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Old 19th January 2017, 01:38 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by marplots View Post
I don't speak Arabic, but if you listen closely, just before it comes down, you can hear someone in the background say, "Pull it."
That would be Farsi (Persian language) - a Indo-European language and as such a cousin of Sanskrit, Greek, German and English, but not of Arabic. It is however predominantly written in a variety of the Arabic script.

To demonstrate the relationship to English: The Persian words "modar", "dochtar", "baradar" mean "mother", "daughter" and "brother", respectively. "Pedar" (father) is closer to the Latin "pater".
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Old 19th January 2017, 01:43 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
That would be Farsi (Persian language) - a Indo-European language and as such a cousin of Sanskrit, Greek, German and English, but not of Arabic. It is however predominantly written in a variety of the Arabic script.

To demonstrate the relationship to English: The Persian words "modar", "dochtar", "baradar" mean "mother", "daughter" and "brother", respectively. "Pedar" (father) is closer to the Latin "pater".
Yes but did you notice, Tony, Ziggi, and Criteria are completely silent for once?
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Old 19th January 2017, 01:50 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGr4D1-zDI

This is a much better angle. It shows ejections of dust or smoke coming out of the building looking very similar to the ones from the WTC.
Which would appear to provide confirmation - if any was needed - that this is what a steel frame building looks like in a collapse due to fire.
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Old 19th January 2017, 01:52 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGr4D1-zDI

This is a much better angle. It shows ejections of dust or smoke coming out of the building looking very similar to the ones from the WTC.
did you mean to debunk the truther's cd theories? Because you just did one hell of a job at doing it!

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Old 19th January 2017, 01:58 PM   #45
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Two high buckets with hoses appear to be attacking the locations where the greatest fire involvement is occurring. First failure occurs at one of those areas and pretty obviously involved floor collapse. The smoke and dust blow-out a second or two before first exterior frame failure.

One of the buckets seems to dodge being affected at all by debris, but the other swings back and forth. Very fortunate for the guys up there.
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:05 PM   #46
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http://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources...=LYNXMPED0I0JU
That looks eerily similar to WTC7
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:20 PM   #47
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Here's the point where Tony and the rest of the conspiracy crew start shifting goalposts.

This collapse wasn't rapid enough.

This collapse wasn't symmetrical enough.

The building was only 17 stories.
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:23 PM   #48
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Doesn't look like very significant fires. Tiny. Barely see them. Must have been explosives....

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Old 19th January 2017, 02:26 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGr4D1-zDI

This is a much better angle. It shows ejections of dust or smoke coming out of the building looking very similar to the ones from the WTC.

Here is an alledgedly original piece of footage with very clear sound of the collapse and a very clear view of the ejections of material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGr4D1-zDI

A compilation with several interesting views of the collapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM

I've lost count as to how many times those ejections were explained to Truthers as they continued to reject the laws of physics and substitute disinformation even though I'd posted photos and videos of the same ejections taken during Verinage demolition operations that did not require the use of explosives.
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:35 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
This is a much better angle. It shows ejections of dust or smoke coming out of the building looking very similar to the ones from the WTC.
Even Robert McCoy (which was, or is, a chairman of AE911T) explained that that's expected in a pancake collapse.
[...] But it's going to come down in a pancake fashion, in a staccato kind of way, bang-bang-bang-bang-bang as it comes. It's not going to come as a smooth fall. And you're going to see puffs of pulverizing concrete, each time a floor... a series of floors hits another floor. I didn't see that. I saw billowing columns of dust when I viewed the videos. [...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfgXDnn8V_I

(That he couldn't see them speaks poorly of his observation skills, because they are clearly there. But the point is, it's expected in a pancake collapse.)

Also, that video was previously posted by Benthamitemetric.
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:37 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by skyeagle409 View Post
I've lost count as to how many times those ejections were explained to Truthers as they continued to reject the laws of physics and substitute disinformation even though I'd posted photos and videos of the same ejections taken during Verinage demolition operations that did not require the use of explosives.
I don't think anybody ever said that every single ejection of dust were explosives going off. There are also those infamous ejections directly on the corners of both towers. The ejections you see in the videos are only going down a few floors away from where the collapse started. What would be interesting would be to see a hypothetical 100 story Plasco building collapse.
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Old 19th January 2017, 02:39 PM   #52
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For some reason I cant post videos. Can someone help me out??
Youtube video "Plasco Iran Building Collapse Tehran! 01/19/2017 - (Compilation)"
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For some reason I cant post videos. Can someone help me out??
Youtube video "Plasco Iran Building Collapse Tehran! 01/19/2017 - (Compilation)"
Already been posted on bottom of page 1
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I've put on my 9/11 conspiracy shoes and came up with this repeat of history on the opposite side of the globe.


Iran plans to extend sectarian policies far beyond Iraq, Syria

Iranian aggression could expand to Bahrain, Yemen, Mosul and Syria, an Iranian top commander said, as it continues to apply sectarian policies to countries in which people suffer most

http://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/20...ond-iraq-syria


+


Plasco Iran Building Collapse Tehran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM

=

1/19 Conspiracy

or

(9/11 Conspiracy) in reverse

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Old 19th January 2017, 03:09 PM   #55
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[quote=MicahJava;11675461]I don't think anybody ever said that every single ejection of dust were explosives going off. [quote]


Let's take a look here.

Quote:
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This is one of the most compelling articles for C.D. that AE911Truth has ever produced! The official story must claim that these images show "puffs of air" as a result of compression from pancaking floors. However:

Photo

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/...ima/squibs.jpg

Source:

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-12-0...h-faq-7-squibs
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Old 19th January 2017, 03:12 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by skyeagle409 View Post
I've put on my 9/11 conspiracy shoes and came up with this repeat of history on the opposite side of the globe.


Iran plans to extend sectarian policies far beyond Iraq, Syria

Iranian aggression could expand to Bahrain, Yemen, Mosul and Syria, an Iranian top commander said, as it continues to apply sectarian policies to countries in which people suffer most

http://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/20...ond-iraq-syria


+


Plasco Iran Building Collapse Tehran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM

=

1/19 Conspiracy

or

(9/11 Conspiracy) in reverse

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Old 19th January 2017, 03:14 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
That would be Farsi (Persian language) - a Indo-European language and as such a cousin of Sanskrit, Greek, German and English, but not of Arabic. It is however predominantly written in a variety of the Arabic script.

To demonstrate the relationship to English: The Persian words "modar", "dochtar", "baradar" mean "mother", "daughter" and "brother", respectively. "Pedar" (father) is closer to the Latin "pater".
That's OK, I don't speak Farsi either.
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I've put on my 9/11 conspiracy shoes and came up with this repeat of history on the opposite side of the globe.
I think you may be on to something. Next they'll claim the US has weapons of mass destruction, then blame us for the building collapse, then attack Guam.
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For some reason I cant post videos. Can someone help me out??
Youtube video "Plasco Iran Building Collapses Tehran! 01/19/2017 (Compilation)"
Originally Posted by cjnewson88 View Post
Already been posted on bottom of page 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM
I dont want to sound like woo, but the first ten seconds shows a lot of "activity"
toward the bottom of building.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy9 View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM
I dont want to sound like woo, but the first ten seconds shows a lot of "activity"
toward the bottom of building.
They should test the dust for Microspheres and nano thermite right away.
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Old 19th January 2017, 04:02 PM   #61
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Shoddy construction in a third world country. "Pyroclastic dust clouds" PROVE* it was a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION*.

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* truth is in large font and bold.............
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Originally Posted by Jimmy9 View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov9Q9RME4PM
I dont want to sound like woo, but the first ten seconds shows a lot of "activity"
toward the bottom of building.
Yep, people trying to get stuff out, and fire fighters...

oops, there goes another tagline for 9/11 truth...

Iran’s oldest high-rise building in Tehran crumbles after fire

Delusional Tagline debunked... "never before has a highrise fallen in fire"
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This changes everything.

Gage, Szamboti will accept that fire alone can collapse tall steel buildings and abandon the claim none can. They will abandon the thermite, silent explosives and Silverstein made out like a bandit fantasies; that Bazant, NIST, ARUP, Weidlinger and dozens of domestic and foreign fire and structural engineers are not after all liars, frauds, paid shills of the US government, but to be admired and respected among the best of their profession; that Bush , NYPD, FDNY and thousands of government employees did not attack New York but True Believers; that they have been mistaken all these years and apologize to have falsely accused the innocent and absolved the guilty; and that AE/911T will stop taking money and honorably close.






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Yes, I think so. Still, WTC7 was about three times taller, and it was made to resist stronger wind loads. WTC7's façade looks sturdier to me.
WTC7 was moment framed, which I think is why it held together well as it collapsed and looked so freaky to the Truthers. I am not sure the Tehran building was moment framed.
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Did an explosion cause the collapse of the Plasco building?

When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.

Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?
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When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.

Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?
No.
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Originally Posted by benthamitemetric View Post
Truthers are already hypothesizing that this 50+ year old steel framed building that burned for 3 hours before collapsing was a controlled demolition. They think so because "squibs" and at least one flash could be seen as it collapsed. The poor fools are so epistemologically crippled that it never occurs to them that such "squibs" and flashes are, and have always been, characteristics of a large building that is collapsing, and not exclusively of a large building being intentionally demolished. Just amazing how powerfully people will distort reality to reach their preferred conclusion.
Even Tony Szamboti has now opened a thread on the matter. How sillier can it get?

Accepting that buildings are vulnerable to fire is too much of a low blow for their sacred beliefs.
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Originally Posted by Tony Szamboti View Post
When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.

Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?
Why am I not surprised, I expected a better more logical excuse from you Tony, any explosion would be a fuel air blast not high explosive!

I thought you would try to say because the building had such a high fuel loading being basicly a textiles work shop, that would have cause exceedingly high temperatures for such a long period that that would have doomed the building.

But a fuel air blast, no way it was a fire with stack effect, and a heavy fuel load, just like the towers and building 7.
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Termites. It's the only logical conclusion.

I'm not yet sure how the termites survived for so long while fires raged through the building but they were probably protected with some kind of insulation.
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Termites. It's the only logical conclusion.

I'm not yet sure how the termites survived for so long while fires raged through the building but they were probably protected with some kind of insulation.
They crawled under the burning Garments, and chewed up the concrete floors.
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They crawled under the burning Garments, and chewed up the concrete floors.
They could have been protected for some time within tiny cracks in the concrete, if they were small enough. Nano-termites.
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They could have been protected for some time within tiny cracks in the concrete, if they were small enough. Nano-termites.
What about super duper micro nano super termites.
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Termites. It's the only logical conclusion.

I'm not yet sure how the termites survived for so long while fires raged through the building but they were probably protected with some kind of insulation.
The factory made Thermal clothing. I don't need to spell out what you get when you mix Thermal and Termite.
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We need to take it easy on Tony today, his whole world just collapsed,
He might be on the verge of a major logical breakthrough, but I doubt it very, very, very, much.
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Originally Posted by Tony Szamboti View Post
When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.

Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?
oh ffs just accept reality for once
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Originally Posted by Tony Szamboti View Post
When viewing video of the collapse of the 17 story Plasco building in Tehran it appears there were a couple of violent expulsions (not just billowing smoke) just before the back of the building started to come apart.

Could an explosion of something inside the building have caused the walls to collapse?
I would try to provide some type of evidence for explosives at WTC7 before moving on to another conspiracy theory.
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