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Old 6th April 2017, 03:51 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
However, those ratings don't matter one iota when there are no advertisers.
If the ratings are high enough, someone will advertise. Maybe not the same folks who did before, but someone will fill that void.
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Old 6th April 2017, 05:13 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by ddt View Post
However, those ratings don't matter one iota when there are no advertisers.
Yep, Glenn Beck was still getting very high ratings when advertisers started dropping and then He was gone from Fox.
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Old 6th April 2017, 05:57 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by Emily's Cat View Post
If the ratings are high enough, someone will advertise. Maybe not the same folks who did before, but someone will fill that void.
At least the depth of the client pool will be decreased, which is better than nothing. For people who think O'Reilly is garbage, I mean.
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CNN just had a story about how his top advertiser is some outfit that sells gold. Apparently they're sticking around. Makes me wonder if O'Reilly can cobble together a team of advertisers similar to a blue-chip version of what Alex Jones uses. Survivalist stuff, weirdo health supplements, water purifiers and like that.
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I can't find it right now, but a few years ago there was a great article in the overlap between right wing news and scam marketing.


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Now that Bill O'Reilly is being abandoned by his advertisers, he is effectively finished. He will soon become a forgotten has-been like that loud-mouthed, talk-radio fat guy who fell into obscurity a few years ago.

Asta La Vista Bill!
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Originally Posted by Jules Galen View Post
Now that Bill O'Reilly is being abandoned by his advertisers, he is effectively finished. He will soon become a forgotten has-been like that loud-mouthed, talk-radio fat guy who fell into obscurity a few years ago.

Asta La Vista Bill!
Then again, characters like him are like Japanese Knotweed, notoriously difficult to get rid of.

If he can still attract some sponsors then he'll stay on FOX, else he'll find another channel.
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Then again, characters like him are like Japanese Knotweed, notoriously difficult to get rid of.

If he can still attract some sponsors then he'll stay on FOX, else he'll find another channel.
Maybe, but don't underestimate the aversion to liability. It's one thing to hire someone controversial, it's another to hire someone who will almost certainly get you sued for sexual harassment.
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Originally Posted by Civet View Post
CNN just had a story about how his top advertiser is some outfit that sells gold. Apparently they're sticking around. Makes me wonder if O'Reilly can cobble together a team of advertisers similar to a blue-chip version of what Alex Jones uses. Survivalist stuff, weirdo health supplements, water purifiers and like that.
Pretty much what Glenn Beck did. Problem is ,Fox will have to lower it's ad rates for those companies since they don't have the kind of money to spend that the big time sponsers that O Reilly is losing did.
Main reason for keeping O Reilly is the same reason they kept Beck around...as a locomotive..somebody who brings in a big audience that sticks around for other Fox shows. It has yet to be seen how these charges will impact O Reilly's ratings.
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However, those ratings don't matter one iota when there are no advertisers.
Not exactly true; depends on how many O Reilly viewers stick around for other Fox Shows. TV Networks spend a lot of time in scheduling shows in a way that a strong show can help a new or weaker show.
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If the ratings are high enough, someone will advertise. Maybe not the same folks who did before, but someone will fill that void.
Problem is the kind of companies that the show will pick up will not be able to pay the kind of ad rates that the ones who left did. The means Fox will have to charge lower rates, and that means less profit for Fox.
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She accused the host of withdrawing a job offer after she declined his invitation to go with him to his hotel suite after a dinner in 2013.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/b...suit.html?_r=0

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Ms. Walsh, speaking in Los Angeles, repeated the account she provided to The Times. She said that Mr. O’Reilly did not follow through on a verbal offer to make her a contributor to his show after she declined an invitation to go to his hotel suite after a 2013 dinner in Los Angeles that was arranged by his secretary. She has not received a settlement and said she does not want any money. She did not report her complaints to Fox News at the time, she said, because she did not want to jeopardize her career prospects.
Good luck with that.

Hey, maybe he's totally guilty, but after a company I worked for got sued by a female employee who claimed sexual harassment and a myriad of other things that she completely fabricated (and lost), I am skeptical.

People like her actually make it more difficult for legitimate cases to be tried.
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Her lawyer, Lisa Bloom, said Fox News was the "Bill Cosby of corporate America", in reference to the TV entertainer who is facing multiple sex assault claims.

Was Cosby convicted, I hadn't heard? I know that many women are treated improperly, but thanks to women like the one who sued my employer, I must remain highly skeptical.
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Old 7th April 2017, 04:27 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Then again, characters like him are like Japanese Knotweed, notoriously difficult to get rid of.

If he can still attract some sponsors then he'll stay on FOX, else he'll find another channel.
I agree. I don't think he'll disappear....just become irelavent and eventually forgotten.
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Originally Posted by Jules Galen View Post
Now that Bill O'Reilly is being abandoned by his advertisers, he is effectively finished. He will soon become a forgotten has-been like that loud-mouthed, talk-radio fat guy who fell into obscurity a few years ago.

Asta La Vista Bill!
I wish.
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Problem is the kind of companies that the show will pick up will not be able to pay the kind of ad rates that the ones who left did. The means Fox will have to charge lower rates, and that means less profit for Fox.
Agreed. Will they then lower his gigantic compensation?
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Agreed. Will they then lower his gigantic compensation?
Depends on the terms of his contract.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/b...suit.html?_r=0



Good luck with that.

Hey, maybe he's totally guilty, but after a company I worked for got sued by a female employee who claimed sexual harassment and a myriad of other things that she completely fabricated (and lost), I am skeptical.

People like her actually make it more difficult for legitimate cases to be tried.



Was Cosby convicted, I hadn't heard? I know that many women are treated improperly, but thanks to women like the one who sued my employer, I must remain highly skeptical.
When you get multiple woman claiming the same thing the odds of a fake claim drop.
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Depends on the terms of his contract.
They just renewed it which has to be placing some bad incentives on them to keep him.
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Wow they renewed his contract the same day the NYT article published and just a day or two before the major advertisers started pulling out. I'm guessing Rupert Murdoch has been rather grumpy this week.
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Wow they renewed his contract the same day the NYT article published and just a day or two before the major advertisers started pulling out. I'm guessing Rupert Murdoch has been rather grumpy this week.
Unless their lawyers are incompetent, I'm sure there's a way out. They certainly can't go with any morals clause, though, since they signed him while knowing the score...which is great news for anyone else with a case to make as the company can't pretend they were unaware in order to get off the hook in future lawsuits.
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I wish.
Have hope, friend!

Hey...it's not like Bill is going to go into obscurity overnight, but the stage has been set for him to pretty-quickly fade away.

See...there's hope.
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Unless their lawyers are incompetent, I'm sure there's a way out. They certainly can't go with any morals clause, though, since they signed him while knowing the score...which is great news for anyone else with a case to make as the company can't pretend they were unaware in order to get off the hook in future lawsuits.
The interesting wrinkle is that much like with Bill Cosby this isn't new information about Bill O'Reilly. This has been an ongoing problem with O'Reilly for a long time. Fox knew what they were getting when they renewed the contract.
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The interesting wrinkle is that much like with Bill Cosby this isn't new information about Bill O'Reilly. This has been an ongoing problem with O'Reilly for a long time. Fox knew what they were getting when they renewed the contract.
Pure greed isn't that interesting. The bottom line is the only thing that matters to some people. That applies to Cosby as well; people who knew had their own interests to look after, and decided those interests were more important than helping potential victims.
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Pure greed isn't that interesting. The bottom line is the only thing that matters to some people. That applies to Cosby as well; people who knew had their own interests to look after, and decided those interests were more important than helping potential victims.
And of course for most of his career there he could trade dating tips with his boss. It sounds like he and Ailes ran with the same playbook.
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“according to four network sources, there’s talk inside Fox News that tonight’s show could be his last”
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CNN just had a story about how his top advertiser is some outfit that sells gold. Apparently they're sticking around. Makes me wonder if O'Reilly can cobble together a team of advertisers similar to a blue-chip version of what Alex Jones uses. Survivalist stuff, weirdo health supplements, water purifiers and like that.
I don't watch his show. But still, if I had to guess, I would have guessed that the top advertiser was someone selling gold. Apparently lots of old white people will buy gold if the TV tells them to.
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Gold was also a huge thing for Glen Beck. It seems that the right wing have this obsession with the economy crashing and everyone needing gold to buy things in the new economy.
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Gold was also a huge thing for Glen Beck. It seems that the right wing have this obsession with the economy crashing and everyone needing gold to buy things in the new economy.
They are just especially susceptible to scams.
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I agree. I don't think he'll disappear....just become irelavent and eventually forgotten.
As will we all
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Gold was also a huge thing for Glen Beck. It seems that the right wing have this obsession with the economy crashing and everyone needing gold to buy things in the new economy.
Even some legitimate bullion companies have started pandering to this odd mythology. Valcambi now sells these sheets of breakaway 1-gram gold tabs, a form factor that has no practical purpose except within the prepper daydream of gold-as-liquid-asset rather than what it actually is nowadays.
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Unless their lawyers are incompetent, I'm sure there's a way out. They certainly can't go with any morals clause, though, since they signed him while knowing the score...which is great news for anyone else with a case to make as the company can't pretend they were unaware in order to get off the hook in future lawsuits.
Almost every contract in Television has a "morals" clause where if the guy doe something that hurts the companies image he can be fired.
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Almost every contract in Television has a "morals" clause where if the guy doe something that hurts the companies image he can be fired.
Yes, but they would have a difficult time enforcing the clause (without losing a lawsuit) for something that a) happened previous to the current contract and b) they knew about prior to signing the current contract.
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One of these women is said to have phone recordings and perhaps why O'Reilly didnt fight it out on court as Trump suggests he should have.
Has everyone forgotten the [paraphrasing] "I want to grab your tits in the shower" recorded phone call?

Bill O'Reilly Falafel Lawsuit Turns Ten
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On this date in 2004, Bill O’Reilly was accused of sexual harassment by Andrea Mackris, an associate producer who worked with the TV host at Fox News Channel. Mackris’s New York State Supreme Court complaint is bursting with examples of the 65-year-old O’Reilly’s alleged sleaziness (which apparently was surreptitiously memorialized via Mackris’s tape recorder)....

A decade later, Mackris’s complaint--filed by attorney Benedict Morelli--remains a better read than any of O’Reilly’s subsequent best sellers. Mainly because the lawsuit includes topics such as:

Vibrators
Masturbation lessons
Phone sex
A “short brown” Balinese woman who allegedly was “amazed” when she saw O’Reilly’s penis
Threesomes
The loss of O’Reilly’s virginity in a car at JFK airport
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Al Franken
O’Reilly’s masturbation
O’Reilly’s climaxing
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The reference to 'better than O'Reilly's book' is in reference to a cheesy porn novel he wrote that contained a lot of the same fantasies he discussed in the recorded phone calls.
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Allegations come in, advertisers go out. You can't explain that!
Awesome! Best laugh for me this week, thanks.
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Yes, but they would have a difficult time enforcing the clause (without losing a lawsuit) for something that a) happened previous to the current contract and b) they knew about prior to signing the current contract.
Upon fully reading the NYT article that kicked this all off I now realize that a new complaint has been filed against O'Reilly by a guest on his show, Wendy Walsh, so Fox may have an easy out if they want it.
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
Yes, but they would have a difficult time enforcing the clause (without losing a lawsuit) for something that a) happened previous to the current contract and b) they knew about prior to signing the current contract.
I am pretty sure the morals clause was in every contract that O Reilly signed, since that clause has been SOP in every contract in television since the 1950's.
If Fox wants to get rid of O Reilly, they can find some legal way to do it. Of that I am sure. I think every TV contract gives the network an out.
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