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Ossoff is at 55% with half the vote in/Georgia special election
If he stays above 50% he'll win without a runoff.
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Where are the Russian hackers when the Republicans need them?
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With electronic, unverifiable voting, don't hold your breath. This is the same election committee that decided that it wasn't a big deal when they were hacked last time.
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Can he win a runoff?
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It'd be very close, but yes, depending on more stupid crap coming from Trump. His robocall was full of the same wolf crying as his whole election and that truly is wearing thin on people. Of course it should have worn thin after the GOP Primary so who knows?
Ossoff is actually very intelligent, a convincing politician, someone to watch. |
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It's just a hair over 50% now. It's gonna be REALLY close to avoid a runoff.
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No new results have come in for quite a while. Still at 50.3%.
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Currently at 48.6%
According to Nate Cohn, "There's around 15k GOP-leaning vote left. I'd guess that brings Ossoff down to around 47.7 when it's all through." |
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Sigh, well, at least there's still the runoff.
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Apparently there was a bad data card that stopped counting for a while. Counting has resumed, and it's looking like a runoff. Crap.
I'm NOT looking forward to this dominating the local media cycle for the next couple of months. |
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...okay: I've finally gotten my head around the electoral college. Now you 'Mercan's need to be explaining this further for the rest of us. You need to get over 50% to avoid a "run off?" Why is that? Are all House Seats elected this way?
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No, just this one. And it has nothing to do with the EC, just Georgia's special election rules.
The rest of the time, the parties would have nominated the candidates so there would only be one Democrat and one Republican candidate. In some cases like this one a governor would just appoint the replacement. |
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...I know this had nothing to do with the electoral college: what I meant is I've finally gotten my head around the ridiculous electoral college.
![]() So can we back up a bit? These rules are Georgia specific, and only for a special election? Why are only two possible candidates? What stops an independent candidate running? Why 50%? And how do you guys just know this stuff? |
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It's usually called a "jungle primary" and some states have it as a rule for the normal elections as well. For instance, the California Senate seat that was up for election last November, was contested between two Democrats because they came ahead out of the jungle primary.
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... it also means the Republicans have two more months to
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Yes, Georgia specific.
If this were the regular year election (All House members up for election every 2 years), Independents could run. The Ds and Rs would put up their candidates chosen in primary elections. Special elections are held when a member of Congress (Senate or House) leaves office before the term is up. Then it is up to state rules how that seat is filled. In this case, Georgia has an election where if anyone gets >50%, they win the seat. If no one does (as happened tonight), then there is a runoff of the top two. |
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It's really tiresome, isn't it. When are the voters going to wise up to this repeating strategy?
Or, when are the Democrats going to figure out how you counter the crap? In this case, I hear (haven't verified) that Ossoff grew up in this district. The GOP is harping on his not living in the district. (Not sure what Georgia rules are.) So Ossoff needs to emphasize this is his home turf. I don't know his background, but listening to him, he's one smart guy. That needs to be marketed. |
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This being such a pivotal vote, the Democratic Party will undoubtedly pour all their efforts and money into his campaign.
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It could still be interesting.
The GOP mud-slinging will consist of him being a carpetbagger, which could stick to an extent. It will also consist of the type of stuff the Orange Buffoon tweeted, which probably won't mean a thing. Handel's a bona fide political hack and will run on her credentials as "an independent gal" as she calls herself, but her positions read like a I Heart Donald candidate. In a district that Trump nearly lost, Ossoff could take it. The two top GOP candidates in the vote were both Trump-ish Republicans - Handel didn't run for anything on Trump's coattails but she's a typical Georgia reactionary: anti-abortion, tried to defund Planned Parenthood, pro-wall, cutting waste(read: drain the swamp).... I think either she or Gray are a lock for the conservative vote - the question is how many moderate Republicans might be in the district. A sufficient number of them held their noses long enough to vote for Hillary. |
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There's possibly more dirt on this kid still to come, but all I heard yesterday was that they accused him of padding his resume a tad... something about how much responsibility he actually had on issues/policy development in whatever political office he previously staffed.
Unfortunately, if there was follow up (and details) I missed it. And haven't bothered to look into it. Oppo takes a little time... I figured, if it's there, we'll all be hearing about it soon. But as a non local, this felt pretty fast. Am I wrong? |
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Lol
No actually it will be about Assoff being LIBERAL! This is a red state! And of course the left is looking at this as a win, lol, as they always do with losses. So once again, I really hate to say it, the leftists lost again!!! When in the hell is your side going to win? ![]() |
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Which is of course the point... A liberal running in a 'red state', in a seat that had been easily won by the republicans in the past, almost manages to get a majority vote.
If voters who have traditionally voted republican in the past look at Trump and the current makeup of Congress and say "Maybe I don't want this", then it can have an effect on future elections.
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Mr. Ossof can look at it as a win as he got more votes then any of the other candidates. Based on how democracy generally works, that would normally have handed him the victory.
That being said, for some reason the State of Georgia feels that if a candidate in this sort of election can't just win the popular vote but must beat all of the losers combined, then the worst of the losing candidates are eliminated and the loser has another chance, because maybe the loser's team is more popular then the winner's. |
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I'm struggling to understand how this relates to what you quoted.
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