a happy place....
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:45 PM   #2724
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I didn't know that he is claiming a police set-up. Is that true?
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:48 PM   #2725
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Are the brothers forced to forfeit the $3500? Or will they have to pay income tax on it? Payment for services.
I am sure the legal fees they will have to pay from this..they will certainly be charged with being an accessory to the hoax...will more then eat up the $3500.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:49 PM   #2726
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
I didn't know that he is claiming a police set-up. Is that true?
Yup.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:51 PM   #2727
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Yup.
Interesting that he's blaming the police instead of the brothers. Or, is his story that the police hired the brothers?
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:52 PM   #2728
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"I was set up by the cops! They were supposed to find a couple of white guys. Instead, they confronted me with my own accomplices! Who does that? Corrupt, racist pigs, that's who!"
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Old 22nd February 2019, 12:53 PM   #2729
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I didn't know that he is claiming a police set-up. Is that true?
I mean, he doesn't really have a lot of options now. What story can he tell at this point, besides "the cops did it"?
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:07 PM   #2730
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"I was the victim of the Osundairo Brothers' so-called 'operation.' They threatened not to beat me up if I didn't pay them. What choice did I have?"

(aka the Piranha Brothers defense)
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:13 PM   #2731
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I mean, he doesn't really have a lot of options now. What story can he tell at this point, besides "the cops did it"?
Somewhere in his defense has to be, "the brothers are lying". Added would be, "I gave them money but not for a hoax. I still don't know why they beat me up."
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:18 PM   #2732
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Jussie just announced that he has an untreated drug problem.

And that gives me the G column and:

BINGO!
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:24 PM   #2733
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"I gave them $3500 for drugs and then they beat me up. I guess I deserve it, but I'm innocent of everything other than having an addiction."
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:26 PM   #2734
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Jussie just announced that he has an untreated drug problem.

And that gives me the G column and:

BINGO!
Link?
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:30 PM   #2735
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"I gave them $3500 for drugs and then they beat me up. I guess I deserve it, but I'm innocent of everything other than having an addiction."
his words were pretty calculated on GMA. not sure any drug issue is gonna fly.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:32 PM   #2736
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/848682...claim-ecstasy/
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:34 PM   #2737
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his words were pretty calculated on GMA. not sure any drug issue is gonna fly.
"One of the symptoms of drug addiction is that you say strange things. Things that don't make any sense. Like you are in a different world. I'm innocent of everything other than having an addiction."
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:35 PM   #2738
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I don't believe him. (about the drug problem)
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:38 PM   #2739
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Looks like it's a TMZ story. The Sun is quoting TMZ.

I think that's what's happening here.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:41 PM   #2740
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We already knew he was buying drugs from a brother, as this was in the proffer. Looks like TMZ is saying that during his arrest he said that he has an untreated addiction.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:45 PM   #2741
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His friends will know if he has a drug problem.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:46 PM   #2742
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He is such a pathetic little weasel.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:46 PM   #2743
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His friends will know if he has a drug problem.
A Hollywood actor with a drug problem?
Oh,I am so,so, shocked.....
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I'm trying to figure out if anyone else with a drug problem acted this way.

I don't see it.
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I'm trying to figure out if anyone else with a drug problem acted this way.

I don't see it.
It would be even more interesting to figure out how a drug problem could compel someone to plan such a detail and involved hoax as opposed to, you know, loll around their apartment and watch TV.
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Old 22nd February 2019, 01:55 PM   #2746
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I'm trying to figure out if anyone else with a drug problem acted this way.

I don't see it.
He is a narcissistic worm who would try and use any excuse for mitigation and sympathy.
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He is such a pathetic little weasel.
he's approached scumbag territory now.
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Is that literally hours after they claimed he was a real professional and a great asset to the show and would be going nowhere?

Have you never seen a Football Club President at a press conference saying that "the Coach has our full vote of confidence?". That is the point when the coach starts packing his bags because he knows he will be gone in a week.


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Seems like every time he opens his mouth he extends the depth of the hole he is digging .
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Just curious if anyone has seen anyone anywhere still defending Jussie. It seems like he is getting criticism (rightfully so) from all sides. I do notice some that were defending him early on have gone silent, but that's a bit different than a continued defense.

Of course, Jussie himself and his PR/Defense people don't count.
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Seems like every time he opens his mouth he extends the depth of the hole he is digging .
Because never tell anyone if you have a drug addiction, especially the police as you are being arrested.
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I don't believe him. (about the drug problem)
If it wasn't affecting his work, I guess he was managing it pretty well, and it wasn't really much of a problem.
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Just curious if anyone has seen anyone anywhere still defending Jussie. It seems like he is getting criticism (rightfully so) from all sides. I do notice some that were defending him early on have gone silent, but that's a bit different than a continued defense.

Of course, Jussie himself and his PR/Defense people don't count.
There are current reports that there are people at Empire who believe he is innocent. Of course "out in the world" there would be people believing him as well. There are too many billions of people for there not to be any true believers.
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If they could write out Charlies Sheen from "Two and a Half Men", they can write out anybody.
They managed to write out Taggart from Taggart!
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If it wasn't affecting his work, I guess he was managing it pretty well, and it wasn't really much of a problem.
I don't think molly is actually addictive. If he has a serious addiction it is more likely to be cocaine or heroin. But then maybe it's some other opiate or form.
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I don't think molly is actually addictive. If he has a serious addiction it is more likely to be cocaine or heroin. But then maybe it's some other opiate or form.
My assessment doesn't depend on it being molly.

Whatever it (supposedly) is, he seems to have been showing up on set, hitting his mark, and delivering his lines.

Drugs can make you act crazy, sure. But it doesn't seem like any of his coworkers are saying, "you know he's always been a little difficult on set. This hoax thing is totally believable, knowing him."
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What's the TL;DR on an anti-lynching bill? Why would such a thing be necessary or at all useful? Murder/attempted murder is illegal. All kinds of variations less severe than that are also illegal. Is this another useless bill to make one's side look good and the other look bad if they reject it as more useless legislation?

Or does the bill have a lot of other stuff attached like all of these things do
I realise this is now not the main theory, but I didn't see it properly responded to. If you read the bill, it redefines the meaning of the word lynching.

"If 2 or more persons willfully cause bodily injury to any other person, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person"


ď(A) IN GENERAL.óIf 2 or more persons, in any circumstance described in subparagraph (B), willfully cause bodily injury to any other person because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any personó

So, in this lynching law any time 2 or more people cause bodily injury to somebody in a protected class, for reasons of their class, that would be a lynching. If the townsfolk believed a child murderer was held by the police, broke into the police station to get their hands him, and hanged him from a lamppost, that would not be the sort of lynching that would be counted. If a crowd of antifa attack a jewish man, or some marines, because they mistake them for nazis.... that would not be a lynching in the sense of this law. If a couple of drunks throw a bottle at a transsexual, that could well be a lynching.

If I had to bet, I'd say that at least part of the intention is to create a situation where an inflated number of lynchings are recorded, skewed heavily in favour of straight white men as the aggressors. It's the privileged plus power redefinition of lynching.
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My assessment doesn't depend on it being molly.

Whatever it (supposedly) is, he seems to have been showing up on set, hitting his mark, and delivering his lines.

Drugs can make you act crazy, sure. But it doesn't seem like any of his coworkers are saying, "you know he's always been a little difficult on set. This hoax thing is totally believable, knowing him."
We don't know anything about what happens on set with Smollett. Maybe he needs extra takes when others don't, but he still delivers. We don't know. Maybe the problems happen if he shows up sober (not under the influence). Maybe he's a high-functioning coke or heroin addict.

Maybe his addiction didn't contribute to this crime but still he mentions having an addiction and that is true.
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Whatever it (supposedly) is, he seems to have been showing up on set, hitting his mark, and delivering his lines.

And remembering to mention mitigating factors when the police showed up.
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TMZ reporting that the FBI has not reached a conclusion about the origin of the letter.

That would mean CPD spoke way too soon...
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