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Old 28th September 2016, 05:26 PM   #2281
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
How do you know? Can you back up that claim with evidence?
I downloaded all his research, the staff logs end in November of 2015. No work is done after that date. And there is no working model on the site, even though they have a folder for it.
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Old 28th September 2016, 05:41 PM   #2282
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Originally Posted by MileHighMadness View Post
I downloaded all his research, the staff logs end in November of 2015. No work is done after that date. And there is no working model on the site, even though they have a folder for it.
You mean no work is documented after that date.
That doesn't mean none was done, does it?
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Old 28th September 2016, 05:49 PM   #2283
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
You mean no work is documented after that date.
That doesn't mean none was done, does it?
Possibly, but it would be completely undocumented. One note, the last post talked about a hard drive crash, losing data, and the computer tech's trying to fix the problem. Nothing after than...
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Old 28th September 2016, 06:35 PM   #2284
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Originally Posted by MileHighMadness View Post
Possibly, but it would be completely undocumented. One note, the last post talked about a hard drive crash, losing data, and the computer tech's trying to fix the problem. Nothing after than...
Right.
We can and must lament the lack of documentation that was clearly promised as an ongoing task.
You can only guess that no work was done.
I would guess that some work was done - what Hulsey presented recently talks of them having modeled (almost) all floors. I believe this is much more than they had documented by November. Also, he says they ran fire scenarios on those models, again that's more than they had documented by November, I think. Correct me if I am wrong. I do not suppose that Hulsey invented these additions out of nothing.
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Old 19th November 2016, 03:55 PM   #2285
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Here's a new video from Hulsey addressing a group of engineers in Alaska: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKN4...&feature=share

This guy is a joke. He is asked directly about the floor collapses in the NIST hypothesis and admits he has not even yet finished his analyses on those portions of the collapse scenario! What a stark contrast to his previously touted conclusion that fire could not have caused the collapse!

He is also asked about litigations and plays ignorant about getting documents related to them. I personally emailed him the Aegis Insurance case reports many months ago! How can he pretend such materials are being withheld from him? He's being a pure snake in the grass. Look at how he talks in circles re materials from the Port Authority. He wants to make it sound like they aren't cooperating with him, but, if you listen real close, its obvious he never even requested materials from them.

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Old 20th November 2016, 02:35 AM   #2286
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He had to invite them to meals to be listened?
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Old 20th November 2016, 03:51 AM   #2287
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Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
Here's a new video from Hulsey addressing a group of engineers in Alaska: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKN4...&feature=share

This guy is a joke. He is asked directly about the floor collapses in the NIST hypothesis and admits he has not even yet finished his analyses on those portions of the collapse scenario! What a stark contrast to his previously touted conclusion that fire could not have caused the collapse!

He is also asked about litigations and plays ignorant about getting documents related to them. I personally emailed him the Aegis Insurance case reports many months ago! How can he pretend such materials are being withheld from him? He's being a pure snake in the grass. Look at how he talks in circles re materials from the Port Authority. He wants to make it sound like they aren't cooperating with him, but, if you listen real close, its obvious he never even requested materials from them.

Well he did debunk Tony S. The dumb Ceiling tile Ideas.
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Old 20th November 2016, 04:59 AM   #2288
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Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
Here's a new video from Hulsey addressing a group of engineers in Alaska: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKN4...&feature=share
Damned!
I am not even 1/4 through a talk he gave to UAF engineering students, where I am taking screenshots and taking notes to comment on what he says. Dealing with YT stuff is so terribly time consuming, I wish they would post the presentations online, you know, the slides and the words!

Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
This guy is a joke. He is asked directly about the floor collapses in the NIST hypothesis and admits he has not even yet finished his analyses on those portions of the collapse scenario!
In his previous talks, he conflated different NIST models: The partial, 16-story ANSYS model that found the girder walk-off with the 47-story LS-DYNA model done to visualize the collapse progression, and claims that the collapse model only has the eastern part fexible, and the central and western part connections infinitely stiff, and that that is why there is so much more happening in the east core.

[ETA]The part im the latest presentation where he commits this blunder is from 15:28 minutes (limited ANSYS model) to 21:00, with the presentation of the full dynamic collapse starting at 18:25, and the conflation occurring at 19:31.[/ETA]

In other word, Hulsey has not yet understood, perhaps not even read, just the Executive Summary.

Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
... if you listen real close, its obvious he never even requested materials from them.
Another almost 1 hour of boring talk to listen to... *yikes*
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Old 20th November 2016, 09:52 AM   #2289
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This was destined to be a train wreck... embarrassment... just based on the resources and staffing of the investigators alone. It's amazing that it's held up as some sort of proof of anything... blind leading and blind following the blind.
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Old 13th April 2017, 10:15 PM   #2290
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Hulsey is saying the final report is coming this coming August. This should be interesting...
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Old 15th April 2017, 03:06 AM   #2291
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Originally Posted by MileHighMadness View Post
Hulsey is saying the final report is coming this coming August. This should be interesting...
Interesting? Why? No. We know the conclusion already:
Originally Posted by Criteria in September 2016 View Post
ZERO chance that the fires caused the collapse of WTC7!
No actual study, no work was needed for Hulsey to know the conclusion his money-source demands.
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Old 15th April 2017, 06:25 AM   #2292
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Here is the AE911Truth email sent yesterday:
http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?e=[UNIQID]&u=d03bf3ffcac549c7dc7888ef5&id=799a597adc

Interestingly, it mentions more than just the NIST report:
Originally Posted by AE911T
Unlike the studies conducted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and by firms working on behalf of Silverstein Properties and Con Edison, all of the data associated with the UAF study will be made public so that it can fully be scrutinized.

Even more interesting, they present the central piece of illogical logic in Hulsey's thinking so far:
Originally Posted by AE911T
Before this stage, the team was evaluating the effects of fire on the structural members of Floor 13 near Column 79, where the collapse of WTC 7 is alleged to have initiated. The results of that analysis led Dr. Hulsey’s team to conclude in no uncertain terms that fires could not have triggered a global progressive collapse.
The logic here is supposed to be: "If failure of element A could not happen to result in progressive failure, then no other failure in any other element could". This is very obviously wrong.


They promised to keep the public informed on the technical progress of the project. How do they do this? Academic outlets? No.
AE911Truth's own propaganda channel.
Originally Posted by AE911T
For a full status update, we invite you to listen to Dr. Hulsey and AE911Truth’s Ted Walter discuss the project on yesterday’s episode of 9/11 Free Fall.
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Old 15th April 2017, 11:33 AM   #2293
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Dr. Hulsey, PHD., SE, Chairman, Dept. of Civil Engineering University of Alaska brings his knowledge and experience as both a structural engineer and a forensic structural engineer to this research.
In my experience, CEs mostly know dirt and rock, and what happens when you put something on them. Dirt is especially treacherous and requires an expert, but what happens upstairs requires a different skill set.

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Are you an engineer? I am an engineer, and your statement is BS. A claim based on bias, paranoia, and gullibility. What engineering school did you go to? Most engineers understand fire and steel, and 9/11 truth has what appears to be a subset of the insane, complacent, or nutcase engineers; with less than 0.1 percent of all engineer.

It only takes a grade school education to know CD is a fantasy born in ignorance. Does the, http://cem.uaf.edu/ , college of engineering know the CD head, http://cem.uaf.edu/cee/people/leroy-hulsey.aspx , is a CT BS artist.
I'm a draftsman. At best, a designer, but I spent decades with "engineer" as my job title. When I started a magazine study showed that nearly 10% of engineers lacked even a high school diploma, so my expectations regarding my peers is not high. However, in junior high the guy remodeling our basement told me the steel girder supporting the upper floor would, in a fire, fail long before a similarly sized wooden beam. He was a carpenter. I was a kid, and I could instantly understand the process he described. Why is it so hard for others?
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In my experience, CEs mostly know dirt and rock, and what happens when you put something on them. Dirt is especially treacherous and requires an expert, but what happens upstairs requires a different skill set.

I'm a draftsman. At best, a designer, but I spent decades with "engineer" as my job title. When I started a magazine study showed that nearly 10% of engineers lacked even a high school diploma, so my expectations regarding my peers is not high. However, in junior high the guy remodeling our basement told me the steel girder supporting the upper floor would, in a fire, fail long before a similarly sized wooden beam. He was a carpenter. I was a kid, and I could instantly understand the process he described. Why is it so hard for others?
Hulsey proves engineers can be CT nuts. Any layperson with knowledge can beat Hulsey, or an engineer.

Yep, steel fails in fire.
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I haven't read any of this thread. Gonna guess that this was the one that proved Bush or the Jews or a hurricane-powered energy gun did it.

Too bad, I really thought NIST knew what they were talking about.
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Over at metabunk, I posted two decently detailed overviews of the evolution of this project based on Hulsey's public comments. You can find them in the same thread here and here, respectively.

I think anyone who expects this study to resolve anything is going to be gravely disappointed. It's devolved into merely a study of certain aspect's of NIST's hypothesis and it's already clear that Hulsey's public statements to date re the scope of its conclusions are bias-motivated bunk that are unsupported by the work his team actually accomplished to date. Hulsey no longer talks about having the study peer reviewed in a respected journal; instead, they are going to make up their own "peer review panel" process so they can lie about the acceptability and soundness of their work to their gullible supporters.

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Old 22nd May 2017, 10:25 PM   #2297
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Firefighters reported one elevator car out of it's shaft. That indicates core damage or at least movement.
The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
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Old 23rd May 2017, 12:53 AM   #2298
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The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
So you say.
Firstly, what is your timeline on this? At what point were these "pre-weakening demolitions" set off? What explosive was used, and what evidence do you have for either of these points?
Secondly, how did you determine that the lifts were displaced prior to the general collapse of the building, and not during it?
Finally, do you have any exampes of other buildings demolished in this way, so as to provide a point of reference for this "consistency" you claim?
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Old 23rd May 2017, 01:51 AM   #2299
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The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
No it isn't.

See, I can make unsupported assertions too.

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Old 23rd May 2017, 07:06 AM   #2300
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CD, the lie that without evidence - 9/11 truth core lie

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The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
The old CD dumbed down inside job fantasy card is being played again. True failure

Part of the WTC tower damaged the stairwell where Hess was. 9/11 truth has no clue if Hess experienced an explosives cutting the stairs, his brain would be mush. CD a failed fantasy of 9/11 truth. 9-11 truth a fake movement based on paranoid, a liars-r-us club for the fringe few who can't, or refuse to think for themselves. Don't join the liars club, 9/11 truth, they have eternal failure locked up.

Hulsey is a paranoid 9/11 truth CD guy, who will lie to make the CD fantasy dumber for 9/11 truth cult members who can't do science. What are the odds he is a JFK nut too. Is Bigfoot far behind, or moon landing denial. You should take your posts to the loose change clubhouse forum for idiotic 9/11 truth claims, where the mod JFK will help you out with your failed 9/11 truth claims. You will be in a place where your lack of evidence is expected, and overlooked.

Did you make up the pre-weakened displaced elevator claim? Got some engineering or science to go with that BS. No

Hess did not encounter demolition.

Speculation and lies, the 9/11 truth method of woo. 3 lies in one sentence, efficient woo.
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Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
The displaced elevator car is consistent with platoons of evil, see-sawing midgets, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.

The displaced elevator car is consistent with gene-modified, steel-eating termites, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.

The possibilities are numberless.

The evidence is zero.
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Clemson 74, AFIT 82, engineering and masters in engineering.
It saddens me that experts would work so hard to prevent truth and justice for our nation.

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... Clemson 74, AFIT 82, engineering and masters in engineering. ...
Did they teach you it was okay to commit treason if the SecDef declared war on his own Country?

Just curious....
Using BS to support lies? What does the SecDef have to do with Hulsey's paranoid fantasy world and failed belief in the fantasy of CD. Why does Hulsey lie about 9/11, and why do you believe the evidence free lies/claims.

SecDef did not declare war on his own country, Hulsey and the Boston bombers believe lies made up about 9/11. Do you believe claims with no evidence too.

What does 9/11 truth's followers lack of engineering knowledge have to do with the SecDef and your fantasy conspiracy?

Did they teach you to believe in lies and paranoid conspiracy theories? What engineering school was that?

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... Clemson 74, AFIT 82, engineering and masters in engineering. ...
It saddens me that experts would work so hard to prevent truth and justice for our nation.
Yes, Hulsey lies about 9/11, and as an "expert" in 9/11 truth, it is sad he lies and misleads those who don't understand fire, science, engineering and physics. Hulsey failed to prevent truth, 19 terrorists did 9/11, Hulsey has no clue.

You and Hulsey are restoring American honor by spreading lies.
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The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
So you say.
Firstly, what is your timeline on this? At what point were these "pre-weakening demolitions" set off? What explosive was used, and what evidence do you have for either of these points?
Secondly, how did you determine that the lifts were displaced prior to the general collapse of the building, and not during it?
Finally, do you have any exampes of other buildings demolished in this way, so as to provide a point of reference for this "consistency" you claim?
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It saddens me that experts would work so hard to prevent truth and justice for our nation.
Once you have dried your eyes, perhaps you could cite your own experts/ expertise and answer my questions. It would serve your case much better than vague and insincere expressions of sadness.
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Originally Posted by Notconvinced View Post
The displaced elevator car is consistent with internal pre-weakeing demolitions, such as those used to cut the stairwells that Hess encountered.
So these preweakening charges went off when?

Oh, I know, at the same time the debris from WTC1 hit WTC7,,, right?
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See my post above yours.
Still waiting for answers....
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University of Alaska Fairbanks $300000 model that disproves NIST theory on wtc 7?

I have been out of the whole 9/11 conspiracy debate for some time. So not sure if this has been addressed. I grew tired of the truthers and their stupidity.

I saw this post on this reddit post (contains so much woo) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/c...nding_theresa/

The University of Alaska Fairbanks is set to release its $300,000 computer model of Building 7. This finite element analysis of the 3rd tower collapse on 9/11 has exposed the official NIST report as fraudulent. Here is the UAF presentation for members of the American Society of Civil Engineers:*https://youtu.be/EKN4qilUOfs

Why is this important?

Just this year, a former NIST employee of 14 years made his first public appearance speaking out against the official report with Dr. Hulsey from UAF:

If NIST truly believes in the veracity of its WTC investigation, then it should openly share all evidence, data, models, computations, and other relevant information unless specific and compelling reasons are otherwise provided.*—Peter Ketcham, NIST 1997-2011

Some of the professionals who helped fund this research along side the University of Alaska Fairbanks:

David Topete, MSCE, S.E., Structural Engineer

Mr. Topete discusses how WTC Building 7's column 79's failure could not have caused the symmetrical and simultaneous global collapse at free fall acceleration.

Kamal Obeid, C.E., S.E. – Civil/Structural Engineer

Mr. Obeid, a 30-year structural engineer explains how NIST's analysis actually disproves it's own theories on how WTC Building 7 collapsed, thereby confirming the use of controlled demolition.

Tom Sullivan - Former Explosives Loader for Controlled Demolition, Inc.

Tom discusses the complex process of preparing a building for controlled demolition and explains the reasons why WTC Building 7 was a textbook controlled demolition in his eyes.

WTC Chief Electrical Design Engineer, Richard Huemenn P.E.

"An international commission should be formed to look at this in an unbiased manner."

The NIST report is fraudulent and this fact is now being discussed across the world. Here is a physics magazine article dissecting the NIST fraud, which has now been read over*550,000*times:

http://www.europhysicsnews.org/artic...2016474p21.pdf

Subscribers include the Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft, the world's largest organization of physicists.

Any thoughts on this model? Perhaps it offers a different explanation, but doesnt prove CD?



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Yes it has. Here for example:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=311698
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=300664
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Old 19th July 2017, 04:11 PM   #2309
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Any thoughts on this model? Perhaps it offers a different explanation, but doesnt prove CD?
As far as I know it is set up to disprove NIST's explanation, but it doesn't offer a different one, much less proves CD. However their logic is that if NIST's explanation is wrong has a flaw, then CD is the only possible one.
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Old 19th July 2017, 04:59 PM   #2310
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Where do Truthers keep getting the notion that this study cost "$300,000"? Is that something AE911Truth is actually claiming somewhere? As far as I know, the study was conducted part time over two years by two students (one pre-doc, one post-doc) in one of the lowest cost of living locations in the country. If AE911Truth really spent $300,000 on that, they are just burning their supporters' money.

As to the study itself, it has been discussed extensively here and metabunk and I have yet to see a truther actually defend how it was conducted. In short, Hulsey has been falsely claiming for many months to have reached a conclusion that his research to date could not possibly support. It's a sad farce. Moreover, over time, the scope of the project has been narrowed from an independent investigation into the cause of the WTC7 collapse to merely a (dishonest) evaluation of NIST's model of the WTC7 collapse. And, as if that weren't enough chutzpah, Hulsey will not be submitting the paper for a true peer review at a respectable journal or anywhere else; rather, the final paper will be "peer reviewed" by a panel of individuals handpicked by Hulsey. It's the scientific equivalent to a kangaroo court and an utter and complete sham. The only reason it is being done this way is so that AE911Truth can use it to raise money from their poor followers who don't understand what peer review actually is.

All the aforementioned chutzpah and more is documented in detail here and here. At the end of the day, all anyone needs to do in order to see what a sham this study has shaped up to be is to actually listen to Hulsey himself describe it.

EDIT: Also, re the Europhysics article, truthers conveniently forget to point out that the editors noted it was a speculative piece that was published without any actual peer review: http://archive.is/JMYqU#selection-295.1-363.214

EDIT 2: Also note that reddit users "NIST_Report", "12-23-1913" and "stonetear2016" are all the same person and so you will often see those usernames on reddit spreading the same or similar copy pasta. It's either someone who works for AE911Truth or someone with way too much time on their hands.

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Old 19th July 2017, 07:23 PM   #2311
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Ahh yes, the time traveling jewish nuke theory. It's all making sense now.
It's the much feared (by members of the pointy hat club) Hebrew Voodoo.

They're crafty...!
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Old 19th July 2017, 11:12 PM   #2312
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It's either someone who works for AE911Truth or someone with way too much time on their hands.
Does anybody still work for AE911Truth? I ask because the most recent event they show on their events page is from the last anniversary.
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Old 19th July 2017, 11:36 PM   #2313
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Thanks for the info!

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This is actually funny or pathetic... junk science a conclusion in search of an explanation.
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Old 20th July 2017, 06:47 AM   #2315
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Does anybody still work for AE911Truth? I ask because the most recent event they show on their events page is from the last anniversary.
Just yesterday, I updated a little statistics I privately keep on the "News" items on ae911truth.org

The simplest measure, articles published per year, surely shows a decline:
Sep 2014 - Aug 2015: 44
Sep 2015 - Aug 2016: 29
Sep 2016 - Aug 2017: 25*

They are pretty secretive about who is doing work for them. Of the 22 articles written since last September, only one was written by an architect or engineer, 8 were written anonymously by "Staff", but 13 were written by people without any A&E credentials:
5 by Chris Sarns (carpenter) - a series of articles on the NIST WTC7 report
3 by Craig McKee, a Canadian journalist who has not even signed Gage's petition
2 by Mark Oliver, a "self-taught videographer"
1 each by Simon Falkner (young Icelandic punk who hasn't studied anything with focus and most recently failed as a journalist; economics major), James McDowell (musician, sound engineer, and carpenter) and Michael DeFilippo (BS in Electrical engineering technology)


* This is extrapolated, as we haven't reached the end of August yet: 22 articles in 322 days so far, is 25 per 365 days
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Old 20th July 2017, 03:40 PM   #2316
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Is Hulsey actually going to publish in the name of the University of Alaska? If not, then the claim fails to even state who the correct authors are ... I'm sure the university can't be happy about that.
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It's the much feared (by members of the pointy hat club) Hebrew Voodoo.

They're crafty...!
Jewdoo.
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Old 21st July 2017, 07:11 AM   #2318
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Jewdoo.
Do what? Remind me of the babe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvyNOg4jSRg
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Bumping the original Leroy Hulsey (University of Alaska at Fairbanks) "WTC7 Evaluation Project" thread, started in November 2015, abandoned in August 2016.

Another was started in September 2016.
Yet another was started on July 19, 2017.

Since there is practically no temporal overlap between these threads, I will ask moderators to merge them.

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The occasion for this bump is a comment written today on 911Blogger by dtg86 (whose real name I think I knew at some time, but forgot; dtg are almost certainly initials). He is a bona fide truther, from what I have read in the past: Happily convinced of the "explosive demolitions after 4 plane crashes" teaching of the Truth Denomination that's most in line with 911Blogger, but not without some critical capacity. This post is in a thread about the dormant Mark Basile chips testing failure, but he has also this to say about Hulsey's project:
Originally Posted by dtg86
[Mark Basile's failure to use, or account for, $5,000 from donations] makes donating for other projects for research, such as http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/, even more difficult since no one will trust that their donation will be used for the purposes stated.

To be fair, the http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/, was also poorly communicated. There was one update, some videos, and short of the briefing given at last years conference in NYC, we've gotten no updates, no release of project data (except the one time previously mentioned), nothing. The website says "Follow", "Give Input", go ahead and try, you'll never hear from. I never gotten any responses to my questions or input. They took my donation pretty regularly however which I'll never bitch about the money. I don't care about the money. It's about integrity and following up promises made which seems to run in very very short supply.

Just my two cents for what it's worth.
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
Bumping the original Leroy Hulsey (University of Alaska at Fairbanks) "WTC7 Evaluation" project - thread started in November 2015, abandoned in August 2016.

Another was started in September 2016.
Yet another was started on July 19, 2017.
Ah, threads. I thought at first you were talking about projects by Hulsey; it wouldn't have been very surprising if he'd given up and started again a few times.

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