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Old 10th April 2020, 04:52 AM   #1
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Coronavirus, Dr. Fauci, Bill Gates and the “Deep State”

This post hit my Facebook feed from a friend in N Georgia this morning. I know it’s long, but out here in the boonies we hear similar takes on the Coronavirus.

I wonder why Fauci was so quick to want to shutdown the booming Trump economy all across the nation, why He wants to keep it down for months and months, why He is resisting the drugs that doctors say are proving effective treatment already, why He made funny faces behind Trumps back when the President mentioned “Deep State,” and why the liberal media freaked out when they didn’t see Fauci on stage.... I wonder....

FACTS OR THEORY?

This whole pandemic and shutdown has been very bizarre but here are some more facts that makes you think, “what in the world is going on here?”

Fact 1. The Covid19 virus likely came from bats - the intermediate horseshoe bat.

Facts 2. It’s reported that the Chinese Wet Markets were not selling bats before the outbreak. As Tucker Carlson reported, “there are no known colonies [of the bat] within 900 kilometers of Wuhan”

Fact 3. There are two labs right next to the Wuhan wet markets. The Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Fact 4. It is reported that these Wuhan Labs did have horseshoe bats as the Chinese Government Researchers were studying them and their viruses.

Fact 5. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is run by the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

Fact 6. Bill Gates, who is said to have “predicted” an outbreak years ago, is one of the biggest donors to the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was awarded their highest honor.

Fact 7. Bill Gates has advocated for “an extreme shutdown” of the economy “indefinitely” until there is a vaccine and is investing “billions” into developing a vaccine for covid19.

Fact 8. Certain medical experts, like Dr Ezekiel Emmanuel (A Joe Biden advisor and Obamacare Architect) have been saying that the economy cannot return to normal until the population is mass vaccinated 18 months from now.

Fact 9. Dr Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who walked into the Oval Office and told President Trump to shutdown the economy, has a very close and long time relationship with Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation, as the Gates Foundation are big donors to Fauci’s Institution. He also is a deep state Obama Hillary supporter.

Fact 10. Hydroxychloroquine is an old Malaria drug that has been seen to be effective treatment against Covid19. Lupus patients take this drug and have not been infected with COVID19. Countries that fight Malaria and take this drug have also not had any Covid19 outbreaks.

Fact 11. Doctors who prescribe Hydroxychloroquine say this is a very safe drug at the doses prescribe and has zero risks for short term use - like treating COVID19.

Fact 12. Despite the on field testimony of doctors who have been using Hydroxychloroquine to treat covid19 with great effectiveness, Dr Fauci has been very much opposed to the use of this drug and is still pushing for a long term economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.

Fact 13. Bill Gates has also opposed hydroxychloroquine as “unproven” treatment for Covid19 and continues to push for a long economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.

Fact 14. Bill Gates already started the process of getting a vaccine approved because he already had one somehow shortly after the outbreak began, so he is confident that in 18 months we will have a vaccine.

Fact 15. So the man who wants to sell the world the vaccine for this virus has ties to the Wuhan lab where this virus likely originated.

I’m not interested in unprovable conspiracy theories. These are just some facts.

If I were to speculate, it seems to me that they were experimenting on the coronavirus at the Wuhan labs, it got out either by accident or on purpose, and they already have a vaccine they are now waiting to get approved.

Rather than take responsibility and liability for this escape from their lab, which would be incalculable, they are going to sell the vaccine and make a fortune off the world.

Additional Facts: a global economic collapse would be the perfect scenario for the the long desired establishment of a one world socialist government - new world order. Collapse the global economy so that the government and World Bank (IMF) can rebuild it. Communist China would love to buy up our bankrupt industries and businesses. They have been buying our economy for decades. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Health Organization (WHO) are both heavily involved in this crisis and are both departments of a World Government. Bill Gates is also one of the biggest donors to the World Health Organization. Besides Covid19, Gates is also involved in the Climate Change propaganda, another crisis to usher in a one world government. And selling a vaccine for a global pandemic would provide more needed funds to establish a one world order.

This virus is perfect for communism, as it targets the weak and elderly (those who are a drag on the socialist systems, pulling out more than they are putting in) while leaving the vast majority of the young and healthy and strong alone (to continue to labor and produce).

President Trump would be seriously messing up their plans by pushing for Hydroxychloroquine as a medical treatment that would help our hospitals from being overwhelmed (the reason given for the economic shutdown), by pushing for the economy to reopen ASAP, and now threatening to defund the World Health Organization for promoting Chinese propaganda during this pandemic that downplayed the virus, enabling the virus to spread globally. Now the director of W.H.O. issued a severe threat of “many body bags” if Trump cut off their funding.

Even today in his interview, Bill Gates advocated for a long economic shutdown until there is a vaccine, despite all that is now known about the low mortality rate of the virus for most people.

Dr. Fauci is either stupid and thinks shutting down the global economy for a virus that has a 99.3% survival rate, for months and months until there is a possible vaccine, is the best course of action, or he has evil intent. Bought off by the vaccine industry? By Bill Gates? That would be speculating. But he is either stupid or he has ill intent. As the data keeps coming out showing how this virus is little to no threat to most people, Fauci needs to either adjust his strategy for dealing with it or else he has an obvious conflict of interest somewhere. And Dr Fauci is said to be an icon in the medical world so he is not stupid. But that would mean....

President Trump needs to declare May 1st as The National Get Back To Work Day! This would help prevent a global economic collapse and prevent any possible plans to rebuild a new world order of global socialism.

Pray for our President.
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Fact 10. Hydroxychloroquine is an old Malaria drug that has been seen to be effective treatment against Covid19.
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Lupus patients take this drug and have not been infected with COVID19.
https://creakyjoints.org/symptoms/lu...t-coronavirus/


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Countries that fight Malaria and take this drug have also not had any Covid19 outbreaks.
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What a mix of facts, misinformation and speculation.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
This post hit my Facebook feed from a friend in N Georgia this morning. I know it’s long, but out here in the boonies we hear similar takes on the Coronavirus.

I wonder why Fauci was so quick to want to shutdown the booming Trump economy all across the nation, why He wants to keep it down for months and months, why He is resisting the drugs that doctors say are proving effective treatment already, why He made funny faces behind Trumps back when the President mentioned “Deep State,” and why the liberal media freaked out when they didn’t see Fauci on stage.... I wonder....

FACTS OR THEORY?

This whole pandemic and shutdown has been very bizarre but here are some more facts that makes you think, “what in the world is going on here?”

Fact 1. The Covid19 virus likely came from bats - the intermediate horseshoe bat.

Facts 2. It’s reported that the Chinese Wet Markets were not selling bats before the outbreak. As Tucker Carlson reported, “there are no known colonies [of the bat] within 900 kilometers of Wuhan”

Fact 3. There are two labs right next to the Wuhan wet markets. The Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

Fact 4. It is reported that these Wuhan Labs did have horseshoe bats as the Chinese Government Researchers were studying them and their viruses.

Fact 5. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is run by the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

Fact 6. Bill Gates, who is said to have “predicted” an outbreak years ago, is one of the biggest donors to the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was awarded their highest honor.

Fact 7. Bill Gates has advocated for “an extreme shutdown” of the economy “indefinitely” until there is a vaccine and is investing “billions” into developing a vaccine for covid19.

Fact 8. Certain medical experts, like Dr Ezekiel Emmanuel (A Joe Biden advisor and Obamacare Architect) have been saying that the economy cannot return to normal until the population is mass vaccinated 18 months from now.

Fact 9. Dr Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who walked into the Oval Office and told President Trump to shutdown the economy, has a very close and long time relationship with Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation, as the Gates Foundation are big donors to Fauci’s Institution. He also is a deep state Obama Hillary supporter.

Fact 10. Hydroxychloroquine is an old Malaria drug that has been seen to be effective treatment against Covid19. Lupus patients take this drug and have not been infected with COVID19. Countries that fight Malaria and take this drug have also not had any Covid19 outbreaks.

Fact 11. Doctors who prescribe Hydroxychloroquine say this is a very safe drug at the doses prescribe and has zero risks for short term use - like treating COVID19.

Fact 12. Despite the on field testimony of doctors who have been using Hydroxychloroquine to treat covid19 with great effectiveness, Dr Fauci has been very much opposed to the use of this drug and is still pushing for a long term economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.

Fact 13. Bill Gates has also opposed hydroxychloroquine as “unproven” treatment for Covid19 and continues to push for a long economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.

Fact 14. Bill Gates already started the process of getting a vaccine approved because he already had one somehow shortly after the outbreak began, so he is confident that in 18 months we will have a vaccine.

Fact 15. So the man who wants to sell the world the vaccine for this virus has ties to the Wuhan lab where this virus likely originated.

I’m not interested in unprovable conspiracy theories. These are just some facts.
If I were to speculate, it seems to me that they were experimenting on the coronavirus at the Wuhan labs, it got out either by accident or on purpose, and they already have a vaccine they are now waiting to get approved.

Rather than take responsibility and liability for this escape from their lab, which would be incalculable, they are going to sell the vaccine and make a fortune off the world.

Additional Facts: a global economic collapse would be the perfect scenario for the the long desired establishment of a one world socialist government - new world order. Collapse the global economy so that the government and World Bank (IMF) can rebuild it. Communist China would love to buy up our bankrupt industries and businesses. They have been buying our economy for decades. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Health Organization (WHO) are both heavily involved in this crisis and are both departments of a World Government. Bill Gates is also one of the biggest donors to the World Health Organization. Besides Covid19, Gates is also involved in the Climate Change propaganda, another crisis to usher in a one world government. And selling a vaccine for a global pandemic would provide more needed funds to establish a one world order.

This virus is perfect for communism, as it targets the weak and elderly (those who are a drag on the socialist systems, pulling out more than they are putting in) while leaving the vast majority of the young and healthy and strong alone (to continue to labor and produce).

President Trump would be seriously messing up their plans by pushing for Hydroxychloroquine as a medical treatment that would help our hospitals from being overwhelmed (the reason given for the economic shutdown), by pushing for the economy to reopen ASAP, and now threatening to defund the World Health Organization for promoting Chinese propaganda during this pandemic that downplayed the virus, enabling the virus to spread globally. Now the director of W.H.O. issued a severe threat of “many body bags” if Trump cut off their funding.

Even today in his interview, Bill Gates advocated for a long economic shutdown until there is a vaccine, despite all that is now known about the low mortality rate of the virus for most people.

Dr. Fauci is either stupid and thinks shutting down the global economy for a virus that has a 99.3% survival rate, for months and months until there is a possible vaccine, is the best course of action, or he has evil intent. Bought off by the vaccine industry? By Bill Gates? That would be speculating. But he is either stupid or he has ill intent. As the data keeps coming out showing how this virus is little to no threat to most people, Fauci needs to either adjust his strategy for dealing with it or else he has an obvious conflict of interest somewhere. And Dr Fauci is said to be an icon in the medical world so he is not stupid. But that would mean....

President Trump needs to declare May 1st as The National Get Back To Work Day! This would help prevent a global economic collapse and prevent any possible plans to rebuild a new world order of global socialism.

Pray for our President.
These are only facts if you accept that the world is flat and 2 + 2 = 5.

Some are demonstrably untrue. Some are based on an appeal to authority with no evidence of competence e.g. could you evidence Tucker Carlson's expertise on the ecology and biology of Chinese bats?

I put it to you that the US intelligence agencies were aware of the outbreak of a novel corona virus before the Chinese authorities were. That the US has been carrying out research on this type of virus and a US military research program had developed a drug that is thought to be highly effective against SARS-CoV-2 even before it had first appeared (redesivir). This clamp down on public meetings just before the election favours an incumbent president over a challenger. that it provided a huge boost to arms sales and assisted the NRA just at a time that arms sales were falling. Boeing was in financial difficulties because of the 737 max debacle now it can repurpose its manufacturing towards ventilators. Is it any co-incidence that Boeing and Microsoft which provides the funding for the activities of the Gates foundation are in the same state. The state where the first outbreak of Covid occurred? The same state where Amanda Knox is resident. Clearly this is all a diabolical scheme by AK to revenge herself which is why Italy has been so badly affected.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post

President Trump needs to declare May 1st as The National Get Back To Work Day! This would help prevent a global economic collapse and prevent any possible plans to rebuild a new world order of global socialism.

Pray for our President.[/i]
Interesting Trump chose May 1st or International Workers day. A day recognized and celebrated by communist and socialist across the globe.

Trump also distrust our nations intelligence agencies.

He prefers to take advice and instruction from Russia.

Trump uses Chinese propaganda tactics to attack his rivals and those that disagree with him.

Trump admires authoritarian governments like Russia, China, North Korea.

Trump plans to use the current Covid-19 pandemic and shut down of the economy to usher in a plan of State control and takeover of all aspects of American life and industry and install himself permanently as dictator of the new Communist Republic of America.

Is that how this works? LOL
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Fact. He keeps using that word. I don't think it means what he thinks it means.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
I wonder why Fauci was so quick to want to shutdown the booming Trump economy all across the nation, why He wants to keep it down for months and months, why He is resisting the drugs that doctors say are proving effective treatment already, why He made funny faces behind Trumps back when the President mentioned “Deep State,” and why the liberal media freaked out when they didn’t see Fauci on stage.... I wonder....

I think I know this one:
Dr. Fauci was trying to hide an expression of despair at Trump's insane incompetence and paranoia. That is why his face looked funny. He didn't do it deliberately.
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Pray for our President.[/i]
Yes, pray for the insane guy making up BS: BS like this... better yet, remove the president, darn, missed that chance. Watching the virus updates is torture, clownstick talking and cutting off female reporters - where is his sharpie

Maybe the BS come from here.
https://biblicaltruthresources.wordp...es-connection/

Which leads to this bad source of facts, but great source of woo

https://www.facebook.com/JesseWMorrell/

https://www.facebook.com/JesseWMorre...216?__tn__=K-R

Jesse Morrell claims BS are facts. Paranoid about the coming of the NWO, we have Jesse Morrell preaching BS.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news...-michael-brown

Jesse Morrell is anti a lot of stuff, homophobic racist is a possibility.

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Fact 10. Hydroxychloroquine is an old Malaria drug that has been seen to be effective treatment against Covid19. Lupus patients take this drug and have not been infected with COVID19. Countries that fight Malaria and take this drug have also not had any Covid19 outbreaks.
Three lies/false claims in one fact - that is what is called a "trump fact".

Some of these "facts", aka lies, are similar to what trump has been saying. Is Jesse repeating trump's lies. Got to stop researching idiotic FB posts which expose the poster as gullible and stupid.
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This virus is perfect for communism capitalism, as it targets the weak and elderly (those who are a drag on the socialist systems, pulling out more than they are putting in economically unproductive) while leaving the vast majority of the young and healthy and strong alone (to continue to labor and produce).

Works equally well for capitalism. Depends what pre-determined conclusion you are trying to support, I guess.
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"As Tucker Carlson reported" is a hilarious line.
Of all the nonsense here, that one stuck out for me too.
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This virus is perfect for communism capitalism, as it targets the weak and elderly (those who are a drag on the socialist systems, pulling out more than they are putting in economically unproductive) while leaving the vast majority of the young and healthy and strong alone (to continue to labor and produce).
Works equally well for capitalism. Depends what pre-determined conclusion you are trying to support, I guess.

It actually works so much better for capitalism and not at all for communism:

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The complete paragraph containing Marx's statement of the creed in the Critique of the Gotha Program is as follows:
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In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly—only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!
From each according to his ability to each according to his needs (Wikipedia)

Otherwise, it's impossible to explain these U.S. American patriotic ... communists????

Texas Lt. Governor: Old People Should Volunteer to Die to Save the Economy (Vanity Fair, March 24, 2020)

Coronavirus has Donald Trump and Dan Patrick ready to sacrifice older people (NBC News, March 26, 2020)

Politicians who consider sacrificing the old for the sake of the economy face a backlash (CBC, March 26, 2020)
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Fact 1. The Covid19 virus likely came from bats - the intermediate horseshoe bat.
Nope. Much more likely it was from pangolins than bats.

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Facts 2. It’s reported that the Chinese Wet Markets were not selling bats before the outbreak. As Tucker Carlson reported, “there are no known colonies [of the bat] within 900 kilometers of Wuhan”
I'm sure Tucker Carlson is the world's leading chiropterologist. LOL.

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Fact 3. There are two labs right next to the Wuhan wet markets. The Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
There are not. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is over 2kms away, across a river.

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Fact 4. It is reported that these Wuhan Labs did have horseshoe bats as the Chinese Government Researchers were studying them and their viruses.
By who?

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Fact 5. The Wuhan Institute of Virology is run by the Chinese Academy of Sciences.
The CAS runs a LOT of institutes and research labs across China.

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Fact 6. Bill Gates, who is said to have “predicted” an outbreak years ago, is one of the biggest donors to the Chinese Academy of Sciences and was awarded their highest honor.
Who said?

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Fact 7. Bill Gates has advocated for “an extreme shutdown” of the economy “indefinitely” until there is a vaccine and is investing “billions” into developing a vaccine for covid19.
Yes, USA nationwide. Like most other successful countries are doing.

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Fact 8. Certain medical experts, like Dr Ezekiel Emmanuel (A Joe Biden advisor and Obamacare Architect) have been saying that the economy cannot return to normal until the population is mass vaccinated 18 months from now.
Here's what he really said: Realistically, COVID-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more. We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications.

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Fact 9. Dr Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who walked into the Oval Office and told President Trump to shutdown the economy, has a very close and long time relationship with Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation, as the Gates Foundation are big donors to Fauci’s Institution. He also is a deep state Obama Hillary supporter.
Horse-****. Dr Fauci has been employed in his current position since the Reagan presidency. He did not "walk into the Oval Office". Trump invited him as head of the Institute responsible for the national COVID response.

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Fact 10. Hydroxychloroquine is an old Malaria drug that has been seen to be effective treatment against Covid19. Lupus patients take this drug and have not been infected with COVID19. Countries that fight Malaria and take this drug have also not had any Covid19 outbreaks.
Plenty of evidence it is not effective at all but dangerous instead. The other claims are more horse-****, as can be found easily online.

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Fact 11. Doctors who prescribe Hydroxychloroquine say this is a very safe drug at the doses prescribe and has zero risks for short term use - like treating COVID19.
More horse-****. It's officially dangerous.

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Fact 12. Despite the on field testimony of doctors who have been using Hydroxychloroquine to treat covid19 with great effectiveness, Dr Fauci has been very much opposed to the use of this drug and is still pushing for a long term economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.
Even more horse-****. Was the recommending doctor named Tucker Carlson or Shaun Hannity by any chance?

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Fact 13. Bill Gates has also opposed hydroxychloroquine as “unproven” treatment for Covid19 and continues to push for a long economic shutdown until there is a vaccine.
Jesus on a pogo-stick, MORE horse-****. The Gates Foundation is actually funding millions to investigate hyroxychloroquine.

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Fact 14. Bill Gates already started the process of getting a vaccine approved because he already had one somehow shortly after the outbreak began, so he is confident that in 18 months we will have a vaccine.
Which is why they are funding alternative cures. That makes a LOT of sense.

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Fact 15. So the man who wants to sell the world the vaccine for this virus has ties to the Wuhan lab where this virus likely originated.
....wha??? Only if you play word-association games with your own spurious claims. This is not even Seven Degrees of Kevin Bacon close.
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FOund a truther on Twitter who wont beleive figures of the dead until he can see bodies.

Same old same old.NO bodies=fake Bodies=fake.
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Fact 1. The Covid19 virus likely came from bats - the intermediate horseshoe bat...



OK, wait a minute. How do we know that there aren't any professional horseshoe bats? Now granted, given the size of your average bat and the size of your average horseshoe I imagine the washout rate for beginners is pretty high, so we (probably) don't have to worry about any of those. But the professionals ...?!
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Well, you see, the better horseshoe bats are called greater, the best are called king. Intermediate horseshoe bats still rank above the lesser and least horseshoe bats. Not sure where the eloquent and convex horseshoe bats fit in though.
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Old 15th April 2020, 12:20 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Azrael 5 View Post
FOund a truther on Twitter who wont beleive figures of the dead until he can see bodies.

Same old same old.NO bodies=fake Bodies=fake.
One of those who, if they are not careful, will become one. Same as a bunch of snake-handler-type preachers who defied distancing "because God will protect his own".
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Well, you see, the better horseshoe bats are called greater, the best are called king. Intermediate horseshoe bats still rank above the lesser and least horseshoe bats. Not sure where the eloquent and convex horseshoe bats fit in though.
Thanks for that. Comparing the two outlines of the Pearson's Horseshoe Bat and the European free-tailed bat (respectively) on this wiki page, I see that the Pearson's Horseshoe Bat looks exactly like Satan™ and the European free-tailed bat looks like Mickey Mouse™ (if he were a bat instead of a mouse). Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Thanks for that. Comparing the two outlines of the Pearson's Horseshoe Bat and the European free-tailed bat (respectively) on this wiki page, I see that the Pearson's Horseshoe Bat looks exactly like Satan™ and the European free-tailed bat looks like Mickey Mouse™ (if he were a bat instead of a mouse). Thoughts?
The difference can be accounted for by Satan having dominion over closeness, which as you know only counts counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. The association between free-tailing and Mickey should be rather self-explanatory.
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Well, you see, the better horseshoe bats are called greater, the best are called king. Intermediate horseshoe bats still rank above the lesser and least horseshoe bats. Not sure where the eloquent and convex horseshoe bats fit in though.
Well those speak for themselves.
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