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Old 11th April 2020, 03:33 AM   #1
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latest research clarifies Corona-virus caused by the vortex of the "accidental" ...

latest research clarifies Corona-virus caused by the vortex of the "accidental" sinking of USS John S. McCain, the applause of Chinese people (and they did it on camera for the world to enjoy!) and the disappointing dance of Queen Elizabeth!

// __ Five sailors injured, 10 missing after U.S. Navy destroyer collides with a merchant ship

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3fa_story.html
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// __ Collision of USS John S. McCain is met with 'applause' in China, according to state media

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/21/uss-...ate-media.html
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// __ To Avoid Future Collisions, U.S. Navy Ships Will Advertise Their Locations in High-Traffic Areas The effort should help cut the risk of collisions at sea, but only addresses half the problem.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...traffic-areas/
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// __ Chinese fighter jets have "once again" engaged in "unsafe and unprofessional" behavior around a US Navy plane flying over the contested South China Sea, ABC News reports.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinese-fi...170151362.html
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So far I have been taking all the CV frenzy with a whole bag of salt.

I have heard that CV is kind of related to the SAR-1 family of virus that (seems to have!) mutated from no one really knows where as original genomic ecosystem to bats then onto pangolins and then onto humans . . . in the Wuhan animal market and that the pink lion of Central Park managed to get infected with the CV as its way to commit suicide because it was missing his friend Harambe . . .

I wonder at which point you will hear that they "discovered" that CV was caused by the last fart of Marilyn Monroe as King Kong grabbed her on the top of the empire state building which kept floating in what remains of the ozone layer to protect it until now when its molecules descended as CV droplets on the Wuhan animal market. Thank you, Marilyn. It is nice to hear that some gringos care about our environment/Nature, not just their TV sets.

Here is the thing, if viri would mutate and jump from a genome to another just like that we would have all died from mutations from measles or any other host of viri. In fact, most probably humans would not have been, evolution, as we know it, could not have happened. I find suspicious that you don't hear anyone talking about the chirality of that artistic looking virus and its functional biological and chemical components. How come they have made so many "simulations" to describe how it will spread but, AFAIK, none to investigate how did it happen, where did it come from to begin with.

I have heard CV peculiarly uses for the information interchange supporting its mutation phonemes from Putonghua, Iranian and Italian, which explains some aspects relating to its spread, but the most fundamental questions are still unanswered and, scientifically speaking, we are not living in the age of the bubonic plague, when they accused the Jews of poisoning the wells, would "clearly see" astrological explanations for the black death. We live in an era in which "a kid in a garage" can genetically "produce" a new multicellular organism out of parts from other living organism.

I would easily understand when politicians wonder about "sonic attacks" certainly created by Vladimir Putin (how can you prove that? Well, they attacked U.S. diplomats in Havana, you see?, right there is the proof!) and Duterte says that "God was telling him to stop cursing USG":

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/w...rse-words.html

and he seems to have taken "God's advice" seriously, he stopped!

But have scientists started to talk/be like politicians?!? Galileo must be revolting in his grave!

Are you also old enough to remember that idiotic prime minister (from New Zealand I think he was) who was viscerally making fun of his own people when they pointed out to him that New Zealand was a five eye (or ******* was it?) country. He even promised to renounce if any of it was true? Well, the guy at the very least seemed to have some sense of honor. He did renounce.

// __ How did coronavirus start and where did it come from? Was it really Wuhan's animal market?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-animal-market
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You see! There you have it! CV hopping from animal to animal again, it also infected the lion of Central Park Zoo and in its latest mutation can spread even through Quantum entanglement, so the 2m Abstand rule will not save you!

Here is a thing that every scientist knows: Nature has absolutely nothing to hide! (tm). When you notice something which articulation of its understanding and/or doubts are not plain clear from the start (especially when they are well-known natural phenomena), then you know right away it is not really about "mother Nature". If anything (not bats, pangolins, humans, which are all mammals), when you notice such things they are most probably related to the Linnaeus' taxa of fish.

As it has happened with all previous viri which have become a public health threat, scientist know that first they have to "own it", trace and find its origins and then reproduce it artificially as a way to falsify their own theories before they start to work on a vaccine. Why is there a blind spot when it comes to finding the origins of CV in this genetic engineering era in which you would expect absolutely everything about it to be well known?

Hume was amazed at how easily structures of control people mess with "We the people". Even on supposedly question-authority media outlets such as theIntercept.com they were saying that those "sonic attacks" were cause by the common Caribbean cricket and they have kept saying that Kennedy was killed by a Castro plot!:

// __ Beyond BuzzFeed: The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the Trump-Russia Story

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/...nts=1#comments
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// __ NSA Concealed Records on JFK Assassination for Decades

https://theintercept.com/2017/10/25/...nts=1#comments
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The last time I received anything USG could have a handle on was a box of books from the U.S. Even though I was very careful it repeatedly made my eyes swell and itch badly.

The U.S. has had also a long history of biological attacks on people (against Cuba, India and Russia , ... (and hey! I don't give a ***** about Castro communism, or politicians in general, but to me abusing people like that is wrong. Period! even if "'God' is telling you to do such things for the greater good" (tm))) The Castro government would even share samples of those mosquitos that were being used as infection vectors and even U.S. based scientists admitted that those were genetic knock offs. My scientist and medical friends (who, BTW, also didn't give a ***** about the government) would tell me that it was all "very, very strange", that if such things would happen so easily and frequently in place, from a biological point of view, relatively isolated and with a dictatorial government that took public health so seriously, e.g., Haitian people would not even manage to exist.

http://www.afrocubaweb.com/biowar.htm

Not only through the protests of the Cuban government, but some scholars/writers have revealed and written about various programs to "biologically weaken Cuban people" to a point that "they would not be able to fight back". The smart rear ends they are, USG vaccinated all Cuban nationals working at the Naval Base in Gitmo with a vaccine against the same virus they were about to spread, which, of course, the "Cuban intelligence" noticed.

Those "very, very strange" public health incidents have been happening in Cuba since the early 70! In one of those books they have related how USG infected a Cuban cargo ship with sugar bound to Russia and Kennedy had to personally stopped their operation. No wonder, he got killed by the Cuban government! He didn't seem to like that song from the 60's "sugar; honey, honey, ..."

What did USG have to say to the various, scientifically backed accusations at the UN, the WHO and various other public health institutions?, their standard "we don't discuss allegations".

So here is a theory: CV was created by the vortex of the "accidental" sinking USS John S. McCain, the applause of Chinese people and the crappy dance of Queen Elizabeth when she joined the "British Royal Navy" as they dressed in white to collectively dance la Makarena:

// __ Britain's Empty South China Sea Gesture

https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/brit...a-sea-gesture/
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// __ Exclusive - British Navy warship sails near South China Sea islands, angering Beijing ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive...001513209.html
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Now, the crucial aspect of that sentence is reduced to the adjective "near" and the British seem to have their own sense of humor which they didn't forget to include in their action. Wake me up if you can once the British dare to make their move more substantive.

// __ What's behind Beijing's drive to control the South China Sea?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ina-sea-hainan
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// __ China Doesn't Care About What Some Dutch Court Thinks about the South China Sea And veiled threats from the U.S. Secretary of Defense clearly don't scare it, either.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/08...uth-china-sea/
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Now, don't the Chinese know well, "they are doing something they shouldn't have been doing" (tm by Trump
all rights reserved)?

When I heard that the British had finally decided to go back to subjugate China into another century of shame, I was like: "great! It was about time". The next you heard is that all they did after going all the way there was collectively danced la macarena and as a way to recall the "or die while trying" of those "conquer the world! long live the queen!" stanzas, the(ir) queen joined them. Some people who watched her dance expected a good K-pop like performance. They were crassly disappointed! They thought she had developed some sense of rhythm after waiving at the country for more then 6 decades, no?

// __ the Onion: Queen Will Leave Behind Long Legacy Of Waving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5pkDB7zEeo
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What I would like to hear is if you could carry CV in a laser beam as they do with smoke rings. Only that would explain a lot.

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Old 11th April 2020, 03:44 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post


Galileo must be revolting in his grave!
Quite. After 500 years, he can't be a pretty sight.

That, by the way, was the only part of your post that I agreed with.
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Old 11th April 2020, 04:38 PM   #3
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... SAR-1 family of virus that (seems to have!) mutated AND MIGRATED from no one really knows where as original genomic ecosystem ONTO to bats

Kennedy had to personally STOP their operation

as a way to recall the "or die while trying" PART of
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Old 11th April 2020, 09:57 PM   #4
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Well gosh darn this calls for the incoherency vaccine!

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Old 11th April 2020, 11:29 PM   #5
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Having listened all the way through the OP, of which I understood almost nothing!, I have to say I admire the effort it must have taken to write it. I think it is probably more useful than useless to realise how much conspiracy stuff has probably been around all along but only in more recent times has it become available worldwide.
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Old 12th April 2020, 04:11 AM   #6
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for the information interchange supporting its mutationS

out of parts from other living organismS.

he seems to have taken "God's advice" seriously. He stopped!

so easily and frequently in A place, from a biological point of view, relatively isolated

scientistS know that first they have to "own it"

she MUST HAVE developed some sense of rhythm
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> how USG infected a Cuban cargo ship with sugar bound to Russia and Kennedy had to personally stop their operation.

That ship had some technical problem which might have complicated crossing the Atlantic Ocean, they needed some special tool to fix the problem, so they asked for permission to dock in a harbor in PR ...

> smoke rings

I was referring to a way they might have found to use laser or maser (microwaves) or any other carrier for a virus/infectious macromolecules, which will bring us to a new age (isn't techno **** great!?!). Of course, they don't really need to do that. They could have simply spread the disease in a run-of-the-mill way, by infecting people, or any other biologically active vector.

1) CV Structure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus
Structure
Coronaviruses are large pleomorphic spherical particles with bulbous surface projections.[13] The average diameter of the virus particles is around 120 nm (.12 μm). The diameter of the envelope is ~80 nm (.08 μm) and the spikes are ~20 nm (.02 μm) long. The envelope of the virus in electron micrographs appears as a distinct pair of electron dense shells.[14][15]

2) a back of the envelope calculation based on 2m Abstand rule and/or how long CV can maintain itself outside of a biological host, will show you how long that virus can travel if somehow wrapped in a carrier wave

3) USG has been very successful at using technology "from the air", "far away" ... as "'God' would do". It all looks so much more like "Star wars", what "good Christians" would do? They have successfully killed thousands of people (or, wait, sorry! USG doesn't kill people, they "freedom love" them with technology). Obama was proud of his double tapping "freedom loving", even though he was told many times, by not exactly good Christians that actual terrorists knew better than getting anywhere close to the target of a previous attack ...

4) I would admit USG has been one the most (if not -the most-) successful government at manipulating and lying to people. Just one simple question, what the preposterous eff that USG care about "freedom", "democracy", ... or any of that great stuff?

That CV is so versatile! It has turned the language of my browser to Dutch and any link I click on redirects my browser to a porno site! Heck! It might even stop Nordstream2, China's growth and bend China into submission, as well!
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Having listened all the way through the OP, of which I understood almost nothing!, I have to say I admire the effort it must have taken to write it. I think it is probably more useful than useless to realise how much conspiracy stuff has probably been around all along but only in more recent times has it become available worldwide.
Conspiracy theories have been around just about forever. The whole JFK thing started way before anybody was even thinking about anything like the internet. They used to be spread by books, word of mouth, or sometimes mimeographed (or later Xeroxed) pamphlets. The internet certainly sped up the process of of spreading them and exposed a lot more peope to them. It used to be that you pretty much had to seek out conspriacy theory literature. Now it's hard to avoid. Many of the arguments conspiracy theorists make can be quite convincing to people not skilled in critical thinking.
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Old 12th April 2020, 12:04 PM   #8
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"critical thinkers" ...

Who are those folks? People who voted for Obama? People who read the NY Times? or pay any attention to the "critical thinking" U.S. media?, "skeptical" people who for whatever reason come to this place?

If not, could you introduce me to one of them who should be a (mostly) conventional female, doesn't smoke and has some social justice spine? I love those! I don't watch TV, don't even use/carry a cell phone (or very sparingly as emergency), ... probably we will be a match in heaven or hell or whatever!

Anyone could see foremost that all I am saying is falsifiable, which apparently is what bothers "critical thinkers". Well, I hope they have a bit of a sense of humor spared to sort out my sarcasm and see that even my sarcasm is meaningful.

Wait, I get it! "critical thinkers" are those bots paid to flood the Internet with "responsible" adjectives, short comments and exclusive categories instead of establishing a line of questioning/reasoning. Check out my previous posts!

Just to stir some of my points "critical thinker". This is what I am talking about:

"Aren't the Chinese doing something they shouldn't?" (tm) Trump

How come "'the' 'brave' ..." are so careful or as they critically thinking say, "responsible" ... when it comes to a force who could and will defend themselves on an equal basis? How funny seeing the U.S. and British govs talking about "the rule of law". They stopped when they Chinese let them know, not exactly verbally, their take of "the rule of law"

Doesn't USG have a long history of using unsuspecting people as guinea pigs? crassly inhumanely abusing people for R&D? Something they have kept doing to this very day? If Vladimir Putin had done only (1/100) of what USG has done we would have never heard the end of it.

Hasn't USG been messing with people, whole countries to the point of 8x-ing the genocidal ratio of Nazi Germany during WWII? Here is the Math for you "critical thinker":

https://theintercept.com/2015/04/17/...nts=1#comments

What do "critical thinkers" do when confronted with reality? They just fart adjectives and two sentence comments as a way to show how smart they are.
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Old 12th April 2020, 07:14 PM   #9
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... What do "critical thinkers" do when confronted with reality? ...
You will never know
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> You will never know

Great lord! As I said, CV is so versatile! It keeps making miracles!

Who would have suspected it?!? "critical thinkers" generating 4-word sentences?!?

Now, you are the descendants from Shakespeare here.

Should we help that "critical thinker" by including an exclamation mark as a way to, both, end the sentence and connote a bit more the silly veiled threat? OK, let it be a 5-word sentence. Amazing!
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“The UK’s actions will please Washington as the Trump administration has grumbled that U.S. allies have been remiss in upholding freedom of navigation in the South China Sea,” said Storey, of Singapore’s ISEAS Yusof Ishak Institute.
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Well, it doesn't seem to be only the(ir) Queen's crassly disappointing Makarena dancing, but the Trump administration, as well.

How come Trump didn't use my favorite stanza of his? Again, don't the Chinese know hell well "they are doing something they know they shouldn't?" (or however he said it?)

Please, USG don't drone me down, OK? I am just a humorous guy. Besides, aren't you gonna need those drones for your business with China? and/or Russia? Why wasting them on silly me?

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--1971 African swine fever is introduced. The Cubans claim that the container transporting the virus came from Fort Gullick, a US military base in the Panama Canal Zone. Those involved in this attack have since testified to their part. The entire pig population of Cuba had to be slaughtered.

--1981 A sudden outbreak of haemorrhagic dengue fever affects 350,000 people. 158 people, including children, die from the disease. The disease is later discovered to be exactly the same strain of the disease which caused an outbreak in New Guinea in 1924 but no others in the world except the Cuban case. The outbreak had three initial breeding grounds in Cienfuegos and Camagüey, all very close to international air corridors. Just prior to the outbreak it was discovered that the entire personnel at the Guantanamo naval base had been vaccinated against dengue. As a result there was not a single case of the disease in the base.

--1981 Haemorraghic conjunctivitis caused by the Enterovirus 70 strain spreads throughout the island. The Pan American Health Organisation is baffled because this strain had never been seen in the entire hemisphere before.

--1982 The US magazine Covert Action, August 6, 1982, suggests the dengue outbreak might have been a CIA plot.

--1984 Eduardo Arocena, a counter-revolutionary of Cuban origin and head of the Omega-7 terrorist organisation, stands trial in the US accused of the murder of Felix Garcia Rodriguez, a Cuban diplomat to the UN. Arocena confesses to having introduced 'germs' into Cuba as part of the US biological war against Cuba. He affirms that the dengue outbreak was introduced by terrorist groups into the island.

--1984 An outbreak of dysentery causes the death of 18 children in Guantánamo province. Investigators pin down the start of the outbreak to two workers who had participated in a festive activity inside the Guantánamo naval base. The disease was again of a type previously unknown in Cuba.

--1990 Black sigatoka, infects banana plantations throughout the island. Once again the disease had been hitherto unknown on the island. The disease appeared precisely as Cuba began to put plans into action to start intensive banana production.

--1991 Acariasis disease which affects bees is discovered, just as Cuban honey starts to be exported.

--1995 February 10. A camera case in the luggage of a visiting US scientist is found to contain four small test tubes of a biological substance. On examination it is discovered to be the citric tristeza virus.
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There is an excellent BBC series made for social consumption called: "the cell" ("chemistry of life", "hidden kingdom", ...) in which they show how they know so much about "the chemistry of life" that they can, in a lego-like fashion, take the DNA of two entirely unrelated multicellular organisms (one of those light beaming medusas from the aphotic depths of the ocean and the common mouse) and I will let you figure out what they saw in the mouse they Frankensteined. They also genetically engineered bacteria to poop diesel.

As I said, viri, even if parasitic by their very nature, undergo genetic mutations but if doesn't happen as they dance by hopping from a genomic ecosystem to the next as they have been describing in the media. Also, if that were so, since they are by far the largest kinds of biological entities there would be no life on Earth as we know it.

Saying that such a virus exists, mutates just like that from a genome to the next (also viri are kind of chemically simple) would be like saying that Anny got angry with her boyfriend, had sex with her dog and gave birth to a unicorn. Anyone that knows his/hers ABC about Biology would go like: "what the heck was that last thing you said?" Anny couldn't have possibly given birth to a unicorn, because the cogs of the DNA in the sperm of a dog and the egg of a human simply can't match to become one thing. This is what makes both different species and in the species in which there is a certain degree of match the offspring can't procreate because the cogs of their DNA is too flimsy.

Life depends on a finely neg entropic arrangement to be able to happen and that applies to viri as well.
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A phylogenetic analysis of those samples showed they were "highly related with at most seven mutations relative to a common ancestor", implying that the first human infection occurred in November or December 2019.[69] As of 27 March 2020, 1,495 SARS-CoV-2 genomes sampled on six continents were publicly available.[70]

https://nextstrain.org/narratives/nc...rep/2020-01-30
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Notice that all they said is that the unicorn Anny gave birth to was born "in November or December 2019", but the question that every one who knows about such matters is wondering about is: how on earth did/could Anny get pregnant to begin with?

Also, given the degree of control they have over everyone of us nowadays they could have pinpointed that very person, who most probably was and is asymptomatic.
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What the hell are you on about?
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What the hell are you on about?
...a demonstration of a disrupted stream of consciousness from a person dreaming...about something.
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Having listened all the way through the OP, of which I understood almost nothing!, I have to say I admire the effort it must have taken to write it. I think it is probably more useful than useless to realise how much conspiracy stuff has probably been around all along but only in more recent times has it become available worldwide.

Not only that, but copy-pasting has kind of ruined it. Before word-processing and the internet, a conspiracy theory would go from person to person, changing a little each time, with bits being added and other bits left out, which would sometimes contribute to turning the whole thing into an actual story with a coherent plot.
Nowadays, with copy-pasting, you get ... this!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe..._coronavirus_2
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A phylogenetic analysis of those samples showed they were "highly related with at most seven mutations relative to a common ancestor", implying that the first human infection occurred in November or December 2019.[69] As of 27 March 2020, 1,495 SARS-CoV-2 genomes sampled on six continents were publicly available.[70]

https://nextstrain.org/narratives/nc...rep/2020-01-30
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Notice that all they said is that the unicorn Anny gave birth to was born "in November or December 2019", but the question that every one who knows about such matters is wondering about is: how on earth did/could Anny get pregnant to begin with?

Also, given the degree of control they have over everyone of us nowadays they could have pinpointed that very person, who most probably was and is asymptomatic.
Infectious diseases have jumped from animals to humans since probably the dawn of mankind. Just cause we have advanced technology now doesn't mean it stopped.
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Old 13th April 2020, 10:30 AM   #18
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> Infectious diseases have jumped from animals to humans since probably the dawn of mankind

Is this what I was talking about?

> Just cause we have advanced technology now doesn't mean it stopped.

Again, is this what I was talking about?
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Old 13th April 2020, 11:03 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
Is this what I was talking about?

Again, is this what I was talking about?

No one knows.
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> No one knows.

so the minds of "international skeptics" and "critical thinkers" are all connected, mapped to one another?

Now, isn't that something!
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I don't know, dude. But Vortex of the Accidental is definitely a cool band name.
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
> No one knows.

so the minds of "international skeptics" and "critical thinkers" are all connected, mapped to one another?

Now, isn't that something!
Nope. What you write is incoherent. I have no idea what idea, if any, you are attempting to express.
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Originally Posted by abaddon View Post
Nope. What you write is incoherent. I have no idea what idea, if any, you are attempting to express.
I would have reported the whole screed as being off-topic.



But that would require determining what the thread topic is . . .
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As I said, viri, even if parasitic by their very nature, undergo genetic mutations but if doesn't happen as they dance by hopping from a genomic ecosystem to the next as they have been describing in the media.

The plural of virus is viruses. While virus is, originally, a Latin word, it had no plural form. Thus, the regular rules of English apply, just add an "es". In any case, the Latin plural of virus, which does not exist, would be virii, not viri.


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I don't know, dude. But Vortex of the Accidental is definitely a cool band name.

No, it would be the name of a Douglas Adams book: Dirk Gently and the Vortex of the Accidental.
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Every morning, I start my day with a visit to the GH forum and do my best to counter the woo claims … … and then I come here, which is like breaking out into freedom or something! Thank you for that post and the it evoked!
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No, it would be the name of a Douglas Adams book: Dirk Gently and the Vortex of the Accidental.
I was thinking of taking it for my memoir.
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I figured the Vortex of the Accidental must be near the Event Horizon of the Formless.
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> The plural of virus is viruses ...

probably because Spanish (around 75% Latin) is one of my Ls "viruses" sounds so out it all ugly that I can't say it (worst yet sounds "corpuses" when they mean "corpora"). "viri" to me sounds like a good compromise between Latin and English
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Gringos are like that, you tell them that USG (their government) has 8Xed the genocidal ratio of Nazi Germany during WWII (something they could prove to themselves with just a little primary school Math) and not only that, their government "'the' 'brave' ..." on a moral ground are not doing any better than Nazis, who actually fought head on people/forces who could and did defend themselves on an equal basis, and what they say to you?:

* "'no one' 'understands' what you are saying"

* "you should day 'tomato' instead of 'tomatoe'"

* "what you are saying is off topic"

* "you are just copying and pasting from other pages/links"

* "vortex is the name of a band/song" (those kinds of messages are invariably from perps)

* "there is a general pattern to 'conspiracy theories'" ...

about "conspiracy theories" and their "general pattern" I would tell you that the most "general" of all "patterns" is -human stupidity-. As they say in the Bronx: "people is stupid because people is stupid"; one of the richest and most succinct one liners I have ever heard. You may think that what makes people "people" is the political ideologies they spouse, or that they have of don't have money, their countries of origin, their skin colors or whatever. One of the most amazing persons I have ever found on the Internet is a lady that goes es "Benito Mussolini" on the Intercept, she said that "stupidity exists because it offers a survival advantage" LOL

Check out my other posts, they turned out to be great gringo Anthropologies. I remember that other "skeptical" person I was clarifying that all those Stalin era gulags that people talk about in the U.S. is just some of the many **ing illusions they like to toy their minds with. What the guy did was getting upset with me.

People deemed "conspiratorial" all those individuals talking about what Snowden later revealed and saying that every machine with Windows OS installed was basically an NSA terminal, but the most interesting thing is that when people realized it was all true, that their government was monitoring all aspects relating to their lives to an extent that the stasi and the KGB would have never had imagined in their wildest dreams, they all went like: "Oh, well ..."

Snowden spoke about that theme in the interview that he had with Larry Lessig and Brigitta Jónsdóttir in Moscow (how "ironic" that the place for them to meet safely was Moscow, right?)

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Nope. What you write is incoherent. I have no idea what idea, if any, you are attempting to express.
The truly frightening thing about this is that for our colleague, the words make perfect sense.
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
> The plural of virus is viruses ...

probably because Spanish (around 75% Latin) is one of my Ls "viruses" sounds so out it all ugly that I can't say it (worst yet sounds "corpuses" when they mean "corpora"). "viri" to me sounds like a good compromise between Latin and English
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Gringos are like that, you tell them that USG (their government) has 8Xed the genocidal ratio of Nazi Germany during WWII (something they could prove to themselves with just a little primary school Math) and not only that, their government "'the' 'brave' ..." on a moral ground are not doing any better than Nazis, who actually fought head on people/forces who could and did defend themselves on an equal basis, and what they say to you?:


about "conspiracy theories" and their "general pattern" I would tell you that the most "general" of all "patterns" is -human stupidity-. As they say in the Bronx: "people is stupid because people is stupid"; one of the richest and most succinct one liners I have ever heard. You may think that what makes people "people" is the political ideologies they spouse, or that they have of don't have money, their countries of origin, their skin colors or whatever. One of the most amazing persons I have ever found on the Internet is a lady that goes es "Benito Mussolini" on the Intercept, she said that "stupidity exists because it offers a survival advantage" LOL

Check out my other posts, they turned out to be great gringo Anthropologies. I remember that other "skeptical" person I was clarifying that all those Stalin era gulags that people talk about in the U.S. is just some of the many **ing illusions they like to toy their minds with. What the guy did was getting upset with me.

People deemed "conspiratorial" all those individuals talking about what Snowden later revealed and saying that every machine with Windows OS installed was basically an NSA terminal, but the most interesting thing is that when people realized it was all true, that their government was monitoring all aspects relating to their lives to an extent that the stasi and the KGB would have never had imagined in their wildest dreams, they all went like: "Oh, well ..."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxtN0xxzfsw

Have you tried going on stage with this and take over as "The World’s Foremost Authority".
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... when GRINGOS realized it was all true, that their government was monitoring all aspects relating to their lives ...

* Nope. What you write is incoherent. I have no idea what idea, if any, you are attempting to express.

* The truly frightening thing about this is that for our colleague, the words make perfect sense.

* English is not your mother tongue

* Have you tried going on stage with this and take over as "The World’s Foremost Authority".

that one is another of the tell tale signs of how perps react: "you just have a big ego and say such things to call attention to yourself" ...

but I have to admit that this time around they have disappointed me. In this post they haven't yet told me, that: "I am mentally ill"
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one peculiarly interesting character trait of gringos relating to their "good Christian" complexes, is that they are constantly talking about all kinds of "un-American" ***** about "un-American" people, some true, most fabricated; all to fit their own functional illusions of greatness; but when you point to them the most minimal thing they go berserk: "Great Lord! How crazily 'un-American' and unjust is that, when all we are doing is doing the Universe the favor of being ourselves!"

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All very interesting, for very small values of "interesting".

Umm, but first, senora, try learning to use the QUOTE button? It's free to use, at no cost. What's more, it's gratis.
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Originally Posted by rlopez2 View Post
... when GRINGOS realized it was all true, that their government was monitoring all aspects relating to their lives ...

...
Are you a Gringos? What are you talking about? Are they watching you?

Where are these Gringos, and what is their government? Are they monitoring your incoherent rambling nonsense posts?
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<incoherent drivel snipped>
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No.

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... SAR-1 family of virus that (seems to have!) mutated AND MIGRATED from no one really knows where as original genomic ecosystem ONTO to bats
Also no.
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