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26th September 2019, 12:31 PM | #41 |
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26th September 2019, 12:32 PM | #42 |
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Man, Drew saying that made me realize how awesome my mom was. I never got shot once for not picking up my clothes.
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Final update since the trial won't continue until tomorrow. This is per the link I've cited a few times, so I'm not taking any credit:
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How can one forget the lighting if she claimed the apartment was dark? I have a 50 inch tv and when it is on I do not need to put on the living rooms lights to see furniture and equipment in the room.
In fact, the position of the 50 inch tv in Botham's living room, when on, would give very good lighting to see the back wall and lay out of the furniture when standing at the front door. Amber Guyger should have immediately recognised that Botham's living room was not hers especially if she had time to talk to him and observe his movement. It would appear to me that Amber Guyger would be lying if she claimed the room was dark now we know the 50 inch tv was on. |
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The bodycam video shows that when you are going into the apartment the door handle is on the right. The door opens to the left. Inside, on the right is a wall. It appears the light switch in on that wall immediately inside the door at about the level of the door handle.
I find it odd that she did not turn on the light. She had her vest in her right hand. She presumably put her key in the lock with her right hand. The door began to swing open. She left the keys in the lock. If the door is open, a person would think that something is wrong. Maybe there is someone in the apartment. I would think the natural reaction would be to push the door open with the left arm while turning on the lights with the right. You want to see what is going on when you open that door. |
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I do feel sorry for her. Most of us don't start out the day thinking they would like to kill someone. However, I feel more sorry for the guy she shot.
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27th September 2019, 07:09 AM | #61 |
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So they recovered some of Amber Guyger's deleted medias posts.
Some gems. A meme picture that read "I wear all black to remind you not to mess with me since I'm already dressed for your funeral." A meme of a Minion with the caption "No one ever thanks me having the patience to not kill them." A stock photo of a Navy SEAL with the caption "Stay Low, Go Fast. Kill First, Die Last. One Shot, One Kill. No Luck, All Skill." A "Blue Lives Matter" themed meme with the caption "If I have to explain sometimes there's justice and sometimes there's just us, you wouldn't understand." None of those have aged well. |
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27th September 2019, 07:23 AM | #62 |
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27th September 2019, 07:26 AM | #63 |
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Either way is an admission of guilt. If was coal miners lunchbox at midnight level of pitch black in the apartment she couldn't identify the target, which is a prerequisite for shooting someone in every possible situation.
If there was enough light for her to identify the target, then all the rest of her excuses go out the window. Again this is all a red herring, a hair being split where she's still guilty on either side of it introduced only as a stalling and distraction tactic. |
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I hope she is found guilty. Well, because she is. It is annoying to watch her do her soft-spoken, innocent act in the trial I am watching.. She murdered a man, it is that simple.
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27th September 2019, 08:25 AM | #67 |
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She's on the stand now.
"Let me see your hands! Let me see your hands!" was her verbal command to him. His response was to walk towards her and say "Hey! Hey!" |
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I think it's possible to have some small degree of sympathy for her and still think she's guilty as **** and needs to be locked away. Same idea behind that one cop giving her a hug at the scene. I don't know what he was thinking but if a friend or acquaintance of mine who wasn't irredeemably evil made a huge mistake that cost someone their life I think I'd probably try to extend some small comfort to them as they got ready to have their own life (deservedly) ruined. To be perfectly clear : what she did in this case was utterly inexcusable, she needs to serve time in jail, and she should never be permitted to own a firearm again given her colossal error in judgement. And of course the lion's share of concern is over the innocent victim who did nothing wrong and was shot dead in his own home. But most people aren't puppy-kickingly evil through and through, so for me at least it's possible to have some sympathy that she ruined her life. It'd be far easier if all criminals were nothing more than the sum total of their criminality. Life isn't always quite so tidy. edit to add : the chest thumping posts of hers on social media of course diminish that sympathy. So maybe the above is meant more in a generalized way and not quite as much specific to her. |
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TIL 'hey hey' is a southwestern colloquialism for 'get your crazy ass out of here bitch!'
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As I understand it, the first cops responding thought it was a typical "officer-involved" shooting. They would instinctively take the side of the fellow officer. The scandal is that after the facts were known, the cops dragged their feet as much as they thought they could get away with.
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on direct Guyger talked about how quickly the shooting happened. she also said Botham was moving around. I think she even said pacing. how much could he have been moving given how quickly it happened?
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The prosecutor is ripping her apart. SHe is not holding up well in the face of some pretty intense questioning.
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27th September 2019, 09:19 AM | #78 |
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She insists that he was upright when she shot him.
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