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Old 5th July 2017, 08:28 AM   #1
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Yet Another Model of WTC7 Collapse

This time as described in a textbook written by one of the world's foremost experts on disproportionate collapses:

https://www.crcpress.com/Structural-.../9781498706797

Truthers--maybe next time you are thinking of donating money to AE911Truth, you should instead buy this book and actually learn something. While the actual experts have moved on to making WTC7 a literal textbook case study in progressive collapse, the fearless leadership at AE911Truth has hired a bridge designer and two grad students to put forward garbage conclusions that cannot possibly follow from their work as they have described it.
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Old 5th July 2017, 09:58 AM   #2
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Here is Google Scholar's page on the author, Feng Fu of the City University of London:

https://scholar.google.de/citations?...J&hl=de&oi=sra

Fu has been publishing since 2006, the same year he got his PhD in Civil Engineering from the University of Leeds, so he is not very far advanced in his career. Consequently, his Hirsch-index number is still at 9 - solid, but probably not exceptional (you'd have to compare with authors in the same field).

Here is his vita at City's website:
http://www.city.ac.uk/people/academics/feng-fu

I don't know how many "experts on disproportionate collapses" there are in the world and can't judge whether Fu is one of the "foremost" of them.
His publications of course show that indeed his studies concentrate on tall buildings under extreme loading and progressive collapse, mainly through the use of modelling software. This is definitively an author that Leroy Hulsey and his poor PhD candidates should have read by now.



ETA: Clicking on Google Scholar's "Progressive Collapse" label, I get this:
https://scholar.google.de/citations?...ssive_collapse

Feng Fu is listed as the author on "Progressive Collapse" with the 3rd most citations (394). However, first-place Muhammad NS Hadi has hardly any publications on progressive collapse, this seems to be a collateral interest with him.

So the #1 expert in the world on Progressive Collapse, as measured by number of citations (1382; Hirsch-index 21), appears to be Uwe Starossek of the Hamburg University of Technology. Since one of his main interest seems to be bridges, Leroy Hulsey absolutely MUST have read Starossek! (Then again, only a part of his publications deal with collapses; so Fu may indeed be the world's leading author on progressive collapse after all!)


ETA2: Starossek is the head of TU Hamburg's "Structural Analysis and Steel Structures Institute".
He, too, has a book on the subject: Progressive Collapse of Structures (2009).
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Old 5th July 2017, 11:18 AM   #3
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I characterized him as a foremost expert on disproportionate collapse due to his membership on the Structural Engineering Institute's Disproportionate Collapse Technical Committee, which committee is tasked by the ASCE with designing code guidelines concerning alternative path resistance and disproportionate collapse mitigation. More on the committee can be found here.

And for a little bit more knife twisting to AE911Truth, here is a press release about WAI (including Dr. Abboud, who was the principle author of WAI's report on WTC 7) presenting, both to the foregoing committee and to general sessions, on disproportionate collapse at SEI's annual conference in 2015. Why didn't AE911Truth attend this conference and explain to all the actual experts how such collapses are impossible?

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Old 6th July 2017, 10:21 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post


ETA2: Starossek is the head of TU Hamburg's "Structural Analysis and Steel Structures Institute".
He, too, has a book on the subject: Progressive Collapse of Structures (2009).
Great find. According to the the introduction, it seems Starossek's book may also discuss WTC7 in some detail, though probably not as a specific case study to the same extent as Fu's text.
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Old 12th July 2017, 12:11 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
This time as described in a textbook written by one of the world's foremost experts on disproportionate collapses:

https://www.crcpress.com/Structural-.../9781498706797

Truthers--maybe next time you are thinking of donating money to AE911Truth, you should instead buy this book and actually learn something. While the actual experts have moved on to making WTC7 a literal textbook case study in progressive collapse, the fearless leadership at AE911Truth has hired a bridge designer and two grad students to put forward garbage conclusions that cannot possibly follow from their work as they have described it.
Does the author actually do his own model or merely pay homage to NIST's model?
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Old 12th July 2017, 12:20 PM   #6
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Does the author actually do his own model or merely pay homage to NIST's model?
Didn't buy the book yet, though it sounds like the former. In any case, which one do you think would be worse for truther fantasies--an established independent expert on disproportionate collapse independently arriving at conclusions similar to NIST or an established independent expert on disproportionate collapse directly ratifying NIST's methodologies in a standard text?

I'm not sure which would raise Tony's Szamboti's blood pressure most, to be honest.
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Old 12th July 2017, 12:36 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Criteria View Post
Does the author actually do his own model or merely pay homage to NIST's model?
As a dedicated 9/11 researcher, no doubt your fact-finding methods will allow you to determine that by clicking the link in the OP and reading the page, if that's not too much work.

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Old 12th July 2017, 07:21 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
As a dedicated 9/11 researcher, no doubt your fact-finding methods will allow you to determine that by clicking the link in the OP and reading the page, if that's not too much work.

Dave
He might though actually have to buy something at some point. So much harder than Googletube.
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Old 18th July 2017, 01:48 PM   #9
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Does the author actually do his own model or merely pay homage to NIST's model?
Yes, we know. It's lonely at the bottom.
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