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24th February 2018, 11:59 AM | #81 |
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25th February 2018, 02:26 AM | #82 |
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Your speculation tends to be more informed rather than wild. However, I do tone down some of the background, the outwardly spectacular "perfect storm" and future intent of suicide.
To me, Peter Madsen was predisposed to paraphilia. That's my take on the background. He invited a female on board his submarine in the same way some guys invite a female into their car. Kim Wall (eventually) accepted the offer solely for professional reason. She was a journalist on journalist assignment. Her boyfriend decided not to board Madsen's submarine. Seems they trusted each other and Madsen. Madsen's fantasy of a female accepting his invitation to be alone with him in his submarine became reality. Madsen let his fantasy go further. Ms. Wall rejected Madsen's further intention. Madsen's fantasy blurred with his predisposition to paraphelia. Ms. Wall is dismembered. Fantasy over. Madsen re-enters the public eye. No intention of suicide. As each excuse he makes is dismissed another excuse pops-up. Just wondering. Why the trip had to commence at sunset? What moon it was that night? |
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He wasn't and isn't rich!
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That wasn't the first time he had women onboard the submarine. Deirdre King, a U.S. citizen living in Copenhagen, had had sex with him there. Immediately after the crime, she still believed that he was innocent. Now she suspects that he may have intended for her to become the (or maybe a) victim. Neue Zürcher Zeitung (Feb. 23, 2018) Ekstra Bladet (Feb. 24, 2018) Ekstra Bladet (Sep. 9, 2017) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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PS Peter Madsen reveals: Is into SM and has had sex with several women onboard the submarine (Lokalavisen, Sep. 17, 2017)
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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"He is not violent, he does not drink, does not take drugs. He is a man of healthy values. On the other hand, he is quarrels with everybody, "says Thomas Djursing. (...) Peter Madsen has always had big dreams. He has never understood that ordinary people can find satisfaction in ordinary work. "In the long run, I hope to have a career in crime. Not that I want to rob a bank. Hell no, it shouldn’t harm anybody," he said to Søndagsavisen in 2014. But he would like to make a happening of 'gigantic proportions'. In my opinion, his size may have been what kept him from becoming a full-blown violent psychopath until ... |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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I notice that the scavengers are descending. Currently, his ex-GF is having her fifteen minutes of fame spilling juicy details of his/their sex-life.
I don't pity him, but ... tasteless it is. Hans |
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Well, it's impossible to any more tasteless than Peter Madsen.
And most of his former acquaintances are probably pretending that they never really knew him all that well ... and never participated in his Nazi games ... |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Turning towards the trial, with the first day being on this coming thursday. I assume that's for various technicalities surrounding the trial, as there's then a two week gap before the next set of court dates.
However, due to an impending labour conflict (strikes have already been announced, with lock-outs presumably due to follow), the case might grind to a halt after easter, as various members of the court staff has been selected for strike action. |
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Well, probably not ill in the eyes of the law.
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No, and it's very similar what happened when famous TV psychic Graham Bishop tried to kill his daughters: TV-clairvoyant vil erklæres sindssyg efter drabsforsøg på sine tvillinger (Ekstra Bladet, Dec. 18, 2012). For some reason, all the amateur psychics stopped advertising that they had had Graham Bishop as a teacher of their 'craft' ... I would have declared him insane the first time I saw him on TV channelling his spirit guide Dr. Karl: Father sentenced to eleven years in prison and deportation for assault on his twin daughters (CPH Post, Nov. 20, 2013) Graham Bishop channelling Dr. Karl (begins at 4:28):
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They (Retslægerådet) don't seem to think that he's clinically insane, but ...
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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I think it's expected to be over this month. They begin tomorrow.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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I was wrong about the length of the trial. Here it says April 25: Denmark braces for one of most gruesome murder trials in its history (CNN, Mar. 7, 2018)
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Danish inventor goes on trial for murder of journalist Kim Wall (Guardian, Mar. 8, 2018)
Kim Wall death: Inventor Peter Madsen goes on trial (BBC News, Mar. 8, 2018) 10 ting du skal vide inden ’Ubådssagen’ begynder (Ekstra Bladet, Mar. 8, 2018) LIVE: Nu starter retssagen mod Peter Madsen (Ekstra Bladet, Mar. 8, 2018) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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This looks like a ripping yarn. Extremely sad for the woman's family.
He is so obviously guilty it beggars belief that a 3 panel might acquit. Coincidence is a problem for statisticians, but a man who feels dismembering is the appropriate response for an accident, and also has video of real killings on his computer breaks new ground in coincidence theory. |
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He still seems to claim that Kim Wall was killed by carbon monoxide poisoning, "exhaust from the engines," not by the hatch injuring her directly. I don't know if coroners are able to debunk this explanation by examining the body, but I assume exhaust gasses would leave traces in human tissue.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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My translation: ”The mental examination of Peter Madsen states that he appears to be extremely unreliable, and it is difficult to get a true insight into his sex life. In the conclusion, which the prosecutor briefly referred to when presenting the case, he is described as 'polymorph' and appears to be extremely sexually deviant. It also says that he is intelligent, but exhibits narcissistic and psychopathic traits. Furthermore he is described as glib with superficial charm, a pathological liar, emotionally impaired and with a severe lack of empathy and remorse.” That’s the textbook definition of severe narcissistic psychopathy. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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His defence is falling apart as fast as Shipman's did when they started to look at the time stamps on his computer entries.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Submariner Peter Madsen says toxic fumes killed journalist (BBC News, Mar. 8, 2018)
Peter Madsen says his account of journalist’s death changed because he wanted to spare her relatives the detail (Guardian, Mar. 8, 2018) Danish inventor Peter Madsen pleads not guilty to murder (CNN, Mar. 8, 2018) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Peter Madsen has narcissistic and psychopathic traits. He shows no signs of remorse and compassion. He is a pervert and a sexual deviant. Dangerous. He is not psychotic, his condition is untreatable, and therefore he is fit for ordinary punishment. That is according to the psychiatric evaluation. In court, we see the narcissist perform. Several times he makes third-person references to himself: "Peter talks a lot." The morbidly self-absorbed individual has split himself into two parts. There is the actual Peter Madsen. He is the one from a broken home, who never finished the education as an engineer, had difficulties forming regular, stable relationships, has a big debt and also has made enemies out of many in the small Danish rocket scene. And then there is the Peter Madsen that Peter Madsen dreams of being: Rocket-Madsen. The self-made inventor. The genius.” Peter Madsen shows no signs of remorse and compassion The article in Information contains other details that I haven't seen mentioned in other media. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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